New York Giants news and notes: Big Blue still licking their wounds
Our New York Giants are still stinging from their embarrassing 48-27 loss to the New Orleans Saints on Sunday.
Here is a smattering of what the Giants are saying, and what is going on with the team, as they try to turn to the page and get ready for defending NFC champion Arizona this weekend.
Safety C.C. Brown thinks the Giants were too full of themselves.
"We pretty much got on our high horses, you know. We thought it was going to be another brush-through game and it was an eye-opener for us."
Newsday's Tom Rock thinks maybe Brown spent too many years playing for bad teams in Houston and doesn't know how a player on a good team is supposed to feel.
I think Brown needs a nickname. We had Elvis 'Toast' Patterson years ago. What should we call Brown, who obviously should have played 75 years ago when defenders didn't have to worry about pass coverage.
The Human Torch, since he keeps getting lit up? 'Bullseye Brown', since quarterbacks will be throwing constantly in his direction? 'Bad, Bad, C.C. Brown'? 'Can't Cover' Brown? Man, I don't know. The guy needs a nickname, though. I think I'm going with 'Bad, Bad C.C. Brown' until you guys convince me otherwise.
Of course, before we move on with other notes, I can't make the obvious 'Bad, Bad Leroy Brown' reference without giving you this from Jim Croce -- one of my favorite artists ever.
Other notes
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Giants vow to improve
From Newsday:
We just made some mistakes that we can't make, especially when you're playing a team of that caliber," cornerback Corey Webster said. "So we take the film, we take the whipping that they issued out, and we go back and start working hard and compete." - Eli Manning defends deep throws against Saints
A lot of Sunday night and Monday's discussion was about some of the deep balls Manning threw on third down against the Saints. Mostly, the reaction to those balls here at BBV was that the deep stuff was a mistake. Here is Eli's explanation.
"That’s just what the defense gave us. It’s not like we were calling plays to necessarily throw the ball down the field. We were calling crossing routes against man to man coverage where hopefully you are throwing the ball three or four yards and guys are just running away from defenders. That is the play that was called and then all of a sudden they pass it off, the safety sits down on the crossing route and now you’ve got a shot down the field so you take those opportunities," Manning said. "When you have opportunities where guys can run a post route and there is no middle safety I think you have to make those throws.
"When you go through your reads, I see a receiver down the field running free, you’ve got to take those opportunities when you get them. You don’t force it, but we had opportunities. We’ve got to connect on those. Those are plays we have been making and we’ve just got to hit those."
Sounds to me like Eli audibled to those longer routes. He just missed on the throws.
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Human Torch
would be better assigned to whoever he has to cover….or Hakeem Nicks.
I love Bad, Bad, C.C. Brown. Well, I hate him. But I love the name.
OMAHA!
OMAHA!
I'm going with. . .
“Cant Cover” Brown. Pretty much what he’s all about.
"We're only going to score 17 points?!" - Tom Brady
How about...
C.C. “One bad Game and everyone jumps on me like I’ve done this every week” Brown.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions
Number one Pass Defense going into the game.
Had to be doing something right.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
All I'm saying
Is lets not let one game dictate how we’ll play the rest of the season.
The Giants are 5-1 with C.C. Brown at safety. Is it really time to bench him after one poor performance, which can just as easily be blamed on the defensive front?
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I kinda of agree
He wasn’t the only one in the secondary that was awful, yet all the venom is aimed at CC. The Saints consistently went after TT and he didn’t do anything particularly well. Dockery was just as awful as CC (granted it was his first game back). The LBs in coverage were also awful (especially you Danny Clark … can’t wait for Boley to be back). Are all these guys terrible football players that need to be benched? No.
Now I don’t think CC is a pro-bowler, but I think the biggest issue is not getting pressure. That’s this defense’s bread & butter, yet they came up with a big donut this past weekend. And I also think we are seeing Sheridan take his lumps. He as much as the players needs to regroup from this game and step up.
"Cant Cover" Brown
this guy was horrible in the preseason against other teams 3rd and 4th stringers.
putting him in against the saints was like putting your baby in the oven…
The results are delicious?
Or the whole it is tragic and just plain wrong?
depends if you're from New York or New Orleans
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Thank you tito...
CC was just fine before this game.
We know he’s not the greatest..
But the way the Saints played Sunday, I doubt anyone from Kenny Phillps to Ed Reed would have had much of a chance of helping the Giants.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 20, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
FIST BUMP
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
If we had gotten pressure
the game would have turned out differently. I didn’t think it was so much as great Saints play as poor Giants Defence. And yes I say Defence because the Offence didn’t have a big problem scoring points(27 is a pretty good score.).
