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Lots of links this week. Funny how a struggling team that's lost two straight games generates a lot more media buzz than a team that easily wins five straight. And Giants fans wonder why the Jets typically get heavier media coverage.

Probably the biggest off-field storyline this week is the unprecedented showdown between New York and Philadelphia. It kicks off Saturday night with an early-season game between the Knicks and the 76ers. The main events come on Sunday, as the Giants-Eagles game has been moved up to 1 pm to accommodate Game 4 of the World Series between the Yankees and the Phillies. Hopefully Monday will be a very happy day in Gotham and a very, very sad one in Philly. Now to the links:

Eli Manning's Struggles

Jeffry Chadiha at ESPN saw lots of questions and no answers in the Giants performance against the Cardinals. One of the problems that both he and Matt Mosley saw was Eli taking too long at the line of scrimmage, resulting in a few delay of game penalties and a general sense that Eli was out of rhythm.

Steve Serby of the NY Post thinks the problem is that Eli needs some help.

Personally, I think the real problem with Eli is that I jinxed him by acknowledging that he was having an MVP caliber season and was one of the top QB's in the league before the Saints game. Maybe I should start calling for the Giants to bench Eli and draft a new QB of the future to replace him...it worked pretty well last time I did.

Giants Sliding

A few more takes on the Giants two-game slide:

The AP gathers a few quotes, including this one from Shaun O'Hara that more or less sums it up:

"I could come up with 100 words to describe how upset and disappointed we are," center Shaun O’Hara said. "With this team, we hold ourselves to such a high standard. We were upset with our play after some wins early in the season, but to lose at home like we did last night, really, we think that is unacceptable. That’s the standard we set, and we know we can play better, and that’s the thing that is frustrating. At the same time, we also know we are a good team."

Vinny Ditrani of NorthJersey.com finds some positives from the loss to the Cardinals, pointing out that unlike the Saints game, the Giants weren't totally outclassed. Little victories, I guess.

Looking Ahead

The Giants are using the playoff loss to the Eagles last year (and Donovan McNabb's uncharacteristically classless move picking up the phone on the Giants sideline) as motivation going into this weekend's game. There's definitely no love lost between these two teams, and they almost always play memorable games. Hopefully this one ends up more like the 12 sack game or the Sehorn bobbling interception game than "the fumble" game (more on that later).

Fred Robbins says the Giants are putting last week behind them and are ready for the Eagles:

It’s a good time to play the Eagles. A win would cure everything. We’re playing a division opponent, a good rival and it will be an intense game. That’s a good way to get back on track, stop all those sad faces in the locker room. And you can’t let the losses pile up, especially in the division.

Other News

  • Kevin Boss says he didn't get a concussion from the (uncalled) helmet-to-helmet hit on Sunday. Definitely good news.
  • Apparently Eli Manning gave Peyton a few pointers about Steve Spagnuolo's defense. Spags joked that Eli should have at least given him some pointers on how to stop Peyton. I've gotta say, I love that Eli and Peyton are close, but was this really necessary? The Colts are probably the best team in the league and the Rams are probably the worst. Peyton probably could have won this one if he'd spent the last two weeks binge drinking and played the game behind the '58 Colts offensive line.
  • Finally, the NY Times' 5th Down Blog continues it's countdown of the greatest moments in Giants Stadium history. Coming in at #10 is the aforementioned "fumble" game. Definitely the low point of Giants history, but it ended up leading to the changes that turned the Giants into Super Bowl winners and one of the better run organizations in sports, so it wasn't all bad. Plus, without that play maybe Herm Edwards never becomes a 2-time NFL Head Coach, and I think we can all agree: the entertainment that brought us was well worth it.

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That 2007 Kudos & Wet Willies is great

People Ed loves that he is now less in love with:

-Amani Toomer
-Lawrence Tynes
-O Line

People Ed did not love but now loves more:

-Eli Manning
-Steve Smith

Granted that was nearly two years ago, but quite interesting just to look at.

by brisulph on Oct 28, 2009 7:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought that was funny too...

I think CJ deserves a kudo for pointing out that Joe Flacco would be good too. Better than Eli? I dunno, but in 1 and almost 1/2 years, Flacco has shown a lot.

..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...

...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.

---Carl

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 28, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's always funny

to look back at some of the things you write and see how they turn out. Sometimes you look brilliant. Sometimes you look, umm, less than brilliant. By the way CJ, you’re fired! Just kidding, of course, Good stuff.

by Ed Valentine on Oct 28, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

2009 will be remembered as the year of Ed's Jinx

I remember thinking as I was reading that, “uh oh, that Ed just f-$%&-ed up the rest of the season!”

Or maybe just a couple of bad games. And the Saints wanted it more, and the Cardinals…well…give them 15-16 chances, they’ll kill you.

Big game on Sunday. Place of Eli’s biggest 4th Qtr comeback (is that considered jinxworthy?)

by StubsNY on Oct 28, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I knew I remembered calling for Flacco back then, but I didn’t realize it came after that Buffalo game. It was fun reading the comments there. But I think everyone felt the way you did at that point. What’s funny is that none of us realized we had just witnessed the turning point that would end in a title. Just goes to show you how little regular season results really mean – just gotta get into the dance.

