'Kudos & Wet Willies': Bring on the real teams
by Ed Valentine on Oct 12, 2009 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintThank goodness the Junior Varsity portion of the New York Giants' schedule is complete. I love winning, and I love total domination of the opposition. But, the Giants have barely been challenged for three weeks now and I am ready to see them match up with real NFL competition.
That will happen next weekend when the Giants travel to the Big Easy to taken on the New Orleans Saints. We will have all week to talk about that game, though, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.
For today, let's focus on Sunday's 44-7 pasting of the utterly inept Oakland Raiders. The best way to do that? Our traditional 'Kudos & Wet Willies' review, of course, so let's get on with it.
Kudos to ...
- Eli Manning: After a week of wondering if he would play due to his plantar fasciitis, Manning was terrific. He led the Giants to four quick scores, then got out of the game to rest while David Carr and his teammates continued to beat up the Raiders. A 'kudos' to Tom Coughlin, too, for getting Eli out of there quickly and letting him rest.
- Ahmad Bradshaw: Do we need to have an argument now about which guy is actually the best Giants' running back? Sunday was a great day for Bradshaw with 110 yards and two TD on 10 carries, plus a 55-yard catch and run on a perfectly executed screen pass (see, it is in KG's playbook!). Bradshaw has clearly been better than Brandon Jacobs thus far in 2009. The numbers don't lie. Bradshaw (58 carries, a team-high 375 yards, a 6.5 yards per carry average and 2 touchdowns. Jacobs (100 carries, 355 yards, 3.5 yards per carry, 1 touchdown). Clearly, when the Giants need a big play from their offense Bradshaw has to be on the field.
- Justin Tuck: I think you can safely say Tuck is recovered from his shoulder injury. He was dominant Sunday with six tackles, two sacks, a forced fumble and a fumble recovery.
- Mathias Kiwanuka: Maybe Kiwi piled up some of his numbers mopping up for Tuck and Osi Umenyiora, but he had a nice day and showcased his athleticism. Five tackles, a sack and a forced fumble. Pretty good for a 'backup' defensive end.
- Terrell Thomas: So, between a healthy Aaron Ross (you do remember him, right?) and Thomas who is the better player? My vote -- without question -- goes to Thomas. Yeah, the Raider offense is pitiful, but don't let that take away from how good Thomas was Sunday. The second-year corner back was all over the field, with a sack and forced fumble, a beautiful breakup of a long pass attempt, and four tackles.
- Dave Tollefson: The ex-Raider practice squadder had a huge special teams tackle and absolutely crushed JaMarcus Russell for a sack. Yeah, he's not good enough to be on the Raiders' 53-man roster.
- Jonathan Goff: Two or three huge hits by Goff on special teams. He is becoming quite a weapon on the coverage units for the Giants, joining guys like Chase Blackburn and Bryan Kehl in helping to turn a unit that used to be a weakness into a Giants strength.
- Steve Smith: What was that about Smith not being able to catch the deep ball? That incredible catch he made on a 43-yard deep ball Sunday might put on end to that. He is having a Pro Bowl type season thus far.
- Hakeem Nicks: A 17-yard touchdown catch, and four receptions for 49 yards. The No. 1 pick is quietly becoming a big piece of the Giants' passing attack.
- Lawrence Tynes: Can't forget to give some props to the beleaguered kicker. After his struggles thus far in 2009, it was nice to see Tynes go 3-for-3. The kicks were of the short to mid-range variety -- 25, 33 and 37 yards -- and it was nice to see him make those comfortably. Hopefully, he can build on that and put his early-season misses behind him.
There are probably a bunch of other deserving players here, too. I can't go on forever, though, so this will have to be it.
Wet Willies to ...
- Sinorice Moss: Gave the Raiders their only opportunity of the day with a completely bone-headed fumble on a punt he never should have tried to field. Even when he catches the ball, Moss' speed seemingly never translates into big plays on returns. I can't wait until the Giants get healthy enough to get him out of that role.
