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Never to early to talk the 2010 NFL Draft


First off, I'm not throwing in the towel on this season yet by any means. I think we can get it together and still make a run at a playoff spot. We beat Philly and beat Dallas again, and we are in.

I always start formulating my wish list for the Giants in the draft early. After the Plax issue last year and looking at where we were in the draft order, I had Hakeem Nicks at the top of my wish list early. This year, I don't know where we will finish yet. This season has been much of a roller coaster, but right now I want Rolando Mclain, junior middle linebacker for Alabama. AP is getting old and I think bringing in a MLB with the talent of Mclain would be huge. Right now our LBs are a little thin in terms of depth. Mclain is athletic and the quarterback of the Alabama D. He always knows the plays the offense is about the run so you know he gets his studying and film time in. If he isn't available I think we go to another position. I don't think the Giants want a questionable character guy like Brandon Spikes out of Florida.

2nd on the wish list would be Gereld McCoy junior DT from Oklahoma. If he is off the board (which I hope he is cause the Giants have a late pick), being a Syracuse Alumni, I gotta roll with DT Author Jones, who I know is a beast in the middle because I watch him every Saturday.

I doubt we'd go for a WR since we drafted 2 last year. We'll probably let our young guys develop before bringing someone else in. Bottom line is I think we will go heavy on Defense this year.

What do you guys think? Anyone on your wish list?

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angerer, lb from iowa

not the fastest lb, but tough as nails and an excellent prospect going forward. he wouldnt have to start day 1 if we can squeeze another year out of AP. i dont think hes a first round talent though, so i expect the giants to go corner or safety in the 1st round.

by GiantsReignSupreme on Nov 10, 2009 10:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yea I thought about a safety…but do we really need one in the first round? Kenny Phillips hopefully will come back next year good as new. We could just add depth with a good prospect.

by JRSu1 on Nov 10, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know college players

but I’d imagine the Giants top 3 priorities will be Linebackers, Secondary, and Offensive Line. I’d hope, unless there is some internal discovery this year, that with their 1st-round pick they take whomever the strongest non-lineman defensive player is. Then again, I know jack about the draft.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 10, 2009 10:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would say that

Defense has to be the area to address first. Obviously Secondary comes to mind first and then LB. I hope that Goff will be ready to go for next year or hopefully at the end of this season, he needs to get some quality snaps and prove that he deserves a roster spot.

I agree with the OP that the DT needs to be addressed not because we are lacking talent but depth and it is showing its ugly head right now. The idea is to keep those guys so fresh and ready to roll that the offense can keep up with them. I actually think we are beging to see that with Canty getting back and Rocky starting to make an impact.

by GiantRB27 on Nov 10, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

People forget

that without canty, we had three guys, two of whom came back from major surgery (cofield and robbins)

With canty back, we were able to stop the run. It may just be that SD’s running game sucks (according to their fans that I’ve talked to), but its a step in the right direction.

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 10, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Very true

and Canty also is so tall that he can bat down balls at the line, similar to what he did when he was with the boys against us…. I am def looking for him to get in a groove and help out the D line, which I think he started to do and we all say a little bit of that against the Chargers…

by GiantRB27 on Nov 11, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

McClain is a top 15..possible top 10 pick...

if he comes out, so that’s hopefully out.

McCoy is a possible top 3 !! pick…so considering the Giants record..that’s out.

Brandon Spikes is a possibility, tho will he drop like Maualuga?

I like Arthur Jones, but when (smart) teams realize how truly good he is..he’s probably a top 15 pick too.

I think its Spikes right now. Pat Angerer is a nice idea, for a middle round (say…5th round) pick.

I think secondary needs to be addressed. I’d love to Taylor Mays to fall..I can’t see how, so like McClain that’s out.

Nate Allen (South Florida), Morgan Burnett (Safety from Georgia Tech) would be some nice big, fast safeties to even just throw in the rotation with Johnson and hopefully KP returning.

Sad to say, but the Giants could use a DT or even a DE. John Pierre Paul (South Florida) is a Jevon Kearse (young Jevon..) clone, that would be nice.

