A few notes to make you feel better today

by Ed Valentine on Oct 21, 2009 7:51 AM EDT in News Comment 53 comments

Yes, our New York Giants have some things to iron out after Sunday's loss. But, here are a handful of stories meant to remind you that life is good as a fan of the 5-1 Giants.

Of course, you know about the Jim Zorn debacle in Washington, right? Well, from the perspective of being a fan of a rival NFC East team, this story gets funnier every day.

Tuesday Rich Gannon told Redskins owner Daniel Snyder flat out that he needs to fire personnel chief Vinny Cerrato.

"Cerrato has not done a very good job there. They have not gotten enough of a return on their investment. I really question their philosophy on how you build your team. They spent a lot of money on high-priced veteran free agents. They've made some mistakes, some costly mistakes, and they haven't done a good enough job with the draft and player development. That's really where you build your football team. So this is a team that's really in shambles right now. I told the owner -- this is amazing, I'm sitting there talking to Dan Snyder -- I said, 'You need to have leadership, structure and discipline at EVERY level of your organization. And I think that clearly right now they have some issues."

The fact that Snyder has to be told this is part of the problem in D.C.

As for Zorn, we know Zorn has had his play-calling duties stripped away. Now, this week he utterly botched the quarterback situation by failing to tell Jason Campbell he would start before announcing it on the radio. Another example of why Zorn never should have been hired in the first place.

Over in Philadelphia, coach Andy Reid is again drawing fire after Sunday's loss to putrid Oakland. The National Football Post has anointed Reid the league's worst game manager. They broke down, play-by-play, Reid's end of game decisions Sunday to support their case.

Stopping in Tennessee, where the Titans are 0-6, fans are not happy with Jeff Fisher. Not because he isn't a terrific coach, but because he showed up at a luncheon in a Peyton Manning jersey so he could "feel like a winner." Can't see TC doing something that dumb.

In Cincinnati, did you see that Ocho-Selfish-O has launched his own IPhone app. Yep, that's a guy concerned about winning.

Consider these things and you have to realize life is pretty good as a Giants fan right now.

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How to avert crisis mode

WIN SUNDAY NIGHT!

…Cardinals are very similar to the Saints. We beat them, I can say with relative assurance that the Saints game was a blip on the radar.

Hopefully we can get some peoples back on that defense too. I really don’t think they’d hurt things….

..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...

...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.

---Carl

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 21, 2009 8:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cardinals

their defense is nowhere near as good as the Saints though. They have the #1 ranked rush defense (the Saints are 5th), but the #31 ranked pass defense. I expect Eli to pick them apart. And the Giants have been able to run against “great” run defenses before, like the Ravens last year.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Oct 21, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Apparently...

Running is not an option when you’re down 14 in the first quarter…I’m more worried about our D against this high flying offensive attack.

"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sure they will send

Fitz streaking down the field a few times on Sunday. If we can shut down Fitz and stop the run, we’re in good shape. Easier said than done of course.

LET'S GO G-MEN

by I_Formation27 on Oct 21, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Corey

It would be nice to see Webster glue himself to LF and show that Sunday was an anomaly and he really is among the elite CB’s.

Of coure, it wouldn’t hurt to have better safety help than was given Sunday too.

by Jaybat on Oct 21, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

One game

does not a loser make. Our Giants, couches and players need to get back to the film room and study, study and study, play smarter and with more intensity.
Just remember how and who we beat in the last two super bowls.

by Olddiehard on Oct 21, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i know it was an innocent typo

but man, do i want a coughlin couch.

by catsmeat84 on Oct 21, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coaches coush

Thank you, I see we have an spelling bee among us, I would like his couch too.
Hope he had his mind on the game plan more than his couch.

by Olddiehard on Oct 21, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What we need to do is...

…step up and make big plays. :)

by Step up and make big plays on Oct 21, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Those news items overblown?