It would save the Giants Defence a lot of time if QBs just stayed down!
by ChuckyofNorris on Oct 21, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
the offense not converting
on 2 third downs early on and a FG on the third one…led to 14-3. ANother short drive,…..next thing you know it was out of hand.
Defense sucked, yea..if they got a few stops it could have helped obviously.
But a good offense can make up for a bad day for the defense..by keeping them off the field.
THe Giants failed miserably at that..
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 21, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
If the Giants don't fumble to end the half.
They win that game.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I think if they somehow. . .
Get a score on that drive, the outcome of that game will be very different. It would have been 20-27 or 24-27, and getting the ball back at half. Who knows?
"We're only going to score 17 points?!" - Tom Brady
that was teh game right there.
Even if that drive ends in nothing for the Giants…the game wasn’t as in the bag as it was there.
I don’t think they should have just kneeled it down….Eli with one minute left I at least thing a FG is a give no matter where the ball is spotted, nor the amount of TO’s left.
The one thing…not spiking the ball after the first completion. Why..>WHY!!!!? Eli decided to try and run a play…I don;’t know. It obviously backfired as bad as it could possibly backfire.
But yea….that TD the Saints then scored? Backbreaker. Giants were pulling it together…then the Saints tack on another one.
I got a good feeling they’ll learn from it.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 21, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The Giants have to play power football
That pathetic, west-coast BS down in New Orleans made them look like a bunch of kids doing their best impression of the New Orleans Saints, and doing a bad job of it.
Arizona has a similarly high-octane offense and Gilbride / Sheridan would dop well to learn from this.
Time of Possession. Run the ball. Stop the Run. Run the ball some more. Blitz. And run the ball.
You shouldn’t hit the panic button and start airing it out when the other team goes up 7-0. You should reassert your vision of how the game is going to develop with your own clock-killing drive.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 20, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions
Silver lining...
Hakeem Nicks continues to play exceptionally well and so is William Beatty. Looks like Reese struck gold again.
I was right about the deep plays
my quote from yesterday:
“but I want to point out that I’m not criticizing Gilbride. Honestly, that might have been designed to be a short pass, but Eli saw Smith break open and decided to heave it. In fact, that’s my suspicion (remember Eli’s quote about most of the plays not really being designed for Smith, but he gets open so Eli throws to him anyway).”
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Can't Cover Brown
Plays on his initials and makes the most sense.
That said, if he gets burned badly again, I say roll the name. Maybe it was just “one of those weeks” (not likely since he looked bad in the pre-season too, mind you).
Not audibles
Ed……I don’t see how you’re saying Eli audibled to those deep plays, he’s talking about an in play read of the safety sitting down on the crossing patterns and him seeing a receiver streaking down the field. The way Eli described it doesn’t sound like an audible.
Maybe one of those plays were some guy goes deep
but its not meant for him. In eli’s judgement’s defense, the guys were pretty open.
Either Eli just missed them, or the saints made good plays on the ball
I think you're right
Route adjustments, not audibles.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 20, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
either way
we missed them, and got beat down because of it.
here's an idea....
how about waterboarding CC??….i mean it was all his fault we lost. He’s terrible. the other 10 guys played so great…but CC lost the game for us.
c’mon Ed…he had a bad game. so did Dockery…who looked like a rookie out there. Eli didn’t play great…no pass rush… penalties.
singling out the new guy is a cop out…
what about the Bush TD when Osi jumped way outta position and let Bush run right past him??
we lost as a team….to an undefeated team.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
Andiamo
I’m not singling out C.C. I know Dockery didn’t play well, nor did anyone else on defense. I said that in my ‘Kudos & Wet Willies’ the other day. However, I have been telling you guys since training camp that Brown is a disaster in coverage. It’s why the Texans let him go. Before the Saints game Brown got by because he was on the field against inept opponents. Good teams will abuse him constantly, as the Saints did.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 20, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I diasagree.
Even inept teams can single out a disaster in coverage. Dwayne Bowe could have just as easily made a career day against Brown…had the Giants defensive line not got pressure on Cassel.
Good quarterbacks (like one Drew Brees) will abuse any and all players in our secondary, not just CC, if they have time to grab a coffee and finish there Sunday Crossword after the ball is snapped, which is exactly what happened against the Saints.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
point taken Ed...
but we knew what CC brown was before he even got here…good against the run, a hard hitter, and someone who needed help in coverage. Very similar to Rouse in fact.
