New York Giants News & Notes: Injuries; Boomer on Eli; and some more on Steve Smith

by cjmulrain on Oct 7, 2009 12:55 PM EDT in News Comment 45 comments

With all the injuries piling up for the Giants, I can't help but compare them to the Mets, who many forget were in first place when they started suffering from a rash of injuries that torpedoes their season and turned it into a 92-loss disaster. Luckily, the Giants are a much deeper squad than the Mets, and are built to weather this storm, but I still worry that one or two more injuries to key players could do serious damage to the Giants championship hopes. Winning this game against the Raiders is important, but almost equally as important is getting out of there without any major injuries.

Speaking of injuries, Boomer Esiason knows Eli's pain, literally. Esiason, the 1988 NFL MVP, suffered from plantar fasciitis during his career. The injury never caused Boomer to miss a game, but he says that the constant pain in his heel was one of the things that drove him to retirement.
Just in case Eli can't make it, David Carr says he's ready to go on Sunday. Also in that article, the Giants have decided to stick with Lawrence Tynes after working out Matt Bryant and Matt Stover yesterday. I have a feeling Tynes is on a short leash, however.
Ralph Vachianno reviews the game tape from Sunday's win over the Chiefs, and says no Giants were hurt while reviewing the game. Whew.
Finally, Tom Rock at Newsday writes about the emergence of Steve Smith, and a little bit about his matchup with Nmandi Asomugha this weekend.

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Great grabs as always CJ

I might have to soften my stance on Eli playing Sunday! It’s a real pain in the ass trying to think about an injury/condition with such a wide range of symptoms and outcomes…

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 7, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I love Steve Smith

But he has a hell of a matchup this weekend. Hopefully Nicks can thrive in the slot.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 7, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

just move....

smith back to the slot and leave nicks out wide. The raiders won’t move assmunch into the middle of the field where he would be out of place without the sideline… Smith thrives in there anyway

by Flynner on Oct 7, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

roflmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

assmunch, yo flynner i love you man lmfaooo

by karamjitm9090 on Oct 7, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Practice

If Eli can’t practice he probably shouldn’t play Sunday. We should be able to beat the Raiders without him. J&B all day with a few passes sprinkled in and Carr can earn his money.

by 7mike on Oct 7, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wash down some Ham & Swiss with J&B

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 7, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

by potroast on Oct 7, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, OK Carr

You say your ready to roll, but your not the most trustworthy of drivers. It’s like the first time your parents handed over the key’s to the Mercedes. If this is your first time starting the car, you BETTER, bring it back the same way it was before you took it, unblemished!

by Hootman on Oct 7, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

HAHA

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 7, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's face it.

It is likely that sooner or later Carr may have to step in. This week may be a good time to test him since we are playing the Raiders.

by giant fan since 57 on Oct 7, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tell you what

Carr can ride shotgun until were halfway there. Then perhaps he can drive! ;)

by Hootman on Oct 7, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right on, 57

Not a better game on the schedule to give Eli some time to heal.

by blue gonz on Oct 7, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Where is the news on Kehl?

Was I just having a nightmare? I swore I heard or saw somewhere he had some surgery on his hand this week after the Cheifs game.

by RIPShea on Oct 7, 2009 2:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

yeah, for a broken finger

and I’m thinking, who the heck gets SURGERY for a broken finger?
Shoot, when I was in Little League and I broke my finger (yes, fighting, sorry mom) I just taped it to the next one so I could go out and play third base and it wouldn’t waggle around…
I’ve never heard of broken finger surgery unless that * just broke right off… weird.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 7, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've never had a broken finger, so take this for the conjecture it is

but I have to imagine not all broken fingers are created equal. Seems like a break in multiple places (there’s more than one bone in the finger, right?) with accompanying ligament damage could possibly require surgery.

by JoshNY on Oct 7, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's correct

The finger was fractured, not broken

by blue gonz on Oct 7, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

From Tom Coughlin's Press Conference

Q. Bryan Kehl, is there anything he can do this week?

A: Yes. He is telling me he wants to practice. But he is also holding
this thing (his hand) up in the air. It looks like he has a basketball
on the end of one of his fingers. We will wait again to get clearance
from the doctors as to when. He thinks he can put a cast on it and
practice. It is just a shame that this thing was in the position that
it was in. Otherwise he would have probably been able to tape and go.

Q. It’s in a weird position in his hand?

A: No, no. It is just the fact that it was a break – fracture – and
they had to go in and put the screw in.

what the heck?? a basketball? i dont really understand that analogy lol.

by RIPShea on Oct 7, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you ever see that cast

that looks like a club on a player’s hand? That’s what he’s referring too.

What the f$%k is the internet?

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 7, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

being an Ole Miss fan

I watched Patrick Willis wear a cast aka club for almost a whole season and he was dominant… It did not however look close to the size of a basketball.

Maybe a softball? I dunno. If he said basketball maybe its something else or I’m just looking way too into it.

by RIPShea on Oct 7, 2009 7:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I think you just have to

realize that Coughlin isn’t being literal.

What the f$%k is the internet?

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 7, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you right...

coughlin said it was the position of the break that caused problems.

right now he’s walking around w/ his finger straight up in the air…so to play on that could be troublesome.

but he is lobbying to practice…he’s a gamer that kehl.