For middle round picks, Corey Wooten is a Justin Tuck like story..tons of talent but more than a few injuries in college. He’s fast with a big wingspan, like Tuck and uh..he’s about 6"7 270lbs too.

Lots of nice prospects, especially on the defenisive side of the ball.

Kinda sad to think how much (right now…..) the Giants need when merely a few weeks ago I was thinking about the draft and had not a clue what exactly the Giants need.

Even offensive line seems like a need right now.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 10, 2009 11:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Taylor Mays could fall. If Eric Weddle comes out I think he might be the top Safety.

You are right about the other guys though I mentioned…all best at their position. All top 10-15 picks possibly. But I don’t think every team is looking defense either.

by JRSu1 on Nov 10, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's cliche' but...

Even if team are not looking at defense, it’s how these players are graded by each team and the best available comes into play. As of now, the Giants are around 20, and perhaps 25-28 if they can figure this season out and win. But i don’t foresee Berry, Mays, McClain or McCoy falling this far. Spikes perhaps? Tough call if his character is an issue. If the eye gouging is his only blemish, teams may write that off as being just a football thing?!

by Hootman on Nov 10, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

I hope that’s who he means…I mean Eric Weddle on the Chargers is not all bad, but….

Well, don’t count out trades or FA.

The Eagles I have no idea how but they STOLE a very good LB in Will Witherspoon (think I got the first name and spelling right…)

And Hoot..I do think Spikes will fall into the Giants laps. The only question is there someone better on the board..or is there a good reason for him falling (like Maualuga…but I like Hakeem Nicks >> Maualuga even tho Rey Rey is a good player…)

I have seen a few mocks where Mays fall tho. Why? not sure.

Only question? Is he a safety? Or do we make the move to MLB or any LB cuz of his size (I’d LOOOVE to have a guy who runs a 4.4 as our MLB…)

We’ve seen the “perfect fit” for the Giants fall into their laps the past 2 drafts, KP and Nicks seem to be the best players at their position (unfortunate for KP tho..) so who knows.

The best fit in the entire draft is Ndamukong Suh….but well….he may be teh #1. I’d LOVE to have a monster like rushing the passer for the Giants in the middle of their D-Line…..

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 10, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

names

honestly, since I don’t watch the college game I see these names and make value judgements like… last year I was thinking: “I hope we don’t get Laurinaitis. There is never going to be a great NFL player with that name.” I see named like dukamong Suh or Spikes and I’m like THAT is an NFL presence…

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 10, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

names

Someone pointed out to me the other day about how Magic Johnson got AIDS from getting with a lot of women on the road:
“What did you expect? His name was MAGIC JOHNSON "

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 10, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I could see Mays moving to LB. Yea 4.4 at Linebacker is a sideline to sideline guy that racks up taclkes. He’s big enough for it too.

by JRSu1 on Nov 10, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

...and of course

Arthur Jones hurts a peck and is out the rest of the season.

Hopefully it drops him to the Giants pick…wherever it is….

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 10, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not an overall weakness, but the OL should be a strong consideration

This unit has played for two straight years and as we take it for granted, the years do seem to pass us by too. This year though, there seems to be an out of the ordinary happening going on. They don’t seem to be playing like were used to! This unit has dodged the god forbidden injury bug, so the mileage will accumulate. So out of curiousity, with the mileage creeping up there, what about their ages?

Starters:
-LT David Diehl, 29
-LG Rich Seubert, 30
-C Shaun O’Hara, 32
-RG Chris Snee, 27
-RT Kareem McKenzie, 30

Reserves:
William Beatty, 24
Adam Koets, 25
Kevin Boothe, 26
Guy Whimper, 26

I would consider Beatty to be the best bet to make a career out of starting. The others, not so? It is surprising that 3/5ths are atleast 30+ and by this time next year, they’ll be another year older with Diehl joining them! I’m not saying we should draft an OL with our first pick, but an early pick with potential upside should be explored. An interior OL especially whether it’s a C, G or the ability to play all three would be ideal!

I really don’t know if these ages are a sign of transition from being solid to the stage of decay, but you have to safeguard yourself from this. Let me just say, look at the Redskins and the state their OL is in. That’s neglect!

by Hootman on Nov 10, 2009 2:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think its more injuries this season so far...

cuz I know McKenzie’s been hurt, so has Seubert..tho they’ve played through them.

