team didn’t make that big defensive stop or that clutch offensive play for most of that season, it was later in the year when they really stood up and made plays, and when Eli looked like a Probowl Qb, when Cory Webster showed he was a play maker. It’s not too late to save this season, but with our remaining schedule, if we were to make another run like 2007 it would be even more impressive. It’s very unlikely we can do it again, but I wouldn’t want any other Qb or Head coach to to try and pull it off. So I’m keeping the faith til all hope is lost, and thats atleast several weeks away.

Bondy is long-winded but he is making a good point..they just aren’t making the plays when they need to..I am at a loss..Hopefully Kehl will help..shame about Wilkinson though..Our team is in total disarray..on both sides of the ball..I never witnessed this before. You could have always counted on the defense.. not now..Somebody mentioned running a 3-4..with what?..Who on earth who want to try that?..

What’s this Gerris Wilkinson is hurt…. I can’t believe it.

A 3-4 would never work with the DEs NY has. It is bad enough when they try to throw them out into pass coverage, imagine Osi not lined up hands down? I am not knocking what they have now, but the Giants do not have the kind of LBs or DEs needed to pull that off. Maybe they should switch to the old Chicago 46 defense instead, leaving Rouse to wander the backfield alone…hahaha

Fire Coughlin

So since and earlier post mentioned A DC that we tried to hire in the offseason is a 3-4 DC we now are debating it like it is up for discussion? Never will happen.

On to Wilkinson I feel bad he got hurt again because I saw the same potential in him the front office did like when he was healthy and playing you guys might remember the game we beat the Patriots. Boley, and Sintim in with Pierce navigating will be good for the rest of the year then AP needs his walking papers.

But the biggest difference is LUCK.

I believe great teams make their own luck. But there were so many balls that if they just bounced the other way, than maybe we’d be looking at 6-3, 7-2.

New Orleans, webster had the ball in his hands, than bounced to the NO receiver. In 2007, webster would have caught that.
and i could go on with the same examples.

We just need to come back and make our own luck again. And maybe apply stickum to WEbster’s hands.

Webster makes the play vs Saints I’m not convinced it makes much difference. I think we still get blown out.

I thought the season was gone when Phillips went down and was surprised they won the next three games. Count the number of genuine Pro Bowl calibers players the Giants have. Snee, Manning, Tuck and ……? For them to win everyone has to play at their best and they cannot afford anyone to be out of position or miss an assignment. I think that has not changed since 2007 and now they cannot lose Phillips or Webster or anyone on the offensive line because the replacements are not up to the task and their success depends on team work and constant communication and understanding, not pure talent. In 2007, if memory serves, they led the NFL in drops. The difference was that Plaxico could have a huge game as he did against the Packers and every team in the league knew they had to double team him. When he removed himself, the G men had no replacement. Coughlin has done an amazing job of winning as many games as he has with this talent, relying on teamwork and discipline to overcome a lack of great talent at most positions.
       Lindy’s ranked Tuck 3rd and Umenyiora 5th but the only defensive tackles listed were Bernard and Canty. Overall, their defensive line was not listed in the top 12. Antonio Pierce was not in the top 20 MIKES, and the only outside backer was Michael Boley.There was no Giants corner among the top 30 nor was there a Giant among the top 30 safeties. So, only Tuck and Umenyiora have played significant time among the Giants listed and Tuck has been playing hurt. Is it surprising that good offenses pick our defense apart? With Canty, Boley, Phillips and a healthy Tuck the Giants have a chance but with the talent they have been forced to put on the field recently they are simply outmanned. There was no Giants receiver among the top 30 and their overall passing game was not even listed. Eli was there at number 11among quarterbacks. I think Steve Smith should be there and Nicks will become a great receiver but the loss of Burress and the swift decline of Toomer has left the Giants short there. Brandon Jacobs was the third best running back, but he has not lived up to that this year. Chris Snee was the only Giants line man in the top 30 but Snee and Seubert were rated the top tandem at guard. O’Hara was rated the 12th best center but no Giants tackle made the list.
         My point is this, with their key players healthy and playing in top form the Giants are a good team, but not a great team even then. They cannot afford turnovers and penalties and they have to have takeaways to win. They also need a very good kicking game. The future is pretty good as their young players mature and they get healthy. A team with Tuck, Osi, Canty and Bernard on the line and Boley and Sintim at outside linebacker and a replacement for Pierce in the middle, Ross and Webster at the corners and Phillips and a replacement for Johnson at safety is good enough to win. Assuming continued improvement by Smith, Nicks and Manningham their receivers will be better than most and the next draft can yield some offensive line depth and tight end depth. Eli is one of the best in the game with a good line in front of him and receivers who get open and run disciplined routes.
       That is my take- Coughlin is a great coach who has done better than expected with what he has, Eli is a very good quarterback, the O line is aging and needs some fresh blood and the defense will be good enough with two weak positions shored up and everyone healthy. The needs are O line depth, a running back, a backup tight end, a middle linebacker, a safety and a new punter.

Diehl back to guard where will be awesome and Seubert becomes a G/C back up. Say god bye to McKenzie after this year. Beatty plays one tackle slot and a free agent

(sorry – PC issues)

AP is done after this year. Boley and Sintim are the only two linebackers with a big upside. Kehl? Possible but dunno. The rest are pedestrian and career backups.

Someone on this board said it last year – safety has become a key position so you need three starter caliber safeties. We HAD two.

Nicks, Smith and Manningham will be OK but not sure any of them is a top five in the NFL, scare the bejesus out of a D receiver. But good enuff. Say goodbye to Hagen and Moss unless Hagen really is that good on specials.

The rest of the team is Ok but some new coaching blood is needed. TC is a B level coach. Not bad. But today’s players have passed him by.

Now – Giants. If you would please. Prove me wrong. Please. Make the playoffs.