IMO he would probably be better utilized at SS … not FS.
but while we’re over here making up names for CC, we might as well throw Osi, Dockery, and Clark in that group as well.
Danny “I’ve been washed up” Clark
Osi “can’t play the Run” Umenyiora
Kevin “I’m playing like I want Bruce Johnson to take my job” Dockery.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
LOL!!
How about we just say “The defense rests … until further notice.” Because the whole group pretty much took Sunday off.
Oh, and I agree with all of your nicknames.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 20, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed....
and ur right….CC played like a dog.
i guess i’m just still on edge from that loss.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
Hixon
Man, Hixon is a very good returner but was it me that Hixon was thrown to alot this game and he barely had any catches..
Hixon should not be a receiver, maybe when we go 4 wides, but should not be the main guy to be thrown too..
come on manning..get your boy Steve Smith the ball..
Eli..was throwing too high and missing some throws by 6 inches
..And he was in a domed stadium..He needs work along with the rest of them..The offense did post 27 points which when we had our traditional defense would have been more than enough to win..but our defense sucked worse..Like I said, I have never seen our defense suck so bad, ever.
Maybe he's not actually at 100% with the foot.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
another thing that gets overlooked.....
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 20, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
the pass rush didn't help........
he(eli) got hit a lot….
Phillips
Even if Kenny had played this game, i dont think we win. maybe the score is closer but if you leave a quality QB, untouched and all the time he wants to pick a part your secondary. somebody will get open.
by JG131 on Oct 20, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I knew the Giants were in trouble...
…when Peter King picked them to handily defeat the Saints. Just like he picked San Diego to beat Denver Last night.
I kinda like Bad bad CC Brown...
Until we can rename him “Kilroy Brown”.
I feel vindicated on my take on the deep throws too.
Pretty clear that they were throwing them because that’s what the defense was giving them. Defenses make choices, and good offenses take advantage of the opportunities presented, so I have no problem with that aspect of the game.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
Can't take credit for it...
but I saw “Good grief, CC Brown!” on the FO Audibles page and I thought it was pretty funny.
I think he had about as much success trying to cover a Saint receiver Sunday as Charlie Brown did trying to kick that football on all those Peanuts strips. Plus that was pretty much everyone’s reaction after each play he was involved in.
Some funny comments too from Texans fans and other AFC South fans about CC’s “skills”.
"Welcome to the wonderful world of CC Brown…. I just know you and your fellow Giant fans are going to love it. He’s the ultimate football player – a cross between Deion Sanders and Jeremiah Trotter. Unfortunately, that’s because he tackles like Sanders and covers like Trotter. Of all the God-awful defensive backs that have (dis-)graced the Texans secondary over the past five years, Brown is by far the worst… "
“I have to admit that the joy I find myself feeling that someone other than Texans fans finally knows the rage and agonising terror that is the experience of rooting for a team that starts CC Brown … I spent three years, every week and every off-season, praying to read that he’d been cut and replaced by a practice squad player/street free agent/homeless heroin addict/blind quadriplegic grandmother…Please don’t bother trying to convince yourself that this week was some sort of aberation. He really, truly is that bad”
“I’m a Colts fan. I can assure you that C.C. Brown is always like this.”
This is just some random postings, but I always find the FO crowd to be pretty sharp overall. We love to praise Jerry, and overall he’s brilliant but I don’t think the CC signing will be hailed as one of his better moves.
These are fabulous
Of course, I wish they weren’t written about a guy on the team I root for. But still, fabulous.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 20, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
This only further begs the question:
what did JR see in C.C.? Brown must have exhibited enough talent for the organization to go out and sign him during the free agency period.
Let’s see how C.C. responds to last week’s game. I would like to see him redeem himself rather than become Reese’s first real stinker of a personnel move.
by Step up and make big plays on Oct 20, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Brown
I think what Reese saw was that, at the time, he may have been the only free-agent safety available w/starting experience who the Giants could afford. It was a situation where there really weren’t many good choices, and the Giants had to have somebody.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 20, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you believe
after Sunday’s disaster we’re still the number one D in yards per game, 1st downs per game, and average yards per game? amazing.
ehhh….considering we played Wash, TB, KC, and Oakland, who have anemic offenses I don’t think it’s that amazing.
BUT…I’ll take it!