Fisher wore a Peyton jersey as a joke & as a tribute to Dungy, his friend. And a QB found out he’s a starter through the media? I know these coaches are under fire, but if people take a step back for a moment, they’re really not a big deal.

by potroast on Oct 21, 2009 9:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

I know, pot

But just trying to have a little fun with them.

by Ed Valentine on Oct 21, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I get that

It wasn’t directed at you. It was directed at the media that is not getting that they are blowing it out of proportion.

by potroast on Oct 21, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know

by Ed Valentine on Oct 21, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And in the Titans case … their fans.

by potroast on Oct 21, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

how would you have felt

if after the 2006 season, Coughlin showed up somewhere wearing a McNabb jersey?

by cjmulrain on Oct 21, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Quite honestly.

I would be more than upset.

"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's different

TC hadn’t proved anything as a Giants coach. Fisher is obviously a top tier coach that is 1 yard away from being a SB champion with THAT team. He has been the rock of that franchise. And they want him fired? I think they should be careful what they wish for.

by potroast on Oct 21, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll bet Jim Fassell

is looking pretty good to the ‘Skins braintrust right now. Serves them right for how they strung him along like that and screwed him in the end (no pun intended), giving the job to Zorn. I’m no Fassell fan, but if/when they come callig again, I hope he tells them to go fvck themselves.

by MJ20 on Oct 21, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

you right ed!!!

after Sunday lose against the saints i felt my life was going to be over. i never seen our giants play the way that they did. no matter how much i don’t want to admit, where not perfect. we have a lot of work to do on the secondary and in our overall defense. i say we should become blitz happy. what do you think? or maybe a over load blitz on 1 side? sheesh i miss spagz defensive schemes. the man was a genius. get to the QB before the QB gets the snap. and for 5-1??? i think we can shake that off. there are plenty more games to come. and the giants will rise up and become champs once again

by old man strahan on Oct 21, 2009 9:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Blitz

The one thing I have not seen from Sheridan is that overload blitz, with a linebacker and a corner or safety coming from the same spot. I love that blitz, it’s impossible to block. Of course, the problem is this defense was built to pressure with four, and they have not been getting it done.
In Sheridan’s defense, it’s a Catch-22. You have to have pressure to help your weakened secondary. Yet, because your secondary is weakened, the blitz is insanely risky.

by Ed Valentine on Oct 21, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

But he needs to take a risk here and there…Blitzing Warner is a huge risk however..He loves a blitz..So this game is going to require our LBs getting back in coverage..with Brees they should have brought the house in on him..Warner thrives on it..So, it will be interesting to see what kind of defensive scheme our guys come up with this week…If they come up with a plan that makes up for what they should have been doing against the Saints and Brees, then we’ll get burned..I doubt they will they know they are preparing for a different style QB..but if they do, it’ll be a huge mistake.

by Bobbiblue on Oct 21, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didn't we see that blitz...

…in the Raiders game when TT got his sack and forced fumble? The RB had to choose between picking up Rouse or Thomas coming off the edge.

by Step up and make big plays on Oct 21, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sheridan

He has too take that risk in my opinion. Does he need to do it all the time? no but during the saints game it was clear the guys up front weren’t getting to brees. if CC is your weakness in the secondary then send him on the blitz. buddy ryan use to send guys and leave WR uncovered. i’m not saying Sheridan needs to get buddy ryan blitz happy crazy here but he does need to grow a pair otherwise he wont be around long.

by JG131 on Oct 21, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking about that...

If CC Brown is such a great big hitter, and lousy in coverage, why can’t we just send him on blitzes more often? Have him big hit the QB and rattle him up

by Willgfass on Oct 21, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's face it

we are all emotionally tied to the last result/performance!

If we had won 49-48 on Sunday we would be saying what great offence and what bad defence as compared to the bad defence and what about the playcalling we are saying now.

This compares to last week when it was great offence and great defence.

Given our expectation of the team we will not be happy unless we at least reach the NFC Championship game.

As Mr Kipling famously wrote in his poem

“If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;”

So let’s try and keep a level keel here. There may be better teams than us and there are worse teams than us – but on any given Sunday one team will win (as last week showed).