- Gartrell Johnson: Hey, Gartrell, going the wrong way and slamming into Carr is not the impression you want to leave on TC with Danny Ware almost ready to return from his elbow injury.
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That covers it for me. I have to go to the lake this week, so I’ve got to check out the Bills’ schedule. Damn, I could miss the NO game!
just go to a bar
alot of bars have the direct tv nfl package and play all the games
Funny how EVERYTHING that people have doubted about the Giants is turning in the Giants favor
The passing attack might be the best in Giants history.
The running gave overall probably isn’t better than last year, but that’s more cuz Jacobs isn’t running for 900 yards a game. Bradshaw IS better that Derrick Ward….Jerry Reese was right when he said that? Someone give that man a gold star!
The defense? Sorry Spags, we REALLY don’t miss ya yet. I’d love for him to still be here of course, but aside from the camera’s panning to him every 3rd down on defense, anyone actually notice he’s gone? Again, this knock on the Giants may be better…
Now what’s the knock? Oh yea, they’ve been beating up on inferior opponents.
Given that the Giants have just about proved every single doubter on the face of the earth wrong, does anyone still wanna doubt the G-Men?
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
john clayton
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 12, 2009 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions
refs and one for oaklan
i know i know it is pathetic to complain about the refs, but a wet one is much deserved for that blown call on the fumble and touchdown… that is now twice in 5 games (the other against Dallas). i’m not saying the refs are biased, just that they are getting in the way of the game. a couple of ticky tack pass interference calls as well (against both teams).
on the other hand, i did see one great play by oakland. it was on the long pass to Nicks (i believe) defensed by Asomugha. the only reason that Nicks was out of bounds on the reception was that Asomugha guided him out of bounds on the play with a bit of subtle, but legal, use of the hands… it was a classic veteran play on a rookie.
and Nicks damn near had it...
maybe a veteran WR remembers to tap the right foot there? Or at least get the other one down. Maybe Nicks thought he was still at UNC and you only gotta get one foot down?
Dude is gonna be an excellent WR.
And the blown call pissed me off only cuz of the fact that if this was a closer game, that very well could have been THE GAME right there. That’s a huge momentum shift. Even if they called it similar to the Dallas game, where the Giants just get the ball back, I would have been fine with it (you don’t know if CC is gonna run that one back if Oakland actually tries to tackle him…or maybe they did try? I dunno…)
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 12, 2009 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
What Ps me O about it
is that we should have had another goose egg. This should have been 51-0. “Should-haves” and “ifs” are a stat, right?
I think you hit the nail on the head..
He’s still playing College ball..He’s going to be great, but needs to learn how to get both feet in bounds..Asimugha played that toss perfect..coaxed him right out of bounds..Nicks will learn from it.
if by coaxed him
you mean grabbed his wrist and pulled his jersey
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 12, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Moss...
Though it was a bone headed play, the G-Men should have had the fumble recovery right after for a possible defensive TD. I will be generous though since the mercy rule was not envoked. Forward motion was stopped????
When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.
by Fester McDougal on Oct 12, 2009 7:48 AM EDT reply actions
not really, no
the whistle didn’t blow until the Giants had the ball. Refs don’t blow the whistle the MOMENT forward motion stops. If they did it would ruin half the plays of the game. The forward progress whisle is for when you have a weird, stalled situation, to protect the ball carrier. Horrible, horrible call.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 12, 2009 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions
and the refs did the same exact thing to the patriots
complete, obvious fumble, called it forward progress to cover their asses
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 12, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm about done w/ him
He does nothing in the return game. And bone-headed plays aren’t acceptable. What kills me in the weeks prior, when ever he was trying to wave a punt off, he’d be jogging toward it. How you gonna tell people to get away from it while your putting yourself in the danger zone? And I saw at least once (I think it was against KC last week) where someone tried to push him into the ball, and I can’t blame them.
