New York Giants news and notes: Lawrence Tynes, Brandon Jacobs and more
There is lots of New York Giants stuff to talk about today. So, I hope you have some time on your hands as we wind our way toward the weekend. We'll go topic-by-topic.
Lawrence Tynes and his "shaken" confidence
If you play golf, which I do, you know what it is like to stand over a seemingly simple three-foot putt with a million thoughts running through your head and zero belief that you can actually put the ball in the hole. Or, to tee off and hit what feels and looks like a solid drive only to have it go 50 yards left or right of your intended target simply because you lined yourself up incorrectly.
These are the analogies I can draw with what seems to be going on with Tynes right now.
"His confidence is shaken, but the team has a lot of confidence in him. He just has to go out and make some kicks," said special teams coach Tom Quinn. "You fall into some bad habits at times and you’ve got to work yourself out of it."
Quinn said Tynes has -- somehow -- not been aligning himself correctly on his field goals. I can understand a weekend golfer screwing up his alignment, but I don't get how a a veteran kicker like Tynes can suddenly not know how to line himself up to kick a short field goal.
""Those are kicks that have to be made in this league. I have to make those kicks because in December and January those are going to be huge kicks, huge points, especially when you are playing some of those NFC East opponents. I am just going to keep grinding and I will make those kicks from here on out. It’s to the point where you just go to kick it. Don’t aim it, don’t try and guide it in there," Tynes said.
"It’s something I need to fix, for sure. It’s bothering me. I am letting the team down. Those are points that should be automatic on the board."
The slow start of Brandon Jacobs
Brandon Jacobs bristled Thursday when asked about the comments made by FOX commentator Tony Siragusa that he wasn't running hard enough. "Next question, please. I don’t want to talk about Tony Siragusa. Not at all. Not worth it," Jacobs said.
Jacobs said simply that he is trying to stay patient and wait for his blocks.
"I feel like I’m running the same way I was running last year. Getting a little bit smarter, being patient, let the scheme happen for me. You just can’t run in there and think that you can outrun your blocks," he said. "It is going to come together for me, I am not pushing it, I am not rushing. It is going to start popping open for me. It’s a long season."
Interestingly, it might be that patience that has been somewhat detrimental to Jacobs thus far.
Here is Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride discussing Jacobs first three games.
"I see a guy that is still energetic, is physical, is passionate about doing whatever he can to help us win. If there is an error that is slowing him down, it is because he wants to be perfect. He is trying to make the perfect read, if that is it. If there is anything, that would be it, he is just trying so hard to do everything perfectly," Gilbride said. "Sometimes you just have to trust your instincts and go out and play. But I certainly don’t see anybody that is tip-toeing."
FOX commentator Daryl Johnston, who was in the booth for Sunday's game against Tampa Bay, made a similar observation.
"He's such a unique style of running back that I don't think he's using his best asset, the things that separate him," Johnston said. "He's too big and too physical to be able to be stopped for two yards or less that many times (32 times in 58 carries). That's a guy who's looking for the home run, a guy looking for that big play."
My take: In the end, as long as Jacobs is healthy, I think his numbers will be pretty much what they have been the past couple of seasons. As for Sunday, there might be a couple of Kansas City defensive backs who will wish Jacobs hadn't spent the week answering questions about his running style.
Kenny Phillips update
Ernie Palladino has the details on safety Phillips, who made an appearance at practice Thursday following knee surgery earlier in the week.
"The surgery was quick (less than two hours), but the rehab is the most important thing. It’s one of the longest rehabs; they said it will be four to five months before I can run. They said it’s real boring; it’s like watching paint dry. It’s not painful, just long. I definitely want to get back to being 100 percent and get back on the field. I am going to do everything they say I should do.
"The surgery went well, all our trainers feel that this is something I can definitely recover from and come back 100 percent. So I am feeling good about it."
