New York Giants News & Notes: No Need to Panic
by cjmulrain on Oct 21, 2009 1:01 PM EDT
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Tom Rock of Newsday throws some water on the fire, pointing out that the Giants have recovered from bad losses before and that one bad loss to the Saints won't define their season. I agree with him completely.
There's plenty of reason to think the Giants will be able to return to form on Sunday. They do it rather routinely. In 2007 they were beat up by the Vikings, 41-17, at home. Two-and-a-half months later they were Super Bowl champions. And last year they fell flat against the Browns. After that they won seven straight games and established themselves as the premier team in the NFL (even if it was a bit premature for their liking).
It's not about losing, it's about handling the loss. Linebacker Danny Clark compared it to hitting the refresh button on an Internet browser each week.
Hixon Sets Giants Record
In spite of the turmoil surrounding him, Domenik Hixon had a banner day in his first game back from injury, becoming the first Giant to gain 300 total yards in a single game. He was obviously helped by all the kickoff returns the Giants defense let him receive, but with a few long returns he definitely earned the distinction. Congrats, Domenik. Also noted in that article, Hakeem Nicks became the first Giants rookie to score a touchdown in 3 straight games since 1950.
McKenzie's Injury Not That Bad?
The Giants won't release the severity of right tackle Kareem McKenzie's injury, but indications are that it isn't as bad as originally feared, and McKenzie may be able to play again this Sunday against the Cardinals. That's good news. Also good news, it sounds like Chris Canty, Michael Boley, and Aaron Ross should all be available after the bye week, if not the week before for Canty. That must be especially welcome news for Canty, who has been frustrated by his inability to get on the field since the season opener.
Looking Back & Looking Ahead
Mike Garafalo reviews rookie William Beatty's performance replacing Kareem McKenzie last week and looks ahead to the Giants matchup with another high-flying offense this weekend against the Arizona Cardinals.
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Great stuff CJ.
I gotta say Beatty was a great pick. I think he’ll slide in seamlessly when his number gets called to replace Kareem permanently.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Moss
Does this guy really need to be on the active roster? With Hixon back he really fills no spot. Personally I’d rather see Ramses “the Pharaoh” Barden get a chance. He was much more impressive in training camp and has much more of an upside with the exception of the kick return. I understand he did not play a high level of competition in college but neither did Jacobs and he got his opportunities as a rookie to refine his raw talent…
DB
by DukBudr on Oct 21, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Moss....
shouldn’t be off the “active” list….he should be off the team!!!
cut the frickin’ umbilical cord already!!!!
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
by andiamo708 on Oct 21, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
before we get
the inevitable “moss made a great catch” argument, a spectacular catch sure didn’t save tyree’s job and neither should it save moss’.
by cntrlalt on Oct 21, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Tyree's...
Was just a little more spectacular.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and tyree could actually catch punts....
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
by andiamo708 on Oct 21, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
opposed to letting them roll to the 1 yard line before getting downed by the opposition.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
by andiamo708 on Oct 21, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Hoot.."Truth Hurts"
I think somebody wrote a song with that title..was it Moss?..lol
by Bobbiblue on Oct 22, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got that right Tito!!
That was the greatest catch I ever saw in a Super Bowl..It will forever be on the highlight films..I do wonder why they didn’t keep him versus Moss..There has to be a reason, but I’ll be darned if I can figure it out..So far, Moss has been a major liability..Tyree was an asset..I just don’t get it…but I am not a coach, just a fan for 47 years.
by Bobbiblue on Oct 22, 2009 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darren Sharper
Wouldn’t it be weird if every time we got blown away by a team that Sharper was on would lead to a SB victory?
by John W on Oct 21, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i wish dude
his face is back on Eli’s dartboard
"Manning.... lobbs it! Burress, alone! TOUCHDOOOWN NEW YORK!"
by mahmoodzaky on Oct 22, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eagles QB video
I have pinched this from the BGN site!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omxRiHXKy94&feature=player_embedded
by G Fan in England on Oct 21, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm actuallly not worried about our Offense at this point..
I am extremely worried about our defense..and I can’t understand it what in the heck is going on with that unit?!?..They are playing as though they are all knee-deep in mud!
by Bobbiblue on Oct 21, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
its not “that unit”… thomas made a few mistakes but he’s not experienced, i’m not worried about him. i’m not worried about dockery either, he’ll rebound from his bad game. I’m worried about michael johnson and that piece of garbage texans castoff CC Brown. the TEXANS defense didn’t think he was good enough to play for them.
"Manning.... lobbs it! Burress, alone! TOUCHDOOOWN NEW YORK!"
by mahmoodzaky on Oct 22, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
The game of football requires execution from the Offensive “Unit” and the Defensive “Unit”..The Defensive “Unit” stunk across the board..period…No rush, no pressure, no pass defense, no linebacking…nothing. I find it hard to believe your comment about a couple players making “a few mistakes”…that entire unit stunk..not just Brown, all of them. They made Brees look like the league MVP…Now having said that I am confident that as of Monday TC has been kicking ass and taking names all week and we will see our defense (the one we are used to seeing) show up this week.
by Bobbiblue on Oct 22, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well the reason I say that is because Webster definitely did not stink, he had that PI called on him when it should not have been. Dockery was rusty and it showed in the mistakes he made. CC Brown stands out from the unit because he sucked much more than anybody else, lol… he had a team-high 15 tackles because Brees kept going back to him, over and over. Thomas made a few mistakes, and I can’t even remember if Bruce Johnson was in or not. As far as the D-line goes, I’d agree with you that they as a unit did not play well. They couldn’t get anything done against that O-line. And one thing we know is that Boley was a huge pickup in the offseason because Clark and Pierce cannot defend a good TE or RBs. Clark got smoked on that TD to shockey… then they started putting Thomas on Shockey, leaving Lance Moore covered by Dockery/ CC Brown… thats when things started to get disgusting.