Wilkinson should be taking notes…

"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT

by andiamo708 on Oct 7, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh good deal

I’ll forget I even asked. That’s kinda bizarre. Who starts- Kehl or Blackburn? I think both bring something to the table. I like our LB depth even if some questioned it.

by RIPShea on Oct 7, 2009 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I did too..several times

But it was just put into a splint..He either really messed it up for a surgical procedure, or they may have felt it would hasten his return..As you obviously know we had those splints on for weeks..Big ’ol metal ones..Perhaps they felt that they could have him back in the line-up quicker with surgery.

by Bobbiblue on Oct 7, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

God, Bobbi,

all those injuries. I’ve had my share, but nothing to match the # and kind you’ve cited. You sound like you’re in your sixties. If you’re not in a wheel chair, or have some kind of replacement, or don’t use a cane or walk with a limp, congratulations. You’re one lucky man, still you must have plenty of aches and pains when you get out of bed in the morning? How about Advil? I take two a day. You must be up around eight or ten. Or do you use more powerful stuff? And you coach, too? That’s great.

by blue gonz on Oct 7, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah..not in my sixties yet and no wheelchair either..

But I have broken several fingers..wrecked my knees ski racing and have had the same injury Eli has right now..and yes Advil is is a good thing..!!!

by Bobbiblue on Oct 7, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not as bad as I thought, then.

That’s good. Keep doing what you’ve always done then( except skiing.) I messed up both knees skiing, not racing but hot dogging. Considering disasters I’ve heard or read about (including celebrities like Sonny Bono, one of Bobby K’s kids and Miranda richardson) I got off easy. Not that they were hotdogging

by blue gonz on Oct 7, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes not too bad..

I thought I successfully ran through the injury “Gauntlet” in my life…Until I got roped into coaching little league again..My reflexes at 53 have substantially diminished..I have found out very quickly that when you teach kids how to hit a baseball at my age..There’s a really good chance I am going to get hit!!..haha..So the wheelchair may still be in my future..haha

by Bobbiblue on Oct 7, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I work out

My goal is seven days, which ends up averaging 4-5. It’s pathetic. The only aerobics I can handle is the ellipyical. I can’t use free weights (knees. ankles, lack of balance prevents) so I stick to machines. Don’t try for strength/bulking up, but light weight, loads of reps, upper body one day, lower the next (swelling in knees/ankles means I can’t always handle lower.)
I swear if I didn’t do it, I’d be a shuffler (altakokte?)

by blue gonz on Oct 7, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sintim is apparently practicing

and may be called upon this week. If so, he may get in on a few sub-packages.

by brisulph on Oct 7, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That is good to hear

by Bobbiblue on Oct 7, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Some good news anyway

by blue gonz on Oct 7, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tuck

Any reports on how Justin Tuck came out of the Chiefs-fest? It looks like that wagon is starting to roll and it would be a shame to miss an opportunity to run up the sack-count against the Raiders. We will certainly need a healthy pass rush next week to put the heat on Brees. Whoever we have at QB and WR, if the D-Line is still firing on all cylinders the I am 75% happy.

by Johannus on Oct 7, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He claimed

it felt even better the next day, so Tuck appears to be doing well.

by potroast on Oct 7, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Argh! This is so frustrating!

All these injuries are driving me nuts! I know we’re deep and I trust the next guy to step up. I know how great our system is. But even w/ putting the fears of what it could cost aside, just thinking of how awesome this team could be w/ everyone healthy is making me sick.

by YankeeDudeL on Oct 7, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Your right..but

Our injuries are very frustrating..but we have the talent to step in and they are gaining very valuable experience..and doing a great job..This team we have have is going to be a monster in December/January..I just have the feeling this team could very well be in for a championship.

by Bobbiblue on Oct 7, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Only if.

Eli steers the boat, not “run david run” carr.

by TurboWei on Oct 7, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes Eli is key

Carr can’t get it done..As I said earlier, he is still “Punch Drunk”..and he is standing behind the best OL in the business..Even with that he bails out too quick..You can’t make the right reads downfield when your bailing out..and when your jumping up and down you can’t plant your foot and throw it accurately..We need a healthy Eli back there>

by Bobbiblue on Oct 7, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If everyone was healthy...

…it would be one of the best Giant teams ever, and a favorite to win the Super Bowl. But we’ve won the Super Bowl before with key players injured—Kiwanuka last time. Simms replaced by Hostetler. Etc. They don’t need to be a great team, just good enough to win.

by hopeforthefuture3 on Oct 7, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Simply put, the best Giants team ever

will always be one with Lawrence Taylor on it. The rest can be great, his was transcendant.

by nybaseballgiants on Oct 7, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Certainly the best defense with LT..

…beyond a doubt. LT’s greatness brought it to the highest level. But I think the rest of our current defenders match up okay with that team (especially when we get Boley back), and Webster and TT are both better than anyone playing corner back then. And then there’s the offense, which I think is much better on the current team. Better set of receivers, and I think Eli’s a better quarterback, although very much in the mold of St Phil.

by hopeforthefuture3 on Oct 7, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Time will tell.

Right now, your contention sounds reasonable, but this team (we all hope) is just getting started.

by blue gonz on Oct 7, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can't help but compare them to who now?

"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin

by Mr. Met on Oct 7, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

There will never be another player

Like the “real” L.T…No one player I ever watched could take over a game singlehandedly..That guy was unreal..I still watch tapes of him..Collectively and healthy, we have a great team..but there is nobody like Lawrence Taylor was..He’d play with one arm and take over a game..His Restaurant sucked(anyone out here ever eat at LTs?), but he sure didn’t..What a wrecking machine he was on the field..Every team he played against tried to focus on him but could not. He’s the best player I ever watched play the game.

by Bobbiblue on Oct 7, 2009 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

depth on the giants will help them with these injuries…building from bottom to top always produces victories along with youth…this giant team is solid!!!

by NYG'ER on Oct 8, 2009 3:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs