Previewing Giants vs. Chiefs, 'Kudos & Wet Willies' style
Let's take a look at Sunday's matchup between our New York Giants and the Kansas City Chiefs, in what is becoming our standard 'Kudos & Wet Willies' preview style.
There will be lots of 'Kudos' Monday if ...
- The Giants play like the Giants. If the Giants don't suffer any sort of let down against the 0-3 Chiefs, this should be another game in the win column for the good guys. I don't expect that to happen. This team's maturity level is one of the most impressive things about it.
- The Giants take advantage of the porous KC offensive line. The Chiefs have had all sorts problems in the offensive line thus far, and are still shifting personnel. The Giants have just three sacks in three games, but if that number doubles on Sunday I would not be surprised. The Chiefs have surrendered eight sacks thus far.
- Kevin Boss has a big day. It seems the Chiefs have had trouble covering the tight end this season, so Sunday could be a breakout day for Boss.
- Brandon Jacobs plays angry. The Beast has been hearing criticism this week, and you know he isn't happy about it. Someone is going to pay, and pay with pain, for the comments that Jacobs has been 'tip-toeing.'
There will be lots of 'Wet Willies' if ...
- The Giants turn the ball over. They have not had a turnover since Week 1 against Washington. Like Tampa Bas last week the Giants face a team that should not be able to compete with them -- unless the Giants hand them easy opportunities with turnovers.
- KC running back Larry Johnson has a big day. He is averaging just 2.5 yards per carry this season. The Chiefs, though, are 12-1 when Johnson gets 30 or more carries. The Giants need to show that they can continue to stuff the run like they did last week, instead of being gashed for big plays like they were against the Cowboys.
SUMMARY: Over at Arrowhead Pride they are trying to convince themselves their Chiefs have a shot at getting their first victory on Sunday. They are trying, but even they don't sound like they really believe it. Neither do I. The only way the Giants lose on Sunday is if they beat themselves with stupid mistakes. I see no reason that will happen.
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I'm sure Tampa fans tried to convince themselves the same thing
Then the game kicked off. As for the Chiefs, the one thing the Giants can’t do is give KC hope because Arrowhead will become tough to play. So the Giants need to start early and keep Chiefs fans hopes to win very low.
I can envision something to similar to the Bucs game
Offensively, running the ball with angry-J and keeping the pass somewhat vanilla. After establishing angry-J, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Boss, Beckum and Nicks getting targets between the hash marks! The 7-15 yard variety with a few shots deeper on the outside to Ham & Swiss to keep the safeties honest!
Defensively, if they’re OL is as porous as advertised, Sheridan should dial-up frequent blitzes. Hit ’em hard and hit ’em early, setting the tone and demoralizing there fans! Thus, Larry Johnson running into the backs of his OL resulting into negative yards!
Awe c'mon, i'm not the only one around here! :p
Angry-J will be gone once he’s happier. Like the next game when Siragusa is covering a game in the back of the endzone and angry-J scores and runs up to him and gives him the ball, then tells him where to put it! ;)
Actually, angry-J just came to me when i was posting. So it’s not the norm!
I don't think the Chiefs are going to win this game
But they have a knack for keeping some of these games close (last week not included) so I don’t expect a total blow out but by the fourth quarter we’ll pretty much know the outcome.
Joel
Could be. I am certainly not discounting anything at all. I just know that if the Giants play to their abilities this should be a New York victory. But, anything can happen.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 3, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Not looking good
for us Chiefs fans. Our only hope is that some how some way we get tired of losing, get pissed, get our shite together and come out and smash you guys in the mouth. Here is to hoping!
Sackoff (McIntosh,Goff) like Brangelina.
It was a pretty good post
although a couple of sections looked right out of the ESPN preseason preview. “The Giants are banged up at receiver and they don’t have a standout unit to begin with”. Really? Are we still going to trot that line out? If that’s a point of hope for them, well good luck to ya.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Oct 3, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions
I thought Hixon was banged-up.
But I also think the WR corps is generally better than the “preseason preview,” too.
Chiefs had some success against Chokeland’s 4-man rush and had some success running against it. What they have NOT shown that they can do is make something happen with their skill players when the opposition shows no respect, blitzes and jumps on all the short routes.
No reason to think the Chiefs can beat the blitz until and unless they do, so that’s what I expect to see the Gi’nts do.
Part of the Chiefs’ struggles are because they’re shuffling people around, especially on O-Line. Pioli decided to use the draft to shore up (manufacture) the (a 3-4) D-Line, and late FA to shore up the O-Line. In early FA, they took RG Goff from San Diego and C Ghiaciuc from Cincy. Goff has held the #1 slot since then (but has struggled), and Ghiaciuc is gone. In late FA, KC picked up a couple also-rans from New England and Miami, where they had some connections and where there was an ongoing search, so the also-rans were (potentially) almost-made-its.
