Positives to take away from the Saints game.
I know it might not seem like it right now, but there were some things I took as positives from this game. It was obvious from the beginning that in this game, everything that could possibly go right for the Saints would, and the Giants were gonna have to scratch and crawl for every inch. With the momentum garnered from this game. I think the Saints will be regular season champions, and you know what? I'm just fine with that. We don't play well with that moniker anyway.
1. It's week frickin' 6.
As far as week six games in the NFL go, this Giants v Saints game was indeed billed as a big one, but in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't even close. When I looked at the schedule at the start of the season, I said to myself "Wow. if we play solid Giants football we can get off to a 5-1 start." I said 5-1 because I honestly thought there was no way we'd beat Dallas in their house for the opening of Jerryworld. But we did. I ask you now would you trade that win for a win against the Saints? I think not. If I asked you at the beginning of the year would you be happy with a 5-1 start with two divisional wins? You would say, "But of course." In other words, six weeks into the season, we're in really good shape, but I think most of us knew that already.
2. A crazy thought...byes help a team.
One of the biggest things that we really did not put too much focus on is that the Giants are beat up, battered, tired, and have played four out of their last five games on the road. The Giants are definitely Road Warriors, they just happen to be human as well. I'd like to see how the Saints would fair if they just finished playing three out of four on the road and had to come into the Meadowlands to face a Giants team that had two weeks to prepare for them. I'd be willing to bet the Giants could make them look just as silly.
3. Hakeem Nicks
Steve Smith is becoming one of the best slot recievers in the game. Mario Manningham has already had one breakout game this season, and has proven to be a reliable target. But look at Hakeem Nicks...five receptions 114 yards and a touchdown. Garbage time or no garbage time, it's clear this kid can play. He's been a YAC machine, and even though it was too late for him to be a force in this game...it's still very early in the season, and it looks to me like he's going to be a big target that Eli can rely on for the long road ahead. One more headache for defensive coordinators to lose sleep over, Hakeem Nicks has been in the end zone every week he's been healthy, and there's no reason to believe he'll slow down. As the season progresses, so should his chemistry with Eli. And if Smith, Ham, and Nicks all continue to play at this level, this defense might not have to be so stellar...although a PASS RUSH WOULD BE NICE.
4. Brandon Jacobs.
I don't know if you guys were seeing the same thing I was, but based on the comments during the game, I think we can agree on one thing...we abadoned the run way to early. Isaw a Brandon Jacobs that was running like Brandon Jacobs. I know he only had seven attempts, but with the 4.7 yard average he gained on those attempts, I feel confident in saying that our boy is back. I kept thinking to myself that Jacobs has to be hungry for a big game, and this would have been it...had we stuck with the run. He hit the holes the way we're used to seeing him hit the holes, he moved piles back they way were used to seeing him move piles back, and given different circumstances, this more than likely would have been his breakout game. Next week the league's leading rushing defense comes to town, but I have a feeling Jacobs is going to have a big day. As long as we don't dig ourselves into a 14 point defecit before the end of the first quarter, I think Jacobs will feed off the home crowd and keep his momentum going forward, taking some Cardinals down on the way.
5. Madden
The most obvious positive to take away from this game is my pre-season Madden Simulation. Madden had the Giants losing to the Saints, after a 5-0 start, only to finish the season 12-4 (splitting with the Eagles and Redskins, sweeping the Cowboys, and losing to the Chargers.) gaining the second seed in the NFC and eventually a re-match with the Patriots in the Super Bowl (which I have yet to simulate). So far, so good, Madden. The Saints can take this one, but when they lose to the Cowboys in the Divisional round of the playoffs, we'll be laughing last.
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Well I was on the ledge
but that Madden bit has me back inside the window.
Seriously though, points 1-4 seem pretty solid (Jacobs did indeed look good, as did Bradshaw). The Saints can be had with more running (clock control) and a better defensive effort, but that is a concern for other teams since we don’t meet them again this year (unless it is play-offs of course).
by brisulph on Oct 20, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The thing I think was most frustrating...
Was how easily they took us out of our game. With the first series on offense we were already playing catchup…
Hopefully Tom learned a lot about this team, I have so much faith him though, I really think the Cardinals are going to be in for a rude awakening when they travel to East Rutherford.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6. No injuries!
I think McKenzie is a simple slight groin pull
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 20, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A big HELL YEA to that.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the simulation tito...
I don’t know how we’re splitting with the Redskins…but I like it.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 20, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They came on strong at the end there...
In typical Redskins fashion, they tore off four straight to end the season finishing 8-8, narrowly beat out by Dallas for the last Wild Card spot.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
amen to THAT alternate reality
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 21, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey...
Why weren’t we in the road warrior whites on Sunday?
…DEFINITELY NOT Road warrior Uni’s…
Can’t believe I didn’t remember that.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 20, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If...