I guess Tyree wasn’t a return man, but at least he had value on special teams. Hixon, we need you healthy and back there.
I think
the most we can do here is lobby Ed for a wet willie in BOTH ears.
I agree there is not much use for Moss anymore. There are what, 5 guys ahead of him on WR depth. He’s 3rd in return depth behind healthy Hixon and healthy Ware. I don’t hear his name on kick coverage. There has to be a spot we need filled more effectively that this.
Obviously the muffed punt was a potential disaster
But otherwise I thought he a some nice returns and he also made an excellent tackle on kick coverage. It think the returned might have gotten away if Moss hadn’t zipped over and tackled him. And how does that little dude get anyone down? I don’t know, but it was a very effective tackle.
by hopeforthefuture3 on Oct 12, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice returns?
Anytime someone swung an arm remotely near him he fell down. Dude has NO ability to make someone miss, regardless of how bad the tackle attempt is. He needs to be sent packing.
Eli...
Could have a made a lot of people really nervous if he made even just a couple of errant throws. But he was damn near perfect. Really looking forward to this weeks battle for NFC Supremacy.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 12, 2009 9:21 AM EDT reply actions
I was a little worried
At the start of the game, Eli seemed to be a little high on his passes – the one to the tight end #47 comes to mind – but his receivers did a good job of either going up and catching the ball or at least keeping the defenders from coming down with it. Dunno if a sore plant foot would cause passes to go high – But as the game went forward, the problem seemed to go away.
Actually I did hear...
That with any foot injury one might find themselves trying to overcompensate on passes, leading to overthrows. I don’t think this is the case with Eli though, because when he misses he normally misses high anyway.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 12, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Mid season roster additions
All those injured folks will make for a nice addition to the active roster when they finally play.
Wally Pip aka Aaron Ross may become the best third CB in the conference when he comes back.
Jacobs and AB are different backs and are equally valuable. Do not make the mistake of writing Jacob’s obit just yet. Recall this post when Jacobs becomes a beast in the cold weather and the post season.
I’ll say it again – Moss should not be taking a roster spot. He may be NFL caliber but it seems he cannot bring it for the Giants. Maybe somewhere else.
Did Beatty or other backup OLs play much and if yes how did they do?
For sure
When Moss’s contract is up he’ll be looking for a job elsewhere. Why would he want to stay with the Giants?
by hopeforthefuture3 on Oct 12, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Was I seeing things?
Danny Ware almost ready to return from his elbow injury.
I could have sworn that I saw Ware on Specials Teams yesterday.
Ware was inactive
So, you were seeing things — apparently.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 12, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
We've got to double or triple check that one Ed.
There was a 28 out there on ST. There is no way I can be having Danny Ware flashes. I’m too young to be going crazy.
Well
What were you drinking Sunday afternoon? LOL!!
by Ed Valentine on Oct 12, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
You're right
I’ve got to leave the blue Hawaiian Punch alone. The bad thing for me is that I watched this game in my garage with the projection on the wall. The players are just as tall as I am out there. It’s not like I was watching a 19’ tv or something.
Note to self……must go to eye doctor.
You have a projection screen in your garage?
& you didn’t invite all your buddies from NC?
shame!
by NYer in a strange land on Oct 12, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
What's going on NYer?
Last week at Sauced, my wife had a hard time seeing the game. It was “HER” idea to put the DirectTV in use and order the package. Got to love the way she thinks. We’ve got a finished garage and we watch movies and on the wall out there. I’ve also got a receiver out there with surround sound, so if you guys want to come over, feel free. Just give me some heads up so that I can have plenty of wings and beverages.
Bradshaw
And to think people here said he couldn’t be better then Derrick Ward or that he couldn’t be the number 1/starter.. Get outta here man! I’ve been saying it all along #44 is the best RB on our team… Derrick who? Time for the haters to start lying and saying they love Bradshaw… It’s ok there’s room for yall to jump on the Bradshaw bandwagon, welcome aboard!