From tyrant to terrific, Coughlin perception takes new direction
This is a great piece by Mike Freeman of CBS Sports. My only question is, where have you been, Mike? Everybody else was writing this story two years ago.
Other Odds 'n Ends
- Both Fred Robbins and David Diehl have updated their blogs.
- ESPN's Matt Mosley thinks the NFC East -- with the exception of the Giants -- was overrated when the season began.
- Tight end Kevin Boss is looking for a breakout game.
- Rookie wide receiver Hakeem Nicks is ready to get back into game action.
- Cornerback Terrell Thomas making the most of his opportunity.
- Plaxico Burress has been moved to a different prison.
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On Jacobs being "patient" ...
I seem to remember that waiting for his blocks to develop, and not trying to run past them was the key skill that Tiki Barber developed in the 2nd half of his career. He had so many long runs from being patient vs. just trying to be fast (which he was not).
It’s more obvious on screen passes, but the concept is still the same for normal running plays. Notice the extreme success that Dallas has had on their draw plays this year, that look to be very “slow developing” (patient ?).
If Jacobs can make “patience” work for him, vs. trying to be a truck, he might get more opportunities to get into the secondary with a real head of steam, and then we can get our kicks watching him “LaRon” or “Urlacher” someone.
So … let’s be patient, while he works on his patience. Could be a good thing.
Exactly
we all know that Jacobs can truck people over, that part of his game that needs no proof. If he can become a more patient runner with the Oline that we have the running game might even be able to surpass the totals from last year.
He is being smart and waiting for blocks and the scheme to develop which is great becuase it shows that Jacobs is really learning and wants to stay healthy for the duration of the season and this is part of how it happens.
I believe the patient approach
is more effective when the defense isn’t overloading the box. When there are more defenders looking to stop the run vs. blockers available the only thing you’re waiting patiently for is someone to tackle you. When teams have to start respecting the pass more often, this patient approach will probably be more effective. This may be why Bradshaw’s ballroom blitz style has been more dangerous right now, because he’s reckless through that first line of defenders, then fights forward for the extra yard or two.
Agreed
Loading 8 in the box requires other measures. KG should consider more spread formations, and less between the tackle runs (more draws and wide runs – dare I suggest a bootleg or two ?).
Personally, I think both Jacobs and Bradshaw have enough speed to get to the corner, and continuing to run into the teeth of a defense’s strength is pointless.
This is why
the weak-side counter is an effective running play for our offense. Kevin Boss is an okay blocker, but he’s no world-beater, so it’s no killer to go away from his side. Instead, when the defense (hopefully the MLB) cheats to the strong side, you’ll have 5 OL vs. 4 DL, Hedgecock on the OLB, WR on CB, and let Jacobs hit the edge and go 1-on-1 vs. the safety.
great line ed
“As for Sunday, there might be a couple of Kansas City defensive backs who will wish Jacobs hadn’t spent the week answering questions about his running style.”
The Beast
Obviously the Redskins downgraded our division after choking against the Lions, but how can Mosley say the Eagles are that overrated? Sure they’re injury ridden, but that doesn’t count them out. McNabb will return afterall, and I’m straining to think of a game where Westbrook wasn’t playing hurt in some fashion. Plus they’ve got Shady who has real potential with this league… Sorry, I’m a bit big on him because we went to school together. Sidenote, the guy managed to fail a class about watching movies.
Westbrook
true, he hasn’t played healthy yet – but then, he’s probably never going to play healthy all season, maybe for the rest of his career. So I don’t know that that’s a positive for the Eagles
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Ed, one nitpick
“I can understand a weekend golfer screwing up his alignment, but I don’t get how a a veteran kicker like Tynes can suddenly not know how to line himself up to kick a short field goal.”