"Manning.... lobbs it! Burress, alone! TOUCHDOOOWN NEW YORK!"
by mahmoodzaky on Oct 22, 2009 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear what your saying..mah
The point I make is that if all eleven guys don’t do their job, then we’re doomed..A couple of them doing a good job doesn’t matter when you get to the net bottom-line..If only two guys showed up and did a good job and nine others didn’t..we lose..I do respect what you are saying, but we need the engine running on all cylinders..Two out of eleven is not a good thing, it results in what happened..a beating..I know at this point we are beating a dead horse, but to be honest in 47 years I have never seen our defense play so poorly..
by Bobbiblue on Oct 23, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our (Your) G-men
I have refrained from commenting for several months. Actually the last time I did was to express my heartfelt sympathies on the tragic loss of the great Eagles DC, Jim Johnson. That my friends was a tragedy, and one befit of tears and profound sadness. After pouring over the pages and pages of comments, mostly exclaiming the incredible pain our fan base has been suffering because of the loss to the Saints last week, one would imagine that the season was over and the Giants banished to purgatory. Fortunately, several savvy and sophisticated professional media see it for what it is and I agree heartedly agree. The Giants lost a game! Thats it! No lives lost! No unrecoverable side effects!
They were beaten, badly beaten, by an excellent team that was extraordinarily well prepared, and who executed a brilliant game plan to perfection. Well known and well documented chronic weaknesses in the secondary and the less than speedy linebacker corps were exposed. However, an interception by Corey Webster on the opening drive, and two better placed passes by Eli in the first half (which he makes most of the time) and its a totally different game. Would the Giants have won? It doesn’t matter. The game is over. Just one game. No different from the back to back meltdowns by the defense to Dallas and Green Bay in 2007, or the Vikings and Browns games of recent memories.
The Giants are a great team. They will likely lose other games this year, and maybe again give up 30 or 40 points. But they are well coached and they are professionals with enormous pride. They will study game tapes and they will learn and correct. Perhaps they may even learn to better adjust a non functioning game plan in the second half. Mark my words. They will fix their problems. Barring any major injuries they will win the NFL East! They will likely compete in the NFC Championship game, maybe even at the Dome against the Saints. If they do, I can assure you that the result will be vastly different. They may not win, but I think they will. Giants football will return, and we will bear witness to the brand of football which won them a Super Bowl. Great running from Jacobs and Bradshaw, a matured Pro Bowl caliber QB named Eli, and a defense that will again reinvent itself as the best and most dominant in football.
Take heart Giants fans. I lead you not astray. Also never forget how wonderful this website really is. It is the best any team in the NFL has to offer. You have so much to be thankful for and look forward to, starting with next Sunday night.
Lets leave the tears for something that really merits our grief, like the loss of the great Jim Johnson. We are fans of the greatest team in football and we should always remember that.
by CPoster5 on Oct 21, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
if we ever need to be led into battle
you’re our guy.
"Manning.... lobbs it! Burress, alone! TOUCHDOOOWN NEW YORK!"
by mahmoodzaky on Oct 22, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a great post Cp..
Yes first, the death of Jim Johnson was a sad loss for the NFL and of course his family..The game lost an outstanding innovative defensive mind..and he was one tough, courageous man..with all the pain and suffering he was going through, he refused to leave until the bitter end..To me, even though he was an Eagle.. he was the “LT” of coaches..Never gave up, he ignored pain and willed himself to do the job.
Second, yes the Saints game is over and it certainly won’t be the last loss we face for sure..I believe the bad taste from this game was the poor performance from our defense..We are not used to seeing that. Years ago, Sam Huff would run off the field and tell our offense: “Hold-em!!”..Now we saw something we are not accustomed to seeing, a lackluster defense last week..But that game is behind us and they are going to right the ship…and we’ll get back to playing competitive on both sides of the ball. I hate it when we lose, but if we show up and play hard it is much easier to deal with a loss. We posted 27 points, and if you close your eyes and think about the past history of our team, 27 points meant victory…Anyhow they’ll fix this and move forward again…starting Sunday.
by Bobbiblue on Oct 22, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd make this my sig.
But I think Carl says it best anyway.
Giants….NUMBAH ONE!
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 22, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 22, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wall of text
TLDNR
oops I crapped my pants!
by TheWenz on Oct 21, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hixon and Nicks
They are both now in the roles they are most comfortable with.
Hixon has nearly more punt return yardage in one game than Moss had in the first 5!
As for kick returns he has approaching double the average.
Nicks is looking really good – that was a nice crossing pattern for a big gain against the Saints when the game was still on the line and he blew by the coverage on the TD even if it was in garbage time.
Now we just need Canty and Boley to return over the next couple of weeks and Ross towards week 12 and we will be in good shape.
by G Fan in England on Oct 22, 2009 6:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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