Actually
My Cowboy fan wife pointed him out last year to me..She said “watch this guy”..I hate when women are right as usual!!..
At least I pointed out Dallas’s Choice and Austin to her..they look scary good..Romo didn’t bust up anybody’s ribs with his throws yesterday..that is going to be one hell of a rematch..He still throws nice tight spirals to nowhere though. Hopefully into our guys.
Ya Know...
I bet Derrick Ward is on that bandwagon right about now. Hope he likes having his $$ because I find it hysterical that he was signed by TB to be their #1 RB and he can’t beat out a guy who has had 2 devastating injuries. Great job by the Giants realizing what Ward really is/was.
by sexyscottish on Oct 12, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we cut Moss and bring back Tyree?
Seriously. Tyree’s unsigned. He has better hands than Moss. He’d be better on special teams than Moss (i.e. a plus on the coverage unit with his presence and a plus on the return unit with Moss’s absence).
"We're only going to score 17 points?" ~ Tom Brady
Evans
I would like to bring back Maurice Evans
Evans the journeyman
Did you see that after being signed and cut by the Panthers (?) he has now been signed and cut by the Bucs. I guess those teams don’t rate him as highly as BBV bloggers did during the pre-season .. or at least not as highly as their incumbent players.
You guys are silly
Just because Moss makes a mistake. Don’t you think the management gave a lot of thought to whether they wanted Moss or Tyree or Evans? Moss has played fine all season, made an excellent touchdown catch earlier in the year.
by hopeforthefuture3 on Oct 12, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
its amazing that simply no one cares
when he make a gorgeous TD catch over a 6"2 CB.
That catch alone buys him a spot on the roster for the rest of the year.
I don’t know how the fact that Moss shouldn’t be returning kicks or punts, cuz he’s an idiot….equates with kick him off the team.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 12, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
What a Game
That was a spectacle in the Meadowlands yesterday. Total domination. It feels great to be 5-0 and I look forward to taking on the Saints.
GO NY GIANTS!!
Kudos to Carr and Tynes (for a change)
Carr came in and did’nt bail out..He threw well, hung in the pocket and only ran when the opportunity presented itself..Tynes looks like he may have solved his mechanics problem..He looked solid..I was so relaxed watching this game that I actually sat and watched him kick..I had been getting up and walking away the first 4 games. This game was the perfect scenario we could possibly ask for..Eli was awesome..then was taken out to rest him up, and the guys that came in did a great job..He showed no signs of that heel causing problems, so now we know it must be relatively minor. This week we’ll find out what we’ve got in the gas tank against New Orleans..a real team.
It appeared
At one point in time that Bradshaw got shaken up but then we saw him in there again and he picked up a big gain. I wanna say this happened early third. But we didnt see Ahmad after that. Hoping we just wasn’t needed and to get him some rest. He has been a beast this year and I expect him to continue that way. I wasn’t expecting much of a game. No wet willies for the how bad the Raiders are? And I really want Hixon back on special teams as well. I could see us bringing back Tyree maybe if Moss makes a couple more boneheaded plays.
he got horsecollared
and went down to his knees, jolting his lower back. Hopefully it’s nothing lingering. He got up quick but then had some work on the sidelines… Honestly when the Giants are up by 20+ there’s no reason for anyone but Gartrell to run the ball… I don’t like him but I like SEEING him becuase it mean (a) we’re killing and (b) the real running backs are safe
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 12, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I know "Ham" got pulled out
Due to a bruised chest, but I also noticed Bradshaw come off limping..I hope he is alright..Also, I am wondering when they are going to pound Jacobs up the gut again..I think they are doing that on purpose (his cutting his runs outside)..It almost seems that they are preserving him for later in the season. I didn’t see TC chewing on him nor Gilbride.
oddly enough
I think we may see a big game from him against the Saints. Why not see what he can do against without taking huge punishment against teams like Oakland? Save the brutal yards for games that may actually be in doubt.