Animal and Hawk were healthy…we’d have none of these problems on defense.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
....? Animal and Hawk?
well…yea, we could definitely use James Lauranitis and AJ Hawk right now…..
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 21, 2009 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone needs to bone up on their 80's
WCW wrestler gimmicks. Well actually, don’t do that. It was a wrestling reference to the Road Warriors/Legion of Doom.
by brisulph on Oct 21, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
I remember the LOD. Mostly..I was a pup then and the parents turned off the TV when these guys were on…
I thought you had a nickname for Boley and Sintim or something…
…or did I just create that?
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 21, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
Yes.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 22, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Animal
is actually the father of former Ohio State (and now Rams?) Linebacker James Laurinaitis. So I don’t think this will stick. Oh yes — in the 80s and early 90s, I was quite the WWF fan — Wrestlemania 1-6 was a great time to be a kid!
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 22, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrestlemania 6.
Ultimate Warrior vs. Hulk Hogan…greatest match of all time.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 22, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed!
edging out WM3, Hulk slams Andre in front of 93,000 at the Pontiac Silverdome
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 22, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Vince McMahon....
How did you let it go so wrong?
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 22, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was the greatest.
the golden age of wrestling.
by wilddre22 on Oct 23, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ladder match
Shawn Michaels vs The Bad Guy, Razor Ramone
by njgiant on Oct 22, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iron Man Match
Shawn Michaels and Brett Heart…can’t forget about that one.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 22, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we're gonna get busted for non-NFL but
come on young fellas: From your generation, nothing touches Undertaker vs. Mankind cage match. One of the greatest WWF performances of its generation.
As for the old stuff, and to relate this to the NFL, how about Wrestlemania 2 Battle Royal with NFL stars?
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 22, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my my...
That wasn’t a cage match Simms, that was Hell in the Cell, and you’re right that was an all time great. But if we’re going to get into an NFL/WWF discussion, it starts and ends with Bam Bam Biggilo vs. THE LT at Wrestlemania 11

"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 22, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
winner gets an 8-ball
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 22, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMFAO
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 22, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That match was incredibly good
considering it had a football player in it. Seriously, LT clearly worked hard with Bigelow to get a decent script put together for that one, and practiced his stuff so as to not embarrass himself in there (other than being involved with professional wrestling of course).
by brisulph on Oct 22, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mrs. Foley's baby boy
That guy had no regard for his body. I think Undertaker wanted to stop that match, but Mick insisted on completing the match. That was a fall and a half Mankind took.
by njgiant on Oct 22, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read Foley's first book
and the chapter where he discusses that match… frightening and astounding at the same time.
by brisulph on Oct 22, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw the Taker-Mankind match
I have got it on a dvd cuz i was to little to actually see it. Wrestling now is all talk. It’s turned into a soap opera.
It would save the Giants Defence a lot of time if QBs just stayed down!
by ChuckyofNorris on Oct 24, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Noticed that as well
Also the Saints wear whites at home?? I thought there were only 2 teams that did that, the skins and the boys….
by GiantRB27 on Oct 21, 2009 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess they wanna be bunched in with the POSERS of the league...
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 21, 2009 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they didn't want the G-Men in white!
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 21, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont blame
them…Its a scary sight for an opposing team…..
by GiantRB27 on Oct 21, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jacobs promised 13-3
I still believe him
by Willgfass on Oct 20, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looking at your schedule
Your Giants still have some tough games ahead, including Arizona, Denver, Minnesota, Atlanta, Philly (x2) and 1 very pissed off Dallas team. That said, I think the Giants end up at least 10-6, more likely 11-5, and take the division.
Playoffs are too far off to do any predicting of rematches – anything could happen between now and then. But I’d love to see the G-Men in the Superdome again.
by HB-NOLA on Oct 20, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
most def...
I’d be happy with 11-5…I’m sure you Saints would be too, given the situations in each of our divisions, 11-5 is getting in with the division crown.
As for the tough games…they all are tough ahead. People can say Washington and Carolina may be the easy spots, but Washington is a division game and East games are never easy. Carolina? I think they’ll turn it around and may play their best football at that point…never know.
Saints definitely look tough….at home. You’re gonna need that home field cuz the way you struggled AT BUFFALO, Saints definitely feel good playing in that dome.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 20, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saints didn't struggle at Buffalo
It was just a different game plan. Saints rushed 38 times for 222 yards (5.8 ypc), and Buffalo had three snaps in Saints territory in the second half. They won by 20 points – that’s hardly struggling.
Considering the rest of the Saints schedule and trying to stay ahead of the Falcons, I might be a little disappointed if they end up 11-5. It might not be good enough to take the South, and almost certainly wouldn’t be good enough for home field through the playoffs.
by HB-NOLA on Oct 20, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was 10-7 going into the 4th quarter.
HOW that is not struggling….I dunno.