RG Ikechuku Ndukwe from Miami immediately started at RT (KC’s biggest issue), even though he’s a very good starting G. True RT O’Callaghan, from New England, the most recent (not practice-squad) acquisition is expected to start at RT, and I expect Ndukwe will challenge Goff at RG in coming weeks. O’Callaghan is known as a pass-protector, but not so much as a run-blocking mauler.
It’s hard to say that the Chiefs WILL fix their problems, but they continue pecking away with new people and with the current people spending more and more time together (almost ZERO stability at ANY position since December). Many of the big plays against them were just a hair’s-breadth from going the other direction, but the LB is maybe a beat too late to the ball or the 20-yard gain is called back for a penalty.
If the Chiefs choose this weekend to start firing on all cylinders, this could be a tough game for the Gi’nts, even though nobody who follows both teams will predict a KC win. OK, I will, but I’m a homer, and I’d believe the world was flat if Todd Haley said it was in a press conference. Haley is known for his success with QBs and WRs, and they’ve shown some flashes, and D-Bowe hasn’t dropped a single pass he’s gotten his hands on since becoming a Haley protege. But these are just road signs on the way to a MUCH better team, and they’ve been facing the best (and being spanked) – KC has faced Baltimore, (Oakland – no QB/WRs, yet), Philly, and faced Houston and Minnesota in preseason.
They haven’t been very good, YET, but they KNOW what good is, because they’ve had it rubbed in their face, and they’re a BIG team, with real stout in the middle of the D, in particular. Gi’nts don’t want to be the first team to see KC put it all together, and if they DO put it all together after last week’s humiliation, they’re just one or two lucky bounces (or INTs instead of knock-downs) away from making a 4-quarter match of it. Just ask Baltimore.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Giants could lose if :
They are looking ahead and underestimate a weal opponent
Have a lot of turnovers
Get pass happy when all they need to do is run the ball
Fail to apply pressure with the pass rush
All unlikely scenarios
O by the way there is a hilarious post about a fictionalized encounter between Haley and his players on the kissing suzy kolber blog. Has some offensive language so skip it if you are easily offended. In the story, LJ lets Charles park his car and Charles puts it in Haley’s parking spot to get Johnson in trouble. Haley goes ballistic on LJ and cuts him on the spot. Really struck me funny.
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/ is the site is you are up for a good laugh and aren’t sensitive to strong language.
Out of those 4 things,
the only thing that really actually could happen is the turnovers, which usually with Eli in his career are just bad luck cuz the WR can’t catch.
Everything else, Coughlin and the staff won’t do, especially getting pass happy when they have the lead. The pass rush has never been a problem so far, and also the coaching staff won’t allow them to look ahead, they usually don’t even speak of next week’s opponent (which is the Raiders…so there’s no need to be worried about the next game)
What the f$%k is the internet?
Running the ball against KC out of a misguided common wisdom will HELP the Chiefs.
Seriously, the run is the only thing their D has shown they can defeat. A good team will take what’s given, and the pass is what the Chiefs have been giving up. You don’t run against ‘em just because it’s what you want to do, or because you have Jacobs or Bradshaw on your fantasy football team. Make the Chiefs prove they can stop your pass, before abandoning it.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
the Giants simply do whatever is working,
cuz they can. They won’t stick with anything when its not working, something teams with lesser offenses can rely on.
The Giants will see what the Chiefs have on film and come up with a plan suited for it, as they always do. Its always effective cuz the GIatns seem to march down the field like a hot knife through butter on their first drives.
The Giants won’t go with the pass until you prove you can stop it and they won’t do teh same with the run. They’ll do a mix of whatever they feel like.
What the f$%k is the internet?
Running the ball won't do it, if recent history is any guide.
KC shut down Baltimore’s run game early, and Flacco went to the air to beat ‘em. That same formula has worked for everyone else. Eli’s gonna have to beat ‘em with the pass, and, so far, there’s every indication that he will be successful in doing so.
KC has struggled to get pressure on the QB, and their corners, drafted and trained for cover-2, have not been able to single up on WRs long enough for their (so-far-ineffectual) blitz to get to the QB. Clancy Pendergast, the DC whose unit struggled all last season, until gelling for a STRONG playoff run in AZ, knows how to bring it, but this unit hasn’t yet jelled. If they learn to play with abandon within the new scheme, they could be very dangerous, but their LBs are mostly built to attack up the field, rather than cover the middle against the pass, but every time they abandon the middle, the CBs drop the ball, and every time they don’t, the LBs themselves have struggled.
You don’t know if it’s going to gel this week, and no reason to think it will, but the Gi’nts can’t afford to give ‘em any momentum on offense or defense, or they might start believing they can win. Beat ’em with the pass and show no respect for THEIR pass, and the Gi’nts should dominate, much as the Ravens and Iggles did. If they can dominate with the pass, Jacobs and Bradshaw should be able to stick a fork in the Chiefs in the 2nd half.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Anyone remember the Monday nighter in Cleveland about this time last year?
Any given Sunday, boys and girls, gotta show up ready to go.
Chiefs only chance to win this game...
