'Kudos & Wet Willies:' How many Wet Willies can I give the defense?

It’s really on Sheridan for having no answers.

but how about some credit where it its due. The Saints O-Line is excellent.

deserves on for taking those deep shot early in the game. Yea, they connect those quick strikes make a game of it. But if they fail…well 48-27 happens.

Also Gilbride is part of that. I know he doesn’t throw the ball, but I think the game plan of throwing deep against the Saints was what they came up with. I don’t think it was necessarily wrong, its just that they in hindsight should have waited to unleash it.

I mean, yea, the Saints did it and all theirs connected (more reason to throw this game away…that’s not gonna happen again, everything connecting.)

Eli wasn’t the reason the team lost obviously, but he was part of it. These are the types of games that a QB like him should be excelling. Not saying he can’t, but he didn’t. I think Eli knows he can, we all (should) know he can, its just that he didn’t. I’m sure Easy E is frustrated (as that yelling at AB showed) so he knows he wasn’t good enough today.

Yea, even if Eli was at the top of his game, the Saints O was infallible Sunday. But that’s not the point. Eli missed a few throws, rushed some towards his end there, no…he definitely deserves blame here.

I felt bad about giving it. But, still, his numbers were not good. The INT was a bad throw, protection issue or not. He had a couple of opportunities he missed. I do agree, though, there wasn’t much the guy could do about winning the game. It was not going to happen the way the D played.

I don’t know, to be honest. I had a feeling when I was getting dressed that I was making a mistake. My bad.

Problem is, what can you do now? If there was anyone better available, he would already have a job.

Basically…all a that.

Defense HAD to get exposed for all the injuries at some point. Would they have done better with all on deck? I dunno, but it couldn’t have hurt?

And I 100% agree on the offense. I LOVE the deep ball, its just WHEN that really annoyed me.

…CONVERT the 3rd down, that we’ve been doing so well all year…THEN GO DEEP!

We’d still have 2nd and 3rd to get the first. Instead, we’re punting and the Saints are marching.

Definitely didn’t like that. I don’t mind the deep ball, its just they need to be smarter about when to use it.

Its not a high percentage play (well. for the Saints it is, at least Sunday), tho it pretty much has been golden all year for the Giants, but you just don’t do it..on third down, especially down 7.

I mean…c’mon.

This isn’t as bad as losing to the Browns last year right? That made the Gints 4-1, this..5-1. We all scratched our heads after that one too, I’m sure a little more than we are today.

We all know what we have here. The rest of the season will be a test, but this one game doesn’t show anything.

Since neither of them has been able to practice for weeks now, I think that is highly unlikely. Can’t play if you can’t run, so don’t be counting on that. As for over-rated, didn’t I say that in the post? I think the d-line has got to be better, or this team is in a world of hurt defensively.

Well, the Giants were getting embarrassed trying to play man. As for the four-man rushes, I agree — sort of. This team is built to get pressure with just four. Unfortunately, they are not getting it done. There were a good number of blitzes as the game wore on, but I will keep saying this. Our defensive line has got to play better. Right now, they are not playing up to their reputations.

They might be talented, but 4 guys against 5 linemen and a RB and the occasional TE just aren’t going to get the job done. You got to bring a man. And when they did, it actually seemed to work. There was one play where Brees had a man wide open but threw a horrible pass b/c he had Blackburn in his face.

we’re gonna destroy their o-line and eat him alive

I appreciate them going deep a couple times to spread the field, but they did way too much. We tried to play their game instead of just doing what we do best.

To the double-bobbled pick by I think Brown and Dockery that turned into a 20 yd Lance Moore Reception.

I believe it was Brown. It was right there in his hands! If i’m not mistaken, it was third down and even if he didn’t pick it off, just bat the ball down and it would’ve been fourth down. I also think that catch led to their second score?!

Just a lucky bounce that you ponder, the what if’s!

Eli made an awesome reverse and was outrunning everyone, than just chucked it up and Jacobs came up with the ball. I thought he was intercepted for sure.

The refs screwed up big time. The replay showed that o’hara didn’t even touch a defensive player. they all went around him

CC Brown is not helping.

Ross is good stopping the run, TT too.

They both were considered CB/S type guys, so maybe they actually get treated like that.

Its just that one guy, CC Brown, that’s killing the Giants. If they had another guy to cover someone, I don’t think they’ve be all that bad.