I think this was a wake up call and I think they’ll bounce right back.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
didn't mean it in that context
Feeble attempt at facetiousness. After Sunday, trust me, I’m not amazed!
by wilddre22 on Oct 20, 2009 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think arizona
is going to get abused. kurt warner is going to be in a world of pain
Trade Deadline...
Just like the Jets have called Mangini on a couple of occasions (5th pick in draft and B. Edwards) the Giants need to call Steve Spags and ask about safety Atogwe…its atleast worth a call.
by SportsDalaiLama on Oct 20, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions
well,
i get the "can’t cover “brown,but in honor of elvis”toast"patterson,how about this?c.c"3rd degree"brown!
derek de pinho
How about The Invisible Man
Because when it come to making a play on the ball, he is no where to be found.
As bad as this loss was....
The E-girls losing to Oakland was a worse defeat and will actually have a bigger impact as far as the division race goes. That should have been an easy one game pickup for them with the NYG loss. However…..
Near misses
While we did get beat down and blown out. I feel there were quite a few near misses…….while we’ve all talked about the deep pass misses, how come nobody is talking about the Interception that Webster missed that resulted in Lance Moore’s first reception of the game that I believe gave the Saints a big 3rd down conversion. I think the game could have been different.
Here's a couple
“That’s a first down Brown”…and “Gave up another Touchdown Brown”
Brown vs Patterson
If last Sunday is an indication, Brown has a LOT of improvement to do to be as good as the one we knew as Toast.
I must agree though
That we are calling out one guy when all ten others stunk..The whole defense stunk…I love the analogy about Brees having a coffee from one of the guys..Heck, he could have left to go thru the local McDonald’s drive-thru to get a Egg-McMuffin and come back in time to throw..He probably would have if not for the fact they stop selling them at 11am.
Haha Bobbi...
Here I am thinking “All right! Bobbi agrees we’re being a little harsh on CC…”
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
And than 20 minutes later...
This zinger.
Good show hahaha
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that one
But, I think I am sticking with ‘Bad, Bad C.C. Brown.’ Maybe just because I always liked Jim Croce.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 20, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah "If I could put time in a bottle"..
I’d wish for our ’86 defense…
With our 2007 D-Line
And this years QB + Receiving core.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes your right Tito..!!
Talk about “time in a bottle”!!haha…I wouldn’t remove Simms though..He’d have recievers to throw to and teach Eli the art of throwing in the wind..Dang we’d have a trophy every year with that combine group!!
I don't know Bobbi...
Eli’s looking like a stud this year…and with the chemistry he has with Smith, I’d have to give him the slight edge.
I only saw the end of Simms career though, and Eli’s my first real franchise QB, so I’m always taking his side haha
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 21, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
YA Tittle back in the 50's was a beast
Judging him on what i’ve read
Had the record for most TDs in a 14 game season
He never won a championship though with 3 or 4 tries.
One of our older bloggers probably know more and should say who’d they like best, having seen the trinity of Giants QBs.
Rams do a trade
with the Eagles!
Eagles get old LB Will Witherspoon for a rookie WR and a 5th rounder in 2010.
by G Fan in England on Oct 20, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
The Eagles are really hurting at linebacker..but wow!
What a price to pay!!..By the way are you going to the Patriots game G?
No
Just go to Giants games now!
Will try and watch the Cardinals game on TV this weekend – but at 1.20AM start means I will be back in bed very quickly if Warner picks on CC!
by G Fan in England on Oct 20, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
We are some fickle fans...and yes, I include myself
There is absolutly no love so CC this week and I’ve called him a name or two myself. During the crucifixion of CC Brown, no one has mentioned the Tynes has gone the last two games without a miss and that includes the 49 yarder right down the middle. Remember 3, 4 weeks ago when a lot of fans were calling for his head. All I’m saying is, let’s not kill Brown off just yet. He’ll get a little better when our pass rush comes back from vacation.
Nice
Good comment. Tynes, Hixon, Nicks, all deserve pats on the back.
The only way to go with this is simply this...
Tynes could have kicked 10 FG’s from 50 yards a pop, and the Giants still would have lost. Even down by two TD’s with successful two point conversions, it still doesn’t detract from the reality that perhaps CC was picked on?! He had 13 tackles for a reason. The Saints kept on moving the ball regardless of downs or distance.
Was CC part of the non-existent pass rush, or does he need to rely on it to be effective? Either way though, CC was more of a problem than what some want to believe. I hope i’m entirely wrong by ALL accounts, but this isn’t a light switch!