Someone rolled up on his leg....
while he was being tackled and it wasn’t a horse collar.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
disagree
someone may well have gotten on his legs but it was a diving top-down grab from behind … the best I can offer is, maybe he didn’t get a hand inside the pads…
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 12, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Can we officially move Sinorice Moss off of returns?
The guy averages 18.2 yards per kickoff return, and 6.7 yards per punt return. More importantly, every time he tries to return, he falls over. The guy is just putrid at returning. I know the return game isn’t our strength or anything, but can we move someone better onto these duties?
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
I can't understand Moss..
He has the speed to be a good return guy, but he keeps making mental errors out there..I just do not understand it..A player needs to know where they are..know when to fair catch, run it, or get the hell out of the way and let the ball go and do its thing.
hixon
Why isn’t hixon doing punt or kickoff returns..that boy is not good as a receiver..better as a special teams..
Tollefson showed up yesterday too.
Every week I’m liking that boy more and more…
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 12, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions
maybe
the O-Line is doing what’s best for the team by trying to get JaM hurt
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 12, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome To The Dave Tollefson Experience
I’ve been driving the bandwagon for a while. Hop on and hang on – we only go in one direction, but we go pretty fast.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
Oh I'm on.
I’ve actually had an eye on him since he was the only one to effectively put Garcia on his ass in that playoff game at Tampa in ‘07. Now that he’s getting more reps, he seems to making more of a name for himself.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 12, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Tollefson
I love the guy, but he will hardly ever see the field when the Giants play good teams. He’s not as good as Osi/Tuck/Kiwi.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 12, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Depth baby...
It’s all about depth.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 12, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
now for a real game....
while ya’ll were having a easy time with the hopeless raiders, the saint were resting and prepping for the new york football giants,
this game could be a preview of a post season match-up. with home field advantage the saints are hard to beat,and this game could go a long way to determine home field advantage in the playoffs.
this will be the best NFC game of the young season. make no mistake the saints will test eli’s heel with constant pressure. the saints are also tuff on the run.
my take is the saints by 6 points,
I'll be honest- to me, the Saints scare me more than any other team in football.
I think it’s pretty clear at this point that if all continues as it is going, the Giants and the Saints will be the teams in the NFC conference game. That said, the Giants are just too deep to be beaten by any team right now, as guys are finally starting to get healthy. I’ll take the Giants by less than a touchdown.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
I don't know
The Favreians are pretty scary right now too. AP is the most dangerous back in football and their D is playing some sick Defense. Allen is looking like some sort of defensive MVP. if Brett stays healthy and under control (lose the gunslinger mentality), the Vikes will be there too.
AP is over rated.....
i would take benson (cincy) or turnner (falcons) over AP,he fumbles to much for me to put him that high.
spell it
“Farvings” … it’s easier to read
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 12, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
either way it's gonna be fun to watch...
and i’m glad no one’s bashing shockey (yet), the trade worked out good for both teams. i think he’ll have a big day against ya’lls LBs. danny clark was a saint before he came to the giants,so we know him pretty good, look for brees to go at him.
ohh, we got to add the vikings to the mix when talking about the NFC champs
Saints
I think the Saints have a huge advantage this weekend. The bye, plus being at home. I try to never, ever sell this Giants team short. This, however, will be an incredibly difficult game for the Giants to win.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 12, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I see it two ways Ed
Yes the Saints had the bye and they are playing at home, but I like the rhythm the Giants have established. It’s going to be a great game.
the saints....
suck after a bye, they have lost the last 2 years coming off of the bye…………..but this is a different team this year.