Yea, these guys they’ve drafted in teh later rounds like Whimper and Koets would be scary if they had to start them.

Beatty seems like the potential is there.

We’ll see how they respond after the bye…cuz I feel there’s a lot of nagging stuff going on with them.

If they continue their play of recent weeks or …get worse..then there should be a few replacements or at least consider Diehl at LG and transition Beatty to LT. Maybe even a new RT?

I really hope taht they are just nursing injuries tho…I think these guys are all still too young to be replaced…..

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 10, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed about Beatty

I think he is still very raw obviously but has a great upside and we can really help him learn and be a extremely valuable back up who can hopefully play both Tackles and Guards spots if we happen to need it…..

Hopefully they can get healthy over the week off and get back to business against ATL….

by GiantRB27 on Nov 11, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like a top flight LT

combined with a move back to guard for Diehl. For a guy who’d be around for ten years, I’d consider a #1

by blue gonz on Nov 12, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Beatty could be

that guy as LT but I think DD is doing a good job at LT for right now. I like the O line the way it is now but I am thinking about the future for this draft.

by GiantRB27 on Nov 12, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would go for Sean Weatherspoon in the 1st round

He´s a LB at Missouri and extremely versatile. Could play either at OLB and MLB.

At the second round I would go at a safety or OL.

Yeah, we like NFL here in Brazil.

by GiantsBRFan on Nov 10, 2009 3:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I may have overshot having guys too high for us to pick…and like I said I’m hoping we have a later pick. But you also have to factor in offensive players and I know sometimes you could get a Mclain or Mays in the lower first round.

by JRSu1 on Nov 10, 2009 5:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't follow college football

but here’s where I think our needs are

1) LB
Boley shows what athletic linebackers will do for your team. We need someone to replace pierce eventually, and an upgrade on the other side would be great too

2) OL
The o-line hasn’t been as great as we expect it to. McKenzie’s probably near the end of his line, and we need more than 1 back up who could come into a game and not kill us

3) …
Honestly our team isn’t as bad as we all make it seem. With everyone healthy, this is one damn good team.
If KP can’t come back next year though, or still needs time, we definitely need another safety. We should also probably get one in the lower rounds for back ups.

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 10, 2009 8:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

your right on the better than we look thing...

There’s a lot of injuries…and can’t forget most teams have had their bye week already and the Giants just played 9 straight weeks

That said, I agree on the LB thing..I think MLB is best cuz it seems like they have something with Sintim and Boley’s gonna be around for a while. You can’t count out FA like they did with Pierce tho. I have no idea who is going to be out there tho.

Backup O-Line has been a concern too…hopefully they address it.

You gotta add safety in there too. Even if KP returns, we’ve seen what not having a backup (kinda like KP was in 2008…) can do to hurt you.

Kinda sad considering we thought it was such a strength going in, but I think a DLman or 2 could help.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

CB's are definitely a strength

With Webster (yeah he’s slumping now, but he’ll get better), TT, Bruce Johnson, and Ross when he get’s healthy, I feel confident about our CBs.

WHich makes you wonder, why was sheridan having safeties cover guys?

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 11, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mostly its over the top coverage that they get burned on...

not straight up man to man.

I mean its got a lot to do with the short zones they have C-Web playing…but yea I have no clue why they made CC cover so much of the field.

Ross is definitely gonna help. TT may be able to play some safety, who knows. Bruce seems like he can man up good, so they got something there.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also we have 2 guys on the practice squad just drafted

that are safeties. Obviously, they’re from lower rounds, and if we can get a top flight safety I wouldn’t be opposed to it, but It’s not as much a need a as top flight linebacker. As much as I like pierce, he won’t be playing forever.

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 12, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Will, i agree with point #3

But i think we have to be very careful with where we pick the S. Relying on KP’s 100% health is really an unknown at this point. When KP went down, so didn’t that position. CC wasn’t the answer, Rouse isn’t, we have two UDFA S’s on our practice with unknown potential and we just signed DJ Johnson (another UDFA) off Denvers PS.