It’s not just weekend golfers who screw up their alignments – professional golfers and professional baseball players do it all the time. They constantly watch tape of their swings, hit the range/cage, and talk to swing/hitting coaches to fix hitches and whatnot. With the possible exceptions of Tiger Woods and Albert Pujols, I doubt there’s a single professional golfer or baseball player who hasn’t struggled at one time or another due to a minor change in their swing. It’s probably the same for Tynes.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
I think of it this way
With the Tynes situation. What pro athlete (person) hasn’t had a bad? I’m sure Tiger Woods has missed a 2-foot putt, i’m sure Michael Jordan has missed a layup or Gordie Howe missing an empty-netter?! You could go on and on and beat the horse to death, but it will never solve anything. Only improving on what made it a failure in the first place, would be a step in the right direction. But if it becomes habitual, then i’ll be concerned. That’s why i’ll cut him some slack!
Amen.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 2, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope you're right
It’s just a very odd thing for Tynes, though I know he has been making a lot of changes to his kicking style this year. Maybe he has himself temporarily screwed up.
Me too lol
They are all chip shots, but regardless, nothing should be taken as a gurantee. It is a 50/50 proposition afterall. Only the betting type would consider this a major concern! And your right, he was trying to improve his KO distance this offseason, perhaps this subtle change has carried over to FG’s?
Only gurantee in life is death and taxes. Oooops, i hope Tynes won’t be that taxing on us?! lol
Great line from Mosley:
“The Giants have definitely replaced the Eagles as the Beast’s flagship team. And I don’t see that changing any time soon. "
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
Great line from Mosley:
"The Giants have definitelyreplaced the Eagles asalways been the Beast’s flagship team. And I don’t see that changing any time soon. "
Fixed that for you.
Terrell Thomas
I think this opportunity may become more of the norm, rather than the exception?! It is unfortunate that Ross is injured, but as the story indicated, TT wanted to be more than a nickel back. His work ethic has translated into results. Yes, a few missed tackles, but where else are you going to have on the job training to fix what is needed?
Valuable playing time paying off!
Tynes
I also read that while he has had some trouble with FGs, his kickoffs have improved dramatically. He now has two styles. One which is designed for a touchback, the other a very high kick that lands at about the 20.
We saw the second one last week result in a fair catch at the 22. When was the last time you saw a fair catch on a kickoff?
More on Tynes alignment
The error in his alignment is that he’s not upright enough during games. For some reason he’s correct in practice, but during games he loses it. This is just a mental thing that he has to work through. It follows cj’c logic that sometimes pros get in a bad habit & just have to work through it.
Plaxico's relocation
I’m not as much surprised for his relocation as i am where he went. Just 30 miles from where i live! Not that i can have visitation rights for a Q&A session with him, but it’s big news for up here! lol
And upon this news, some of the comments that i have read from some locals think this is going to be horrible. They think Plax and his family are going to move here and be a menace to this society! lol The society up here is so depressing, which is a menace to those that visit, regardless of your freedom.
Up here, there’s only two seasons, winter and August. He’ll serve and be gone as quick as our summer!
big game for jacobs..
i have a feeling all this talk about him is going to get him amp and put up big numbers sunday…. he feeds off this stuff….
to me
the most important thing Jacobs can do is get to full speed as soon as possible regardless of where his blockers may be. He is next to impossible to bring down when he gets a head of steam. And I seem to remember some of his best runs happening when he went wide.
by giant fan since 57 on Oct 2, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions
Brandon "The Bull" Jacobs
Jacobs should have a good game this week. I don’t think there are any problems at all. What we are seeing is a very well balanced offense. Bradshaw and Jacobs are separated by only a few yards in total yards. The passing game is doing very well and the G-Men are winning games. I’ve read some of those stories too and they make it sound like we are 0-3 instead of 3-0. I’m not worried about Brandon Jacobs having a good season at all, he will be fine.
GO NY GIANTS!!
I agree with your comment Ed..
I made the same comment yesterday…Brandon was clearly irritated this week being questioned about his performance..KC is in for it..Not good for a bad team to have Jacobs get awnry..They’ll be sitting at their lockers after the game wondering where that train came from..

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