Also, I said somewhere else on that post that we should “rest up the players and let New England get their history” (or something like that)…glad Tom C. didn’t take my advice.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Oct 28, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

the comparisons between Smith and Tim Carter are pretty funny in retrospect

but at the time, it was pretty frustrating.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Oct 28, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eli's hurt

plain and simple. We don’t realize it, like Justin Tuck, cuz he goes out there and for stretches seems like the same Eli.

He’s not. He’s gonna have to fight these next two weeks. I don’t even know if the bye will help, but I kinda doubt he’s the same player the whole year.

Hopefully he figures out how to cope and compensate (of course without injuring something else)

..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...

...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.

---Carl

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 28, 2009 7:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

He hasn’t been the same player since the injury (OAK game doesn’t count … they didn’t even show up).

by potroast on Oct 28, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

He threw the ball fine against OAK and why would that not count? On some of those long pass plays the past 2 weeks he had plenty of time like against OAK he just missed. He always goes through streatches where he is innacurate and agianst the Cards he was also throwing off his back foot a lot because guys were coming up the middle. He always does that when he’s pressured up the middle, that’s how he avoids big hits and injuries. If the o-line does it’s job he’ll be more insync and in-rythm

by Landeta on Oct 28, 2009 9:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree Free..

Eli is hurting more than what we are being told..You can tell..He is having big time problems planting that foot when he throws..We have all talked about this type of injury he is suffering from..and some of us have had it..it doesn’t go away overnight. That injury could be our season..I know I’ll get beat up on this comment, but I am leaning towards starting Carr so Eli can stay off of that foot and let it heal. Get him to 100% again. He always has had a tendency to throw the ball high, but now he is way off. He’s a tough kid and I admire that, but sometimes you need to just give up and get better..We are going to need him healthy down the road.

by Bobbiblue on Oct 28, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

You should be beaten up for this comment

Eli, even hurt gives us our best chance to win. Even more, he’s lucky in Philly. Carr could win, but I wouldn’t start him

by StubsNY on Oct 28, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying that...

Eli’s not THAT bad right now.

In no way does the Eli right now not give us a chance to win, much worse behind David Carr.

He’s been off a bit, and maybe its not the injury like Landeta said, maybe its just a bad stretch (he WAS a machine tho).

Yet, most of the balls have merely been a touch out of reach. Others, like the dropped ball by HAM against the Cards…are simply things that are not Eli’s fault, that ball was perfect.

..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...

...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.

---Carl

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 28, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great stuff cj and of course...

you PLAY to WIN the GAME

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 28, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Just love this line cj … “Peyton probably could have won this one if he’d spent the last two weeks binge drinking and played the game behind the ’58 Colts offensive line.” Nice job.

by potroast on Oct 28, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Peyton and Eli

Peyton should have given Eli some tips on how to beat the Cards given how the Colts ripped them apart earlier this year.

by G Fan in England on Oct 28, 2009 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Peyton did

it was throw deep on DRC just like I did . . .DRC was ready it did not work

by Landeta on Oct 28, 2009 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It helps when you have Reggie Wayne

on the receiving end.

I think it was Reggie Wayne anyway

by Willgfass on Oct 28, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the posts about Eli from 07

I was not a member of this blog back then but I was advocating a lot of the same things that were being mentioned, bring in veteran and draft mid-round project. What’s funny they actually did that after the SB win with drafting Woodson and bringing in Carr.

by Landeta on Oct 28, 2009 9:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Peyton binge drinking...

“CUT THAT MEAT, CUT THAT MEAT!”

by John W on Oct 28, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Close...
“I could come up with 100 words to describe how upset and disappointed we are,”

Unfortunately, he only came up with about 70 words. Keep working on that, Shaun.

by rzor on Oct 28, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

What do you expect....

from a Rutgers grad?

(Just kidding, I’m an alum of that fine educational institution myself)

by GiantFanInPackerLand on Oct 28, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

A win Sunday rights the ship

Everything goes away the Giants can beat the Eagles. Simple as that, really. That’s why I’m not worried…. yet.

And I’ll be traveling and won’t be able to watch the game at 1… let’s go GIANTS!

by Jsz on Oct 28, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

and PS

didn’t we win a close game in Arizona last year, and then they went to the Superbowl? Just saying.

by Jsz on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beat the Eagles

I agree completely, a win Sunday wipes away the last two ugly games into insignificance. It will be 6-2, still atop the beast, and a bye to rest up. A loss, however, is a tail-spin, two-weeks of ‘whatsthematterwith’ and worry

by StubsNY on Oct 28, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn't stand losing 3 straight

I may just pull a Sanchez and start crying

by Willgfass on Oct 28, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

NY vs Philly

Giants/Eagles and Yanks/Phillies in the WS on the same day? Is it silly to consider it the biggest sports rivalry day between the 2 cities ever?

by potroast on Oct 28, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

that would be too much.

I mean, the Rangers playing Boston at 1:00 isn’t exactly the MLB rivalry between the 2 cities cuz of the whole different division thing, but even that’s a little much.

..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...

...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.

---Carl

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 28, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

the funny thing is....

The Knicks play the 76ers on Saturday in NY. Big weekend for NY/Philly sports battles!! Too bad the NHL didn’t schedule the Flyers against one of the NY teams!

by gametime56 on Oct 30, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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