I think it would be wiser to use a higher pick on someone with good-major upside potential than to try and find that diamond in the rough, or someone who grades to be just a ST’er to fringe starter. When KP went down, the talent level dropped considerably too!

by Hootman on Nov 11, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Eagles and Cowboys..

signed Sean Jones and Gerald Sesabaugh (I think I Spelled correct ?), and both are playing well (anything’s better than CC Brown anyway).

That’s the type of player I hope the Giants sign. Drafted a safety would be nice, but a vet like these 2, that usually is available in FA, would be nice.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree there

It just so happens that the draft is in between FA and June whatever for veteran cuts, where some serviceable bargains can be had. Though, sometimes it’s not so much the quantity, but the quality that is let go?! So for what happens early on in FA can dictate what you do in the draft to a degree. We signed CC, but brought in DB’s later or signed them undrafted!

I seriously thought a vet like CC was a good signing on paper, then look what happens! lol I just don’t want this to happen again!

by Hootman on Nov 11, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

very true...

tho, I’m sure there were plenty of Texans fans who laughed at it, he wasn’t really all that good for them either.

What he was for was to stop the run and maybe make a few big hits. He’s actually pretty good at that. Its the whole safety coverage thing that he’s horrible at.

From what I see there’s plenty of safeties in the draft if the Giants decide to go that route.

The Giants may be looking at some extra cap room too this offseason. I’m not sure they cut Pierce (I still think he’s a leader on the D and if they get another Boley type/Sintim develops, he can still be a good backer), but if they do, that’s a few mill.

I mean its just too early to call on FA types. I still wouldn’t mind if they found a safety who is fully capable of starting but if used as a rotational guy it would benefit. I wouldn’t mind overspending either cuz it has turned out to be a real important position, much more than they seem to have realized in the offseason.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Draft and FA

Reading the conditional language here – “If we can squeeze another year out of AP in the middle…” – just reminds me how blind so many of us are. If we had anybody else to play the middle AP SHOULDN’T BE PLAYING NOW! He was through last year and the last game against Philly sealed that deal. So, yes by all means draft a MLB who can step in on Day 1 or if not pray we find one in FA because if AP lines up as the starting MLB next season it means the Giants are not serious about getting better. And the comment about how Boley shows us what an athletic LB can bring to a defense – uh, excuse me, the last 30+ years of the NFL have proved that (and I’m sure I can go back further) but I’ll just start with the 70’s Steelers backers as my default… not to mention a certain, and recently arrested yet again, our very own greatest defensive player in history, Lawrence Taylor. Guys, it’s a sports blog – have the courage of your convictions and be able to back them up. As for what I’d like in the draft, a stud linebacker, preferably in the middle, and I’d love to see Boley, Simtin and this new guy lined up 3 across. And if not through the draft, then a stud MLB through FA. After that, a safety. And then OL. I’d like to see a monster LT come in through FA and replace Diehl who is showing signs of decline. And of course, a new HC and 2 new coordinators to use these players and return us to the top.

by nybaseballgiants on Nov 11, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is a tough one

AP has proven over and over that he is the QB of the D but it’s clear that his body cannot keep up with his brain. I love AP’s grit but I am tired of seeing an oposing RB or TE score and AP trailing about 4 yards in back of him. I think that he is going to make a great DC and that time may be sooner than later.

As for the coaching staff…I’m totally sick with BC. He’s got the toys but seems that they didn’t come with instructions. Same with KG. We’ve got studs at the skill positions, yet we are so preditable. I am dreading this offense in the winter months at the Meadowlands. I still like Terrible Tom as the HC. I hope that he can get this thing turned around but if he can’t, I have no problems with bringing in another coach with a little guts and imagination. Even with the injuries to this team, we should not be 5 and 4.

by njgiant on Nov 11, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Post-Plax end to last season

and the playoff disaster spoke volumes about Coughlin as a head coach. If ever there was a time for change and adaptation, it was the post-Plax world the Giants found themselves in. And… nothing. Leadership comes from the top; that’s why world-class athletes have coaches. And Coughlin failed. And this year? Please. This team may have players with playoff experience but as it stands now THIS IS NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM. I’m sure the players are as tired of TC’s “disapproving parent” face on the sidelines as I am. As many of us are. One more time – in a world where Cowher, Billick, Gruden, and Shanahan are available for next year WE WOULD NOT BE THINKING OF THE NEXT 5 YEARS AND BEYOND if the Giants do not act boldly and decisively at season’s end and bring in one of those names. Ha, watch, we get Charlie Weis.