After all we will have that SB win over the Pats to think about forever long after the Eagles playoff loss last year has faded from our memory.

by G Fan in England on Oct 21, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Amen to that

by Bajaserge on Oct 21, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Andy Reid

I’ve always felt Andy Reid is his own worst enemy. 54 passes to 12 runs or something like that, is no way to play call. Is it any wonder that McNabb has been hurt so often in the last five years. But hey as a Giants fan I say keep it up.

by John W on Oct 21, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I was wondering

for all the hate for the Iggles and not only us, but sometimes their own fans. I was thinking this morning, when was the last time the Iggles had a loosing season?

by Bajaserge on Oct 21, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

2005

6-10. Prior to that it was McNabb’s rookie year, 1999

by cjmulrain on Oct 21, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you know

I thought it was longer but you are right

by Bajaserge on Oct 21, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea

it’s easy to forget that year b/c they’ve been so good pretty much every other year. That was the year after they went to the Super Bowl, and them sliding so far had a lot to do with the Giants winning the division

by cjmulrain on Oct 21, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what else does denovan need to injure?

by old man strahan on Oct 21, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Andy Reid and Michael Vick, for starters

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 21, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did you see

that video of McNabb and the voodoo doll on the BGN website?

by G Fan in England on Oct 21, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Link....

"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hope this works

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omxRiHXKy94&feature=player_embedded

by G Fan in England on Oct 21, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

HAHAHA

Garcia was classic. I always thought he sound a little fruity.

"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 22, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Until further notice....

around my dwelling, CC Brown will be called “Old Hickory” as he’s been smoked more than a Christmas ham. But seriously, getting the defensive line moving forward rather than backward would take a whole lot of preassure off of all the secondary, as would getting some of the injured back in the lineup. I don’t see this coming Sunday as being a repeat.

by Cranky50 on Oct 21, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Or how about "Bong" ...

as it rymes with “Thong”, the hilarious tag put on Dallas’s S Roy Williams (thong don’t cover much …)

by Shofner85 on Oct 21, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well I feel..

A) Washington is in a crisis that actually started when Snyder became owner.
B) Agree that Fisher was simply giving some respect (can’t believe they are 0-6)
C) This is my biggest concern..Against the Saints we revealed all of our weaknesses to every team we face down the road..Our guys need to slam THAT door shut this week and I have a feeling they will..They all know they were terrible..We have been there before and in recent years the team has quickly rebounded.
D) CC Brown is awful but not the whole problem.
F) That’s the grade I give the entire team..for turning a game that should have been very competitive into a debacle.

by Bobbiblue on Oct 21, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh by the way..

I intentionally, left out E)…Not appropriate for this forum

by Bobbiblue on Oct 21, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'm living in dc

and loving the redskins mess. this makes up for all the crap i had to listen to way back when they rehired gibbs and were destined to ‘return to glory’. what a joke.

and im glad reid is being called out again for his miserable game managing. actually, i hope they dont make a big deal out of it so he can continue screwing things up for as long as hes coach there.

dont get the ochocinco hate though. why cant he care about winning and have fun too? ochocinco is alright.

Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.

by kendynamo on Oct 21, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I hated him last year

Now that there winning, his antics seem harmless and a sort of funny.

by Willgfass on Oct 21, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

recuperating

I can’t even read the news for a few games after the Giants lose. It doesn’t make me feel better that the rest of the NFC East is a disaster. What we’re missing with Sheridan is passion and aggression.

by hopeforthefuture3 on Oct 21, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

just put vick

in the wildcat andy reid. hell throw a bomb in less than a second to the receivers who’ll be down the field in less than a second in maclin and jackson.

the jeff fisher thing was funny and for charity. he is human right?

I think Giants should have Nicks as the 3WR and Hixon as the 4th.

by TO. on Oct 21, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

They can't put Vick in a Wildcat!!!..

They need to formulate a “Dogfight” formation.

by Bobbiblue on Oct 21, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kendy..

I think Gibbs packed them in when he had to start dealing with that Jerry Jones wanna-be Snyder..Both interferring fools..Now he has Scorn-Zorn..They’ll rocket launch him soon the writing is on the walls..Maybe they’ll hire another dummy..Barry Switzer!

by Bobbiblue on Oct 21, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Eli is a must start this week

I’m taking the advice from nfl.com that Eli is a must start #1 QB choice in fantasy games this week as a sign that there are others outside our little Giants family that view last week’s loss as nothing more than an unfortunate blip in their season. GO GIANTS!

by telcochik on Oct 21, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Awe, poor Giants

We only got our butt kicked and the only good thing about that, we can correct our mistakes moving forward. But looking across the league, there are alot more issues involving those teams.