The problem with playing after a bye
Is you tend to start a little slow, and if the other time gets the jump on you, you may never get into your rhythm. Has happened to the Giants many times.
by hopeforthefuture3 on Oct 12, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
not to mention
the giants are the best road team in the league. at least we don’t have to worry about the swirling winds messing up eli’s throw. i say Giants by 4
Well...
The Saints are a very good football team..but they aren’t going to get to Eli with the line we have and the skill he has in moving around the pocket..If anyone needs to worry it will be Brees..Alot of folks make a big deal about these Bye weeks..The Giants just had practice yesterday against the Raiders and starting today will dissect Saints films and devise a game plan. I’d take a team who played a game versus a team who rested on Sunday..The Saints need not only to watch film, but get back in “Game-shape”. The only thing a bye week gives a team is a chance for hurt players get some rest and treatment in hopes of getting them ready to play, beyond that the whole team is playing catch-up to get back in gear during the week.
from what i've read....
payton gave the saints extra time off, while in the past he worked the team real hard,
now, the saints have done a great job of keeping brees clean the past three season, but ya’ll do have a great D-line.somethings got to gave.the real strength of the saints O-line is it’s tackles,evans and nicks are not household names but ya’ll will know them come sunday afternoon, they are big, mobile, and the reason the saints are a dominate run team this year.
the saints on defense is the wildcard,i look for them to use a 3-4 base on ya’ll, with grant ellis and smith down, and mccray lined up as a outside LB, that’s the best group ya’ll will face all year. plus eli must know where sharper is on every play,or he will steal his lunch money.
good points...
great pseudo scouting report. But good luck trying to play against this elite Giants team. Sunday will give both teams a chance to display which one is truly THE elite team in the NFC. Either way, I think we can agree that these teams should probably meet again in January, all things considered.
In Reese We Trust
sorry...
didn’t mean to say that the Saints couldn’t compete. I meant to say that both these teams have their work cut out for them. I respect the Saints D so much more now that I’ve seen what they could do to the Jets. Now, Manning won’t make the same mistakes as Sanchez but Sharper was the guy who haunted Eli against the Ravens’ D back when he was younger as well.
This will be a really interesting, intriguing game. No doubt that if this game was week 8 or later, this would have been flexed!
In Reese We Trust
that's right......
it’s without a doubt the best game on next sunday.
good luck to the giants(not that ya’ll need it), but a big WHO-DAT to my boys
Zebras deserve a willie
That play was IDENTICAL to the one from the Monday nighter last week where Peterson had it ripped out of his hands by the GB LB. I was okay with them ignoring at least 10 blatant holding calls on the TE/OL for Oakland because the game never would have ended (see Tuck’s sack, his jersey was stretched out behind him by the TE), but no explanation is going to justify that horrible call. Am I bitter because of the 13 pt fantasy swing (6 for the Oak TD, 1 for the fumble, 6 for the defensive TD the other way)? Yes, am I bitter because we got robbed of the shutout? Yes. But most importantly, what if that play had actually mattered in the outcome of the game?!? I don’t understand why you can’t review something so blatantly obvious.
Let's face it guys..
We are dealing with a relatively new set of Referees..They haven’t been around long, and are going thru a learning curve. We need to be patient and let them learn…But I must say there seems to be a surge in missed, questionable, wrong calls this year so far..Throw in the new rules and they are obviously confused..We always had seasoned Refs mixed in with new ones but now a new generation has appeared…and I’ve seen alot of them actually getting in the way of plays because they are out of position..Hopefully, by the playoff run they’ll work the kinks out.
Guys - it was great
However, my friend was an Oakland fan so I had to be kind to him (although he knows the Raiders are bad) so he could get me tickets for later in the season.
If I had to give a Wet Willie it would be to Rouse for his missed tackle near the end of the first half.
I thought Carr was too ready to bail out to the right and therefore fails to see half the field = so half a Wet WIllie for him.
I was amazed at the number of times an OL reported in as an TE on normal first down plays.