But given the usage, i would prefer a Tynes 75 watt bulb over a CC 60 watt (flickering) bulb that results in dim to dark results!!!
+1
Faith can go a long way.
I believe C.C. has never been in a spot light like this situation in New York, and he’ll respond accordingly.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 20, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You Guys Are Overanalyzing
Can we please stop with the psychoanalyzing. The Giants got beat by the best team in the NFL. Point. Blank. Period. This is not the same Saints team of years past, this is a team that can play on BOTH sides of the ball. We knew going in that they were going to try and put up big numbers. For as good as the Giants defense is, we’re missing at least 4 starters on defense, you don’t go up against Playoff caliber teams missing 4 starters and think you’re going to blow them out. We would have been lucky to escape with a win this weekend, they were at home, they were coming off of a bye and they had two weeks to prepare for us.
The shots that Eli took down the field were shots that 30 quarterbacks in this league would have taken. When you have your man open on on one deep, you take that shot…on your first possession in the first quarter, how do you know your defense is NEVER going to stop them? Remember, Corey Webster SHOULD have had an interception on that first drive, ball hit him in the hands, that would have changed the momentum. With the play to Steve Smith, if Smith lays out for that ball, it’s a touchdown…you can tell Eli adjusted and put less air because on the previous possession the Cornerback was able to catch up and knock the ball away. Both plays were the right decision in my opinion, however they look bad because again, the defense didn’t stop them.
I’m sorry, but this loss goes to the Defense. Just like in the past we’ve had to put losses on the offense. But the Giants could have scored 45 points and STILL lost. Do ya’ll realize how BAD that is? The only team that scored enough points to beat the Saints this weekend was the New England Patriots.
Bears in Preseason
Most folks say pre-season results don’t mean squat, and in some respects they’d be correct, but you can tell somethings about a team in the pre-season — bad habits being one. Bad habit I saw in the bears game (was there) no pressure on the QB, inability to cover RB’s catching passes out of the backfield, easily psyched out DB’s. I wrote about it too, but folks said I was just a pessimist. Nah. Just a Giants fan who doesn’t and refuses to, look at his team through anything less than an honest prism. The Giants one ‘real’ game before the Saints was against the dysfunctional, shit-coached Cowboys, a team that was begging the Giants to take the game away from them. Being a good, (though far from great team) the Giants did what they were supposed to do. Take away Eli’s semi-habitual moments of brilliance on the last drive — Giants lose the game to a team that happened to have the Gods rooting against them at the time. I love the Giants, have for forty years, but lets be real — this D is a major, major issue. The pass rush IS not what it was advertised to be and the DBs and LBs are easily deluded into mistaken complacency. Now, i will admit I was wrong about the WR’s in the pre-season. Smith, Manningham and Nicks are each special. But their are issues that can’t be overlooked on the defensive side that need major overhauling if we’re going to go anywhere beyond the first round in the playoffs, or even get there. Don’t count the Cowboys out. They are dangerous. So, what will I do this Sunday, seeing how I feel?
I’ll root for the Giants, cheer and curse and pound and kick and shout and send good vibes to the men in blue, just like I’ve been doing for 40 years, and always ready to exercise my fan’s right to criticize and moan after a loss, and gloat and honor after a win. I mean, it’s all vicarious triumph and loss after all, isn’t it then? Go Blue!
Well, "Toast" was a classic ...
and unfortunatley, “Thong” (doesn’t cover much) was pinned to that ex-Dallas safety Roy Williams already (and that would be perfect for old CC).
I’ll go with “Bites”, since that’s what he did every time Brees went play action (and why Dockery never had the deep help he was expecting).
UPS
How about UPS because we should be shipping him off to somewhere else asking, “what can Brown do for you?”…..suck
OL & DL's
Our OL and DL’s were not quit what they were last Sunday. Every play starts with these guys.
QB’s don’t have time if the OL isn’t there. Most opposing QB’s will have great day if the DL
didn’t show up.
our DL look like they werent even out there when we played the saints. and not to mention the saints dident have their probowl tackle . we shouldve blitz all day on that side.
by old man strahan on Oct 20, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
cc "dave" brown
at least it brings back painful memories
where have you gone, terry kinard.
Willie's decision was correct. It will always be the correct decision. He who has the power will always be correct. Don't ever forget that
Workplace haters
Isn’t it something, When the Giants are kicking ass no one at the work place have anything to say, when they do lose a game, everyone line-up at the cube talking smack. I guess that’s what you deal with when your team hardly loses.

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