I mean, some teams are still looking for their first win and some teams still don’t have a QB, or at least one that can guide them. Even closer, in the BEAST, instability from the owner down to the coaching levels in Washington and Dallas (yeah Phillips, your walking on egg shells) and now Philly, what seems like an annual ritual of ripping Andy Reid or McNabb.

All we have to do is put the blinders on, fix a couple of things and at the end, take them off, look around and say, WTF happened? As far as i’m concerned, who cares what happened, just as long as we take care of our own business, we should be fine!

by Hootman on Oct 21, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Great comment Hoot..

Your right on..I made a comment earlier regarding our guys needing to slam the door on revealing our weaknesses..and I am confident they are fixing that this week. They are going to be wild animals this week!..They have shown us that the past few years..and if anyone out here doesn’t think TC is ripping his staff a new “bung-hole”..then they don’t know much about Coughlin..That man had blue flames shooting out of his ears last Sunday..Geez I wouldn’t want to be coaching for him this week!..He is certainly kicking butt and taking names!

by Bobbiblue on Oct 21, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

IMO, fans abroad need to relax and take a step back

I mean literally, prior to the Saints game, all we had to talk about was Tynes, or injuries. Then after the Saints game, all heck breaks loose and alot of negativity that the Giants DL is overrated, Blackburn sucks, CC can’t cover etc… Well, if i didn’t know any better, the whole defensive unit didn’t show up. People (myself included) pointed fingers at a few souls (like CC) to make it a justification for their opinion.

But is there substanctial evidence to suggest that all is true? I don’t think so. Though with CC, he probably or is a liability in coverage…check! A non-existent 4-man rush, perhaps this is too frequent and teams are changing their pass-pro assignments, alignments etc… Subtle little adjustsments the OL are doing and using to our aggressiveness to their advantage?!

Are there any answers out there? Yes, but were going to need patience. Boley should be back in two weeks, Canty’s return at sometime will help with a healthy DL rotation, CC, well he needs to hit the books and learn from this. Putting himself in a better position to succeed. Butler wasn’t the greatest of athletes, but knowing where to be was an asset of his. Hoping i’m right, a fixable solution!

Though i didn’t mention Ross or Sintim, they are another two reasons to feel optimistic too. We just have to take this from game-to-game, or week-to-week! Our offense is here, Hixon is back on ST’s and now we’ll see how the defense will respond!

by Hootman on Oct 21, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sad if I was a Redskin's fan

I don’t need to state the obvious, but the Redskins are not a well run organization. I also hate to play the role of Monday Morning Quarterback, but I can’t help but to think back to the first week of the season, reading BBV articles leading up to the week 1 game vs. the Giants. It seemed that many fans and bloggers felt confident that the Redskins were going to be the ‘sleeper’ team in the NFC east (Ken from Hogs Haven had them at 10-6). Obviously we have the luxury of hindsight, but I still can’t help but feel bad for any disilussioned individual that thinks a team led by Jason Campbell is going to emerge out of the NFC East anywhere but at the bottom. With all due respect he is not a good quarterback, and regardless of what team he was on and what devision he was in he’d find himself spooning Dan Snyder in the basement. It’s funny to think that the alternative to Jim Zorn at the time was Jim Fassell. I almost don’t blame Snyder.

by pataroons on Oct 23, 2009 1:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The problem with both the Redskins and the Cowboys

Soley rests on the interfering owners..They both think they are NFL caliber coaches..hey it is their money, so if that is what they want to do fine by me..But don’t think for one split second that Parcells and Gibbs packed them in for that very reason..Gibbs and Parcells are guys that are not going to put up with that crap..Now Snyder and Jones have their “puppets” in place..Zorn has the potential to be a good coach, but can’t..Phillips does not..He has already proven that..but Jones and Snyder get to play with their toys..and if that is what they want to do with their money.. fine.

by Bobbiblue on Oct 23, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs