on Sunday and would say two things in Jacobs defence.

1) 3 carries inside the 5 for 4 yards is going to hit the average – we have already flogged to death that we cannot run Jacobs up the gut in short yardage situations (ie the Redskins game).

2) There were too many calls for Jacobs to be running East to West which resulted in no gain or a loss as he does not have the inital burst to turn the corner (which Bradshaw can) which again hits the average.

Jacobs as we all know is at his best between the Tackles against non short yardage defences. That way he can get to the hole and then use his strength when he is into the secondary.

This is based on the one game I have seen – but it seems to me that Jacobs is no longer the short yardage back and once we stop using him as such his average will improve.

People have been bringing this topic up since the season started and everyone else who knew better kept saying “just wait until next game” or “he’s gonna break out the next game” etc.

It’s ironic that this article has been written now as some kind of rallying call for B. Jacobs to get his act together when I think the author has been one of the people on this board that wasn’t worried about B. Jacobs running in the beginning of the season.

Anybody who can see realizes that Jacobs is not running the same way and is trying to be a running back I don’t think he can ever be. He doesn’t have the tools to do this. He is too damn slow at the beginning of his run and needs to break loose a couple of yards before he starts running downhill.

We criticized Ron Dayne all the time for just putting his head down and hitting the line without looking for a block. I’m of the opinion that he’s running smarter, and he certainly hasn’t been ineffective. I think the D’s are keying on in a bit, and despite his stats he is still vital for setting up Bradshaw’s runs and the playaction, and I think he’s been doing that. It reminds me of the Pats during the their first Super Bowl runs, they didn’t run the ball well at all, but still ran 30 times a game and it helped their total offense

hes been very tentative and cautious on every run, settingling for a 3-4 yard gain instead of blowing someone up for an extra 3-4. if this is what hes trying to do, im fine with that. as long as hes healthy late in the season when the weather gets bad and we really need the running game to be strong, i say keep it up BJ. we all know what hes capable of, leave the man alone.

Don’t read the papers or go online b/c everyone is making too much of this story.

Here we go…back to talking about Jacobs a week removed from a very effective game vs. KC…averaging 4+ yards per carry.

I guess if Jacobs is not averaging 5 yards per carry there’s something wrong with him….I supposed that’s one of the pitfalls of having experienced so much success in his career.

I don’t remember these articles in ’07 when Bradshaw was our leading RB in the playoffs….and Jacobs was averaging a paltry 3 or so yards / carry.

I don’t think people can fathom how dominant our O line was last year I mean to have 2 1,000 yard rushers was very special…they were opening up holes that my grandmother could run through.

Is Jacobs the same guy he was when he came into the league no….but if you guys remember he was in the same boat as AB. Jacobs was 2nd fiddle to Tiki and I remember wanting him to get the majority of the carriers b/c of his durability and punishing running style. But they saved him so he can be the work horse that he is today…and as Giant fans after a 5 games I think Jacobs deserves more credit.

But ill say this. Anyone with tivo or dvr that hasn’t deleted the game Sunday yet, go back and watch the run plays. Not just big boys, but ahmad’s too. You’ll see 2 things. One, when Brandon is in the game, the raiders have 8 men, 9 times out of 10, in the box. Sometimes 9. Now I only analyzed the 1st half of the game, but I’m pretty sure that trend continued in the second half when the g men were up and in run mode. When ahmad was in the game, the box was not stacked. There were 7 or less in the box. When ahmad did face 8, he was not breaking off the huge runs, with the exception of the 20 yard score, where in my opinion, his sharp cut and burst made that play successful. Jacobs probably wouldn’t have been able to make that same cut.

The second thing I noticed is the formations they run out of. Almost EVERYTIME Jacobs ran in the first half, it was out of the fricking I formation. Usually a strong I too, with only one wideout and an extra blocker in. When ahmad was in, he ran out of a lot of passing sets, thus probably dictating why he usually saw 7 as opposed to 8 everytime he touched it. Ahmad was running out of 3 and 4 receiver sets man!