by nybaseballgiants on Nov 11, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

An interesting thought

About our LB’s and the draft or FA. Just going off memory (FA’s), and a quick glance at historical drafts, the Giants haven’t really used the draft to produce quality LB’s. I’m speaking in terms of a quality starting LB. They’ve spent mid-round picks (2nd round included) on them, but either they were busts, or they were no more than fringe starters or ST’s! You have to go all the way back to ‘81 (LT) and ’84 (Banks) when the Giants last used a first round pick on a LB. Other than Jesse Armstead, Dhani Jones or Corey Miller, no other LB’s standout as having good careers via the draft. I may have missed some? Maybe Corey Widmer?

Now, with FA, theres a longer list of LB’s that have made it prior to coming to the Giants.
LaVarr Arrington
Carlton Bailey
Michael Barrow
Michael Boley
Michael Brooks
Danny Clark
Mike Croel
Carlos Emmons
Barrett Green
Kawika Mitchell
Antonio Pierce

I could be wrong, but it seems like the Giants will use FA’s to shore up their starters and will use the draft for backups/ST’s? I know it’s not from a lack of trying to develop players, but from where they were drafted, you really don’t expect them to. I know there are cases where players can develop into solid starters being drafted later, but as i scanned the last 10-15 drafts, most of your Pro Bowl caliber LB’s were taken first, early second rounds.

Now with our current LB’s, it’s apparent that Clark and AP’s days are numbered, Boley is a keeper, Sintim has upside, but it’s the rest of the unit that leaves a little to be desired. We need to get this group into something more solid!

by Hootman on Nov 12, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea your right...

I mean, your right on Sintim, hopefully he develops.

Kehl and Goff are seemingly just depth/ST guys. I thought they had more, but we gotta remember these guys are still young so they still could have something there.

I know some like it or hate it when we compare to 2007…but remember what happened with all those guys in that class being forced into starting/more prominent roles and now they are solid starters?

Michael Johnson, AB, Steve Smith, Boss. So, and while I don’t wanna see guys get hurt (…) say Clark and Pierce get hurt, then we gotta use Goff and Kehl more. Maybe they step up?

But yea, it seems like the Giants usually like to go out in FA and grab a LB.

I still think Arrington could’ve been a real good player. He was showing a lot before he went down with that season ender tha year.

Not sure the Giants cap situation. But maybe they really spring for a big name FA and get Karlos Dansby?

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 12, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not entirely a lost cause, but makes you wonder about

Goff and Kehl. Besides ST’s, you really don’t know what you have with these guy’s. They’re young so if given the opportunity, perhaps they can show something. Oddly enough, the other guys you mentioned (who were backups), we were fortunate to have them and the way they have come along. Like our LB’s then and now, perhaps it’s a bad luck curse of who we draft?

But speaking of FA’s. To bad this isn’t AP’s walk year and you mentioned Dansby, but i didn’t know Ruud from T.B. will be a FA next year. I found this site and has, i’m assuming an accurate list of 2010 FA’s!

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/fa/lb.html

These are the LB’s, but you can go to other positions too!

by Hootman on Nov 12, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

c'mon now...

you know ‘walk-year’ in football is basically irrelevant, they can cut AP if they want (and if he keeps declining/new DC…they probably will).

I’m not sure its curse of the LB who we draft, tho Kehl has been injured this yea (broken finger or hand I think), Goff missed all of last year (he’s essentially a rook), Sintim is just getting back now, and of course Wilkenson was one of those key youngins in teh SB run and also has been injury plagued.

I think it also has to do with the coaching staff and management being more comfortable with a veteran on the field (i.e. Danny Clark….).

I gotta say tho…the idea of Demeco Ryans or if the football gods really love the Giants, Kirk Morrison…that sounds good to me.

Sintim, Morrison, Boley?..damn.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 12, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I only meant AP's status as a cap hit, if they were to release him.