Is to get the running game going, stay disciplined(which they did really well week 1 but not since), and if the Giants make mistakes. Your run defense is pedestrian at best if not bad but thats really the only weakness we can attack. If the Giants play like the Giants and the Chiefs play like we know they can play then I have to go with Joel and say the Giants will win this but will be close come the 4th quarter.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
was watching
a short segment on nfl.com with picks of the week, where sapp, chris and phil wouldn’t even waste any time on picking this game.
ITFL
You would have to be referring to Showtime’s Inside the NFL. Collingsworth, Simms and Sapp are not on NFL.com, although Sapp does make guest appearances on NFL Network.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
yes, that's the show
they air segments of it on nfl.com
44 - 0
as i said yesterday,the coaches will try to keep the score down, but the defensive unit will score 2x to blow it open.
week 1 wasn’t as close as the final score indicated. same for last week.
this week the killer instinct will appear.
by NYer in a strange land on Oct 3, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions
I still get back to Big Jake...He has
Built up a real awnry demeanor this week..I have a feeling every hole he sees tommorrow is going to look like some analyst’s giant “pie-hole” and he’s planning on shutting them up..Also, not as much critique, but critized nonetheless is our defense..even after shutting down TB to basically to life support I am sure they are going to be blowing smoke out of their nostrils this week..Watch out KC, a train is coming!!
Nice site, Big Blue.
May the better team win and may KC be the better team! (holding my breath, turning (big) blue)
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 3, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The Chiefs are a much better team than the Bucs
So this will be a tougher matchup then last week. We need to not play down to our opponents, not get complacent, and not force the ball to Hakeem Nicks when he’s out there. I’ve read in a few places that Eli wants to get back on the same page with Hakeem da Dream to reestablish the rapport they had going on during the preseason, and thats great but it just can’t translate to forcing the ball to him. But I doubt that’ll happen, this team is much better than that.
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by mahmoodzaky on Oct 3, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i smell a blood bath
There is no playing to the competition now, its balls to the wall hard nose football i predict a shutout and a 28 point game
oops I crapped my pants!
Steady & Strong
I hope the G-Men don’t take the Chiefs too lightly. Everyone agrees this should be a win for the Giants. The only way that Big Blue can lose is if they break down mentally and beat themselves. I doubt that will happen and I’m sure Coach Coughlin will have the team thinking right. I predict the Giants winning by at least 2 TD’s.
GO NY GIANTS!!
Turnovers
No matter who the better team is, turnovers could decide the winner.Lets hope the Giants
continue to hang on to the ball as in the first three games. Our Giant DL and OL should out play and out score the Chiefs. Since they are not in the same division, the score probably no more than 10 pts.
Who on your side of the fence..
Could possibly want to back up what you are posting?..They are all probably wondering what it is your smoking..Like I said earlier the “CPA” part of your ID certainly cannot translate to “Certified Public Accountant”..Here’s a math lesson for you: Giants 3-0, Chiefs 0-3..Watch out for the runaway train today..It is headed for Arrowhead at 1pm.
Your O-line couldn't open up holes..
Even if they taped reciprocating saws to their arms..LJ can’t run..because he is running into brick walls..and that bit about Cassel versus Eli?..you need to sober up Son..You’ve only got seven hours..We wouldn’t want you sleeping it off during the game..You’ll miss an oldfashioned butt-whooping..again..Here’s a postgame math lesson for you: Giants 4-0, Chiefs 0-4…Now I will try teach you later on in the season how to chart that on a line graph.
Tell me this
Patriots are seen as good evaluators of talent.
They are so thin at LB they are thinking of bringing in Junior Seau .
Would any of the last three LBs for the Giants play for the Pats? DeOsie, Goff or Wilkinson? If not, why do WE EVEN KEEP THEM? OK- DeOssie snaps. If Goff is AP’s heir apparent he would be second on the depth chart right? Not. And don’t get me started on Wilkinson.
Valuable roster spots.
Jacobs
It will be really interesting to see Jacobs play angry.He has looked tentative.Hopefully has a big game just to prove his point.The d-backs on the chiefs will not be happy that sports commentators stuck a stick into this wasps nest!
Tom Tallmadge Sr
Guys, guys
Enough with this CPA troll! Let’s not sink to the juvenile level he is trying to bring us to.
I don't mind some trash-talking
That, of course, is part of what fans are supposed to do. I just don’t want to see it get juvenile.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 4, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes but you can't avoid these young kids
Trashing it up..
Lord I wish I was still Juvenile!
Then I could watch the Giants lose for another 21 years..haha
obvious troll is obvious.
at least he’s giving you guys some entertainment though.
Sackoff (McIntosh,Goff) like Brangelina.
Oh I'm sure he's a good kid..and yes his comments are funny..
No matter the outcome, are we going to work tommorrow?..We might all be walking around all day like somebody shot our dog, but geez life goes on..This “CPA” kid is funny!!..Get over it and enjoy the comments he’s made..They are extremely funny!!

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