Listen, say what you want to say about the big boy. This post is not meant to make excuses for him, because in an unbiased manner, when watching the tape over, I also saw instances when Brandon did stop, stutter step, tippy toe, or whatever you wanna call it and not hit holes hard. All I’m saying is let’s keep in mind that defenses play these 2 guys differently, and that maybe Mr gilbride should shake up the playbook a little bit, and not telegraph brandons runs. Because we keep saying on here what he can’t do, what he can’t do. I’ve watched him intently from his first preseason game as a giant. There is nothing that Brandon Jacobs can’t do! He can run outside, he can run inside, he can score inside the 5, he can run out of a 4 receiver set, he can cut it back, and the proof is on youtube and in your memories. Open up the damn playbook and let big boy loose!!!!

between the start of this season and the 4 game playoff run when bradshaw lead the team in rushing???

widdre22 makes a great point…KG is giving away the run and teams are stacking the box….just like they did in the playoffs…

1. It’s probably difficult to slam full-tilt into 300+ pound defensive lineman 25-30 times a game. Probably not a bad idea to have a look around now and then.
2. Just like having Plax helped the run game, Jacobs helps the passing game… and Bradshaw. These things are complEmentary and synergistic.
3. The Giants have rushed for an average of 160 yards per game. So why are we wondering what’s wrong with the run game?
I also hate to see Jake slow up, kill his own momentum, ebcause it seems like he’s the only one who can, sometimes. But seriously, people. This guy is a tone-setter, a workhorse, and frankly, 3.6 avg. 5 games in is not bad for a primary back of his style.
Team B-Jake!

Jacons trucks the * out of 1-2 Saints

“Frustration is very much upon me?”

What is he, Hamlet?

Jacobs is our boy. He’s clearly frustrated and I would rather see him be patient and find that huge gain than continue to just pound into the line and gain 3 yards. He’s right when he says he can make plays with his feet, because that’s how he’s always done it.

I mean the man has used his body as a battering ram for five years. He hits people really hard and he gets hit hard. Defenses want to hurt Brandon not tackle him. If that man wants to change his running style or figure out a way to lessen those collisions then by all means he should. How many years of playing does he have left? Three maybe four tops.

If Brandon had the same numbers but a couple of sportcenter moments then this would be a none issue. Everyone wants to see him hurt somebody and pretend he’s not flesh and bone. An article was posted with a link to a NY Times article detailing the rise of concussions in the NFL. How many times has Jacobs gotten hit and he has to run off the field to get his bearings?

I do not support any running back just banging into people as hard as he can no matter how much I would enjoy it I’m sure his family doesn’t. What we need is for Brandon to get good at whatever he’s trying to do with his rushing style and not just have batter himself into retirement.

To be honest, this isn’t the first time I’ve seen BJ run like this. His first few years in the league he had the same problem, prancing around at the line of scrimmage. Really, his last two seasons are the only two seasons I’ve seen him run the way he should be running — north to south and knocking over anything in his path. I think the other RBs on the roster might have something to do with it, like he forgets who he is and what works for him and tries to run more like them. Although I’m sure this isn’t the main root of the problem, it could have something to do with it.

that’s my … that’s my running back man sob

He may not be on pace for his 14 TD’s, tho there’s plenty of time to go. But he’s on pace to better his career total yardage numbers.

There are 2 things he’s not doing. One, break the 30 yarder or 2 that made his rushing totals high, and two, he’s not automatic from the goal line. Everything else, as in pounding the defense and giving the other guys in the running game tired defenders to run by, is still there.

Whoever says Jacobs is this year’s Plaxico…on the field (and of course, not nearly the whining..he has been getting teh ball 20+ times….so he has no reason to whine about touches, not like Jake is like that….) is correct. When teams see him out there, they charge the LOS like mad.

Ever realize why that Play action is so wide open? I say who cares about Jacobs lack of stats. I wouldn’t trade him for anything. He helps the team out that much. He’ll get his due, he’s healthy. That’s all I ask for.

Guys

When we play the Eagles it is always about slowing Westbrook down so that he does not control the game. If we do that and we win the game we all applaud the effort by the defence. If Westbrook runs and catches all over us we will complain like hell!!

Well the other teams are not going to allow Jacobs to control the game by pounding out yard after yard.

So just as we stop the opp’s best players on offence they are doing the same to us.

However, when we replace Jacobs with Bradshaw it is a different offence – more speed and less power, combined with our improved passing game means that the opp has to gameplan for both a power and speed running game and a short and long passing game.

Time will tell if we have too many weapons to defend against, but the playcalling has been top notch this season so at the moment I am happy that we have a good chance to score points against whoever we face.

The Raiders played a lot of man on our receivers…with one safety 15 yards off in the middle. So basically their game plan was to stop the run. The Giants receivers destroyed the man on man coverage.
I think that this man on man coverage has been consistent all year with the opposing teams. Now that Smith, Maningham, NIcks are doing so well they are going to have to start doubling up on one of them. Once they soften the run defense to watch out for our very competent pass offense, this will start to give some running room for Jacobs.
My point is that Teams were and are fearful of our run game and OVERCOMPENSATED…now they will realize they also have to watch our pass offense…Then our run offense will improve.
IT is GREAT to see such a balance offense attack. Jacobs will have his day again!