New York Giants news and notes: Of course, it's about Eli
You would never believe it if I told you lots of the questions following Wednesday's New York Giants practice were about the availability of Eli Manning for Sunday's game despite plantar fasciitis. But, they were so I am telling you anyway.
Here is Eli discussing his availability after not practicing.
"There are no guarantees really, just have to take it day by day, see if it gets better so you never know what can happen. It has been improving every day so hopefully it will continue to do that," Manning said. "Compared to how it felt on Monday, it feels a lot better, so I am happy with the progress. I am happy that it is improving, that I am walking around better, having less pain, so that is all good stuff."
Tynes says he has "plantar alignment"
I am glad Tynes still has a sense of humor after his struggles thus far this season. I will be even happier when he stops missing field goals he should be making. Tynes thinks he might have found a reason for his struggles.
Tynes said he and special-teams coach Tom Quinn have discovered a problem by looking at film of his mechanics from 2007 and last season. Tynes’ plant foot (his left one) was at the ideal spot six inches away from the ball. They compared it to film of his recent kicks and saw lately his plant foot has been 10 inches or more away from the ball.
"That could be a pretty big reason why I’m swinging across or I’ve missed a couple left and have left some out ot the right," Tynes said. "That was encouraging, for sure, to see that."
Tynes knows where his left foot should be all the time, but like any craft that requires exact mechanics, it’s easy to fall into bad habits. The key is getting rid of them quickly, which is something punter Jeff Feagles is able to do.
"You always have to stay on top of what you’re doing," Tynes said. "Jeff’s been in this thing 22 years and he’s still (working on his mechanics). There were a couple of weeks between camp where he was working on simple stuff he had just forgotten. It’s a never-ending process."
The state of the RaidersIt's pretty ugly in the land of the silver and black. How ugly? Well, defensive end Richard Seymour, recently of the perennial power New England Patriots was asked about Oakland and responded "Well, the weather's nice."
Seymour tried his best to put a positive spin on both the Raiders' struggles and his place with his new team.
"When I came to New England it wasn’t a team that was always contending. We were coming off a 5-11 season. It is just something that we built over the course of time," he said. "We definitely have talent. But, as we all know, talent alone isn’t going to get the job done. It takes a group of guys that are all on the same page and are trying to fight for the same common goals. I think that is definitely what it takes. Like I said, we have that talent in the locker room but we just have to put it out on the football field.
Tom Cable was asked about preparing for the Giants with the uncertainty surrounding Manning. I got a kick out of his telling response.
"Well, our issues are us, quite frankly. We are 1-3 and disappointed in that. And so we really can’t worry too much about what is going on with someone else.," Cable said. "We have to worry about us right now. And that has kind of been our thing."
Other Injury News
Tight end Kevin Boss said he is "seeing improvement every day" in his injured ankle. Bryan Kehl is lobbying for a chance to play Sunday despite having surgery Monday to repair a broken index finger. Gotta love the young man's attitude.
"I think I can, but we will see if they let me," Kehl said. How would he tackle an opposing player? "I have two arms, I have another hand and two shoulders. I’m not worried at all. I have two other fingers. No problem, I mean guys play with broken hands all the time."
Even More Stuff to Read
- Matt Mosley of ESPN says Giants' cornerback Bruce Johnson is the most surprising rookie in the NFC East.
- Pierce: Defenders need defending too
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Eli's playing...
I’m on my way to the bank with that one.
Lets go Yankees. And Angels…for now.
What the f$%k is the internet?
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 8, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
boooooooo
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 8, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
Kinda sux I gotta wait till one in the morning to even see the end result of this game.
I bet if they were playing the Yanks, the game would at the latest be at 8.
What the f$%k is the internet?
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 8, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Cable
Well, if all you have to do is moreless worry about what your team is doing, and not what the rest of the league is doing, it’s going to reflect on your record, 1-3!
I understand each team has ailments that need to be addressed first to succeed, but going about this as your thing, can have consequences come Sunday!
by Hootman on Oct 8, 2009 8:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cables comments
Make no sense at all!!..What the hell was he talking about?..Does he have his players just watching films of themselves..and not the opponent they are facing? That’s whacky!!..Good thing he has apparently a good left hook, to use when his supporting staff complains…Down they go!!..Al Davis must have alzhiemers..He sure knows how to get rid of good coaches and hire bird-brains.
by Bobbiblue on Oct 8, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another player to be cut?
This report suggests that if Eli CAN’T play, then Bomar will have to be promoted and someone else cut. They suggest Gartrell Johnson (now that Ware is almost ready) or Guy Whimper (Big Blue View non-favorite). It seems to me there’s another possibility—Eli suits up but only plays in case Carr gets hurt. It seems pretty clear from what we read so far that Eli COULD play if necessary, but it may not a good thing for him. By the way, I like what Carr has to say about playing with the A-team.
Final thought: didn’t there used to be a guided missile or some fancy kind of Air Force weapon called the “Bomar”? C’mon, vets help me out with this.
by hopeforthefuture3 on Oct 8, 2009 8:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIM-10_Bomarc
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 8, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew it!