Again, congrats on the win. But you will come back to earth at some point. How you respond (like what will the Giants do to respond this Sunday against AZ) tells who you are.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 21, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i highly doubt
the saints are going to lose that many games.
my bet is that they finish 15-1 or 14-2
as for the giants. id rather have them playing the best football at the end of the season and squeezing into the playoffs then for them to roll through the season and fold in the playoffs. its only week 6. this game means nothing. in this league with the injuries and game plans any given team can beat any given team in the right situation. playoffs are the only true measuring stick because that is when the elite teams and coaches are able to pull it all together.
by karamjitm9090 on Oct 20, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In my Madden
Giants went 15-1 the first season, then in the 2nd season lost in week 4 to an undefeated Saints team. The Saints got out to 8-0 but finished the season 11-5, while the Giants rolled off 9 straight wins, before finishing the season 14-2. I’d take that…
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
by cjmulrain on Oct 21, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I recorded the game
last night and I am going to watch it tonight.
I watched the first couple of minutes and I noticed right away, if the Giants got the ball first or made a stop on the first drive the whole complexion of the game would have been different. The Defense had chances to make stops but came up just short. Some 3rd and 3s and even longer 3rd and 6s….. The post to Hixon that almost connected and would have been a score.
This part of the reason I wanted to watch it again, I know there are positives to take away. The Giants are still a very good team and it is early yet….
by GiantRB27 on Oct 21, 2009 7:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah webster should have picked/knocked that pass down
instead lance moore makes a lucky catch and then dances like a schoolgirl. that definitely could have changed the atmosphere right away
by bmanley620 on Oct 21, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing positive...
You guys got asses handed to you by the eventual NFC champions I believe this year.
Soccer is for people to small and wussy for real football
Yankees and Red Sox ...buying your way into playoffs every year
by angryandy on Oct 21, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah...
I’m still gonna go with…
Running game looked good.
Passing attack just missed, but the rook looks like a stud.
Special teams played great.
No injuries.
Madden.
A negative times a negative equals a positive! Again!
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
it is October…. Plenty of football left to play.
Time to work out the kinks and get better.
by GiantRB27 on Oct 21, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
We are 5-1.
And we didn’t lose to the Raiders.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tito
Great Stand and Deliver reference
by DavidE on Oct 21, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank You :)
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe option 4 got 4 votes.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
4 eagles / cowboys fans at the site
sort of like the poll on the side: who will win the NFC East
you can count the WASH/DAL/PHI fans who visit by how many votes they got
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 21, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea...
given that basically anyone can vote in these things..I don’t even think you have to be a BBVer…can’t really take these too seriously.
Tho I’d like whoever did it to man up and give a reason.
If they are an Eagles fan…respond with we actually beat the Raiders….
Cowboys fan? Didn’t need OT against the Cheifs…
Redskins fan? I think the Giants could take the Lions….
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 21, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theres only a few
people who vote based on analytical reasoning. Jeff Feagles got voted for te Hall of Fame on BBV, but on any other site he would have been shut down.
It would save the Giants Defence a lot of time if QBs just stayed down!
by ChuckyofNorris on Oct 24, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how could you not mention
hixon? that was probably the best thing to take out of this game. bench moss and now we actually have a dangerous return team
by bmanley620 on Oct 21, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice to see Hix finally healthy.
I hope he stays that way.
I still think he’s a good option as a WR and should remain worked into that.
Tho, I did think he was used too much on Sunday…countless times did I see the ball being thrown to #87.
Being the “4th” WR..is not a bad thing.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 21, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
he is so dynamic in the return game….. I am so glad to see him back there doing what he does best. I like him as the 4th option but him as a #1 or 2 is an oversight.. remember that talk from the offseason and into camp
by GiantRB27 on Oct 21, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea...
I thought he’d be the break out guy and the #1 too. I was way off on that.
I DO think he has the talent to be a #1 still, I just think he’s too injury prone and also a bit too much Devin Hester syndrome.
Talent is one thing, actually being it on the FB field..another.
Definitely better suited for the return game. He’s an EXCELLENT returner, always has been really.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 22, 2009 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When and if we play the Saints again
We hopefully have a healthy Boley, Sintim, Ross, Canty. Thats 4 starters on D. I would rather see Ross, CWeb, TT and M. Johnson and our nickel 5 Dockery who will playing better when he sees more game time. Thats four starters on D, or at least 3 pending SIntim/Canty in situational plays. Brees won’t have a Cant Cover Brown to expose. The Giants are a smart team and will learn from there mistakes. Lessons will be learned.
by wangstu13 on Oct 21, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hixon is good
but id stop before i call our return game dangerous.
on most kickoffs we get to the 20-30
those that hixon delivers are 50yarders.
but i dont think itl be dangerous until hixon proves he can score the return. but i think that relies more on the blocking. our special teams blocking on returns isnt exactly the best.
by karamjitm9090 on Oct 22, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
vs. Pats in week 17 in 2007
He has the potential.
by brisulph on Oct 22, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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