Also…having Dockery and Brown on the same side killed the Giants too.

in completions over 20 yards, and was second in completions over 40 yards. So that was very much what they HAVE been doing this season. I just didn’t like doing it on 3rd and short when your D just got eaten alive.

My Girlfriend: The Giants are getting the ball back. Maybe they’ll get to score again before halftime.
Me: No, there’s not enough time left and they have no timeouts. There’s too much to risk and lose by trying to score from here… oh wait, they’re getting into shotgun. I guess they’re gonna go for it after all.
fast forward a couple minutes
My girlfriend: What just happened?
Me: Well, that was really stupid. I think we just lost the game.

Really?

First off, it was 55 seconds.

2nd? No. It was a great idea, from the 15 yard line after the unsportsmanlike by the Saints. Made a nice play to get to the 35.

But….like the 3rd down deep balls before in the game, the other thing I didn’t like was not spiking the ball on that play (which resulted in that sack and FF).

You spike the ball, gather thoughts and move on. Don’t take 20 seconds to run the no huddle, especially in that noise.

It resulted in Eli not noticing the safety creeping up, then THAT happened.

Clark and Blackburn are slow, slower than Pierce.

Boley and probably Sintim and probably Kehl (I think he was relegated to ST duty cuz of HIS injury) if they play, make this a much faster unit…ESPECIALLLY BOLEY.

Not enough can be made how good this guy is for the Giants. They are gonna miss him the time he misses.

they are awful, Peter King gushed how a Saints Vikings NFC championship game would be the best ever. It’s week 6. I don’t why I even read Peter King he’s just like everyother idiot in the media he just jumps on the bandwagon week in week out and oppenly roots for Brett Favre.

There is no doubt in my mind that even with the weather we had yesterday in NJ that would have been an entirely different game. Maybe we still lose but no way do they torch us for 48 points.
 
I hate dome football with a passion. Their team is tailor made to play inside and if they gain home field advantage for the playoffs they will be tough to beat. I would love nothing more than a rematch in mid January at Giants stadium 15 degrees/50mph winds/freezing rain.

Successful Giants teams have always taken pride in playing hard nosed defense. Stop the run and attack the passer at all costs.
 
I agree there was no emotion, guys were pointing fingers at each other, and Osi and Tuck were laughing on the sidelines after getting burnt for the 6th TD pass of the game.
 

while I see the point you are trying to make, I don’t agree, only because the Giants talk so much about how they don’t get respected, blah blah blah, and for the defense to essentially stay on the bus yesterday is inexcusable. If you want to be a championship team, it takes effort every Sunday. Yesterday there was no effort on defense.

it’s not your friend…

But Spags has been lit up, too. It’s all about how he adapts from here. I keep telling myself (despite my better judgement) that maybe, just maybe, there is evil genius here at work and they don’t want to show their hand on either side of the ball unto they absolutely have to. I never want to settle for a loss, but our ultimate goal is to hoist the Lombardi this year. To do so, we’ll most likely see this team again. Philly really had us figured out by the playoffs rolled around. So maybe they’re holding back. Maybe. I hope.

Everyone is different, even if the blueprint has the same foundation. Sheridan is no Spags and vice versa. Look no further than our rivals, the Eagles. McDermott is no Jimmie Johnson (RIP)! Aside from what may seem like similarities, there is still a learning curve and adjustments that all have to overcome.

To keep it into perspective, Sheridan may want to do more, but with what? Injuries play a role in what teams want or can do. Just for an example, what Blackburn can do, Boley can do better, and in all phases. This in turn can help predetermine what AP can do. It has a rippling effect throughout the entire D. This doesn’t even include Canty and Phillips absence!

Maybe Tuck’s injury caught up with him a bit?

We don’t think of it cuz he’s played well the past 2 weeks…but this is an injury that’s gonna affect him all year, maybe it finally did?

I wonder if they change things up defensively this week. Because if they watch film of the Cards and thinks they can get good pressure with 4 do they stay with the same sceme so fitz and Boldin don’t torch them? I can’t kill them for that philisophy because it protects you against getting beat deep, (well not yesterday), but for the most part. I do agree with you though Frank they should look to change their approach a bit.

But it still wouldn’t have made a difference in the W-L column.

It definitely would have been closer. 10 pt swing at the end of the 1st half (Up a fg, and no NO td), and the blatant holding on a 3rd and 10 that let them prolong a drive.

But the way we were playing opposed to how they were playing, we were going to be beat anyways.

Hochuli needs to be suspended though. That officiating sucked

Zone or no zone, he wasn’t protecting anything and Brees made us pay for that.