The defence did very well with what they had to face..
As for the flight – well I am a bit tired now but I will take a 44-7 win everytime.
by G Fan in England on Oct 12, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
Hey G Fan in England
Glad your awake!!..You saw a good game..“Mission Accomplished”..I stated earlier that you may very well have a hang-over!!..Carr did well. He wasn’nt bailing out and only ran when it was obvious that he could get yards..He wasn’t running for his life trying to read half the field for a reciever to pass to…He did a good job for a change..He didn’t bail-out as usual..and Eli got rested early..That is good as we head for the Saints…Yesterday’s game was a good one for you to come watch!..Glad you had a safe trip!!
Two seconds rule
If it is a quick developing play Carr was already, but then his internal clock kicked in. His TD run was nearly a sack and several of his roll outs to the right meant he missed an open guy on the left side. Still that is nitpicking.
by G Fan in England on Oct 12, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes but Carr only took off 4 times
Versus every snap like he usually does.
carr and nicks
seemed to have a pretty good chemistry starting up. I think Nicks is going to be a real stud especially toward the end of the season.
oops I crapped my pants!
I'm giving Gartrell a mulligan.
Backup QB…a guy who doesn’t see the field much…that was his one “oops.” Sinorice Moss…anyone got an LB or a pick to trade for him?
I left my swagger in my other pants.
Russell/Tollefson
The irony of course is that Tollefson was cut by the Raiders because of Russel’s rookie season holdout hold out.
Big Blue Rules
One thing is true so far this year,we haven’t faced a tough team yet and that includes the Dull ass cowgirls But in our favor these last few games have been nothing more then scrimmage games.I look for the GMen to prove a point to the league that they are the real deal and dominate the saints on all sides of the ball.I`ll even give you a score prediction
27- 9 Gmen The Saints are in for an eye opening experience, Brees will be totally infective. The saints are not ready to face a team with as much talent as the Giants
big talk.....
the “eagals” fans said the same things before they went down
Yeah this is going to be a tough tough game
The Saints are really good..and We are playing them in their house..It will be a huge battle.
we do.....
but with a funny accent
come on 27-9 that’s a lack of respect
I totally agree
I have the utmost respect for the Saints and they are definitely one of my favorite teams, but alot of the same is going on over at CSC. This game is completely unpredictable. It could be 27-23, it could be 17-13, who knows? No one expected the Jets-Saints to go the way it did, and thats because when you have 2 competent offenses against 2 competent defenses, any unit can come up big. I’m not about to predict a score, but I will say it should be one hell of a game.
games like this is why we love football
some guys are homers and will type stuff just to type. but real fans try to respect the opponent,and give a rational point of view.
i think the giants and saints are two of the best teams in the NFL this season, either could go all the way. this is gonna be a battle royal, going down to the last play of the game.
now when talking to dallas fans all bets are off because(and i think ya’ll will agree) they truly suck,both fans and team(just kidding………..not)
Giants, 73-0
in my experiences at Blogging the Boys — and I’ve commented there 83 times in the past year, even Fanposted — I’ve never been treated rudely or attacked personally. The only Dallas fan I know personally is one of the coolest people alive.
It’s not like we’re talking about the Eggles here…
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 13, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
The Giants havet their QB...
the Eagles didn’t.
Kinda helps.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 12, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
klob is no back-up QB
he played very good, he also won offensive player of the week the following week,
the QB was not the reason philly lost, it was because the D could not stop drew brees.when was the last time someone hung 48 points on that D, i can’t remember
yea...
Kolb is a backup.
He threw entirely too much and couldn’t keep the O on the field, or the Saints O off the field.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 13, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
theQBs don't call the plays
the saints have a good run D that’s why they threw the ball.plus i don’t see how klob could keep drew off the field that the Ds job.
now, look at the numbers the saints are giving up 3.7 yds per,that’s better than the giants D(4.8 yds per),over all we give up 83.2 per game while ya’ll give up105.8
The Eagles don't run the ball....
at all. That’s their offense. That’s why he threw too much. The Eagles don’t run the ball, even tho they should have to keep from relying on a QB making his first start.