I remember putting together that plastic model when I was a kid.
by hopeforthefuture3 on Oct 8, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd hope for option 3
That they’d suit up Manning as #2 and only play him if Carr got hurt.
Ed, who would be the emergency #3 on a normal day? I know it was RW in the past, and I think Feagles maybe has been it before, but that would be frightening.
by TNYFBG on Oct 8, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you..
I think that may very well be the best option.
by Bobbiblue on Oct 8, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea
I did see Tynes making some throws during some training camp drills, but none of us wants to see that. So, I really don’t know who it would be.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 8, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough call on that one
I don’t ever recall the Giants activating three QB’s for a game? I’m sure the Giants want to preserve Eli’s streak, but more importantly, his health for the future. In all honesty, i can’t see the Giants going with just Carr starting and Bomar backing him up. We’re all not 100% sold on Carr to begin with, so this would seem even shakier, well for the fans.
At the very least, i could see Eli being the emergency third QB! Or, just in case, Carr starts and Eli is the backup (he thinks he can go) and Bomar is the emergency QB (hopefully not needed)!
I’m just wondering if this has any factual weight to it, or just a smoke screen?!
by Hootman on Oct 8, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does the NFL
still have that crazy rule about only being able to play 2 QB’s in a game, the one that screwed over the Jets back when Vinny Testaverde got hurt (when they had their punter listed as a 3rd string QB, so if they’d put Ray Lucas in, Tupa wouldn’t have been able to punt the rest of the game)
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 8, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes CJ
I got to thinking about a comment I made and I believe that is the rule..It sucks, but I don’t think Eli could start, go out and then go back in the game..The only way I think that could happen is if he fiegned an injury..kept working out on the sidelines and then came back..but that would be cheating..and that’s not our style and class.
by Bobbiblue on Oct 8, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what i could find about the third QB rule
You could substitute the names pretty easily for any scenario…
If the Eagles wanted to use the emergency quarterback – Vick in this case – in a first-quarter, goal-line situation, he would have to play quarterback, and McNabb couldn’t return. If Vick didn’t enter until the fourth quarter, McNabb and Kolb could reenter thereafter. Vick could leave and reenter as well, but he could not “participate in the game at the same time as either of the club’s other two quarterbacks.”
Heres the full story that explains it more…
by Hootman on Oct 8, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for that Hoot..that explains it..It's a wierd rule but
I knew after thinking about that comment I made that there was this absurd rule about switching out QBs and their eligibility to go back in..
by Bobbiblue on Oct 8, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your welcome, it's always good to explore other options/ideas
Especially given the sensitivity of our situation. As fans, i’d rather have talked about it and possibly be prepared for it rather than a last minute bombshell! Actives and inactives sometimes can be deceiving from what we all hear preceeding up to gameday.
by Hootman on Oct 8, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure hope not
I don’t see it necessary..Worse case, Eli could still play with it if Carr comes in to spell him and winds up getting hurt..Although I think there is a rule about a QB going back in after being taken out..They may very well have to do something like cutting a guy to bring Bomar up…And yes there was a missile called BOMARC..Geez I hate getting old!!!haha
by Bobbiblue on Oct 8, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooops!
I see Simms-McConkey already answered your BOMARC question!..He must be up there in years also!!haha
by Bobbiblue on Oct 8, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm turning 33 next week...
but something of a foreign policy/history buff…
""Our armies do not come into your cities and lands as conquerors or enemies, but as liberators." — British Lt. Gen. Stanley Maude, Baghdad, March, 1917
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 8, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My god I'm hungover...
Harrah’s Pool Bar = Awesome.
Go Giants!
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 8, 2009 8:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Feagles as QB
okay this is just ridiculous and never going to happen… but it does raise a funny question:
Could the Giants beat the Raiders if they ran on every single play of the game, without throwing 1 pass?
Now that I have made this horrible speculation, ELi will start and the Giants will lose anyway… :(
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 8, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everyone just stop it now
Since I obtained a ticket for the game against the Raiders it seems the entire squad is injured in every way possible, airline pilots are taking strike action, the £ has dropped in value to the $ etc.
I am going to put my fingers in my ears and pretend none of this is happening and is all a big wind up or a bad dream and the reality of the game will be something positive for me to enjoy.
OK rant over – Bradshaw to be 3rd QB as a wildcat option.
by G Fan in England on Oct 8, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha
Don’t worry you will see a Giants win!!…Then you can head to the Wharf in San Fran and fill up on awesome seafood!
by Bobbiblue on Oct 8, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The game is at home
I am pretty sure, not out in Oakland.
by brisulph on Oct 8, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your right..another Ooops from bobbiblue!..I am on a roll today!!
by Bobbiblue on Oct 8, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well at least New York is a great place to eat also..
Maybe go hangout with Tito at Harrahs Pool Bar after the game..Sounds like Tito knows how to celebrate!haha
by Bobbiblue on Oct 8, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
flexbone baby
going old school
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 8, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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