It wouldn’t hurt my feelings if they did, but probably AP’s and he’ll pull a Tiki and throw someone under the bus?! lol But, i can’t knock his mental value to the D as much as i can with his fading skills, it happens to all players!

Anyways, if we did sign any major MLB, it definitely would be an upgrade.

But as it is now, i would like to see what Goff has. That special team pop he had makes you want to see more.

Overall, i just want the Giants to have a Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis type in the middle and can roam for years!

by Hootman on Nov 12, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if the giants (unfortunately) end up with a higher pick

and brandon spikes slips to them, thats gonna be a hard pick to pass up. i love hakeem nicks and the giants made the right pick, but imagine if we had big rey rey mauluga, playing downhill and creaming guys behind the line of scrimmage and playing sideline to sideline. man, the bengals got a steal.

by GiantsReignSupreme on Nov 12, 2009 10:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

to be honest...

I actually don’t see Spikes being that high of a pick.

Him and Rolando McClain are seemingly the top MLB’s in the draft. McClain seems to be going in the top 15 in mocks, while actually damn near every mock I see has the Giants picking at the low 20’s and getting Spikes.

Actually, even a few weeks ago when the Giants seemed like they were in the back end of the draft they may be getting Spikes.

There’s also a few other LB’s, like Quan Sturdivant from UNC that could be 3rd round guys…I don’t think he’s like Gerris Wilkenson et al either cuz Sturdivant is a tackling machine and really not a ‘potential’ type guy like Wilkenson

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 12, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Through week 9, were currently at #20

Depending on other team needs, this seems like an area where teams like to move down to, or go up to. Just saying!

by Hootman on Nov 12, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking of that too

Nicks has been great, but from the limited knowledge of the Bengals I have, they give a lot of credit to mauluga to getting them to be more aggressive.

Too bad he couldn’t have dropped just a little bit more

The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls

On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.

by Willgfass on Nov 12, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Spikes would be good. To my knowledge this recent incident is the only blemish on his record. He’d be a solid pick if he interviews well. The guy is a beast.

by JRSu1 on Nov 12, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For those of you that actually watch college football

I read that Reese is gonna be at the USF/ Rutgers game today.

Lost of potential Giants on both rosters. Nate Allen is an excellent safety, possible a 1st-2nd rounder. George Selvie is another one. John Pierre-Paul is a Jevon Kearse clone, but only a junior.

Another one is Anthony Davis, the LT from Rutgers. He’s a large person (I’ve seen 330 to 350).

I know that’s a little big than the Giants O-Lineman they usually draft, but maybe a big mauler like that could help them on 3rd and 1?

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 12, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

anthony davis is gonna be a top pick in the draft

with how high good tackles have been valued lately in the draft, i could see him going in the top 15 or higher. plus, even with the o-line aging, i dont think the giants go offensive line in the first round.

by GiantsReignSupreme on Nov 12, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you could be right...

tho I’m just going by mock drafts. I rarely see him in the first round actually, let alone top pick

I see Russel Okung OSU, Bryan Bulaga Iowa, Bruce Cambpell Maryland put in the top 10-15.

Even in the middle to late first round I see Charles Brown USC and Ciron Black LSU.

I think the problem with Davis is his weight, tho watching him slap around the DE’s from USF last night…..all of whom are very good, I think all these mockers are wrong.

Like I said Reese was there at the game and you could see them draft Davis. He’s gigantic and more like Andre Smith from Alabama last year (hopefully sans holdout, stupidity and laziness)

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 13, 2009 7:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you guys are forgetting

the Giants will pick 32nd after they WIN THE FREAKIN’ SUPERBOWL

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 13, 2009 12:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How about a Safety?

The way the Giants secondary has been toasted this year, you may want to consider a safety with the first pick. There are no guarantees that Kenny Phillips will be 100% and you have seen the results of having a mediocre guy at that position…DISASTER!

by bubba23 on Nov 18, 2009 5:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

not with the first pick

we have to believe that KP21 will be back next year, we can’t use another first round pick for a safety….We should definately draft a safety for depth but that should be in the 3rd or 4th round

by mclaren_is_the_best on Nov 18, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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