And a good QB, like McNabb or Eli, keeps the other team’s offense off the field by stringing together long, 7 or 8 minute drives, like McNabb and Eli have done countless times in their career.
Something Kolb didn’t do. Also LOL at taking seriously being named the player of the week against the Chiefs.
And again…yards per game and points per game don’t tell 1/2 of the story on why the Giants D is vastly superior. Entirely too many of those yards come in garbage time.
And the Giants D is still ranked number one in least total yardage in the game. Imagine if they didn’t have garbage time in any of their games?
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 14, 2009 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions
some say .....
every game ya’ll have played in this year was garbage time.
a superior D don’t give up 4.8 yds per to chump teams
the saints have not been behind in points yet this season
*Hmmmmm.....Interesting*
When the Giants played the Cowboys, the Boys didn’t exactly have their QB either . . . . . if you get what I mean.
by Just 'Nother Day on Oct 14, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
No way my man
No way the Giants smack them by 18 (though I would love to see it). I expect a single digits victory, but not sure for who. Going to be a damn tough game.
well if Brees is infective, let's hope
the giants bring some disinfectant to the game, cuz they already have enough injured players
look up brees' numbers in the dome.....
it’s kinda scary,but good luck with that hope
Haven't faced the true competition yet ...
but it is rather impressive how the G-Men have performed with the rash of injuries thus far.
And the only real competitive teams we will be facing in the NFC are the Saints, Eagles and Vikes. If we can be healthy for the stretch run we will see if the 2009 version can really be a dominant D. Can’t wait !!
as much as I hate to say it...
the next Dallas game is never easy, especially since they beat them…like they did.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 12, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't know where else to post this
I know QB Rating isn’t a perfect stat, but for simplicity’s sake I’m going to list Eli’s in certain situations:
Overall: 111.7, 2nd only to Big Bro and 25 points higher than his rating last year, which was his career high
When Behind (i.e. the Dallas game): 120.3
4th Quarter: 147.5
3rd Down: 151.7
Thas pretty good I guess
WOW
It takes a lot to make me raise my eyes but those stats are amazing. For a guy who has faced more criticism than any other QB in the NFL since he was drafted, I’m glad to see Eli has not only shut the doubters up but he has vaulted himself into the upper-tier of NFL QB’s. Right now, only Peyton is playing better than Eli. Not Brady, not Brees, not Little Ben, and not Rivers.
by sexyscottish on Oct 12, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Eli is the Man
I allways thought eli was a good QB, now it seems as though he just needed better faster recievers.
The O-Line is the best in the league at least 3 of them should make the probowl
Eli has proven himself..plus he is
The most unselfish QB in the league..He just puts up numbers needed to win games..and I will have to give kudos to Gilbride..He is putting together well balanced game plans thus far..Alot of these 300+ passers are carrying their teams and in many cases losing..
LOL!!!..Yeah I must say
It is tough but KG does deserve credit..I always pop two aspirins prior to giving him accolades.
gilbride's done well
maybe buddy knocked some scene into him
I'm loving these comments...
these are the reason I come on here. People think and write, not just write. You guys make so many good, valid points. Ed, I love this blog!
In Reese We Trust
Yes there are alot of folks out here that are
Pretty daggone football smart..and make very good observations..and you don’t read alot of “smack talk” from us..Every game is important, and every team we face deserves respect..There are no bums in the NFL..If you leave your guard down you’ll get bit.
we should sign t.o
we should sign t.o he wont pull that punk shhh here go NY
hell no
why would you want that cancer on our team which has great young receivers with positive attitudes?
Why on God's green earth
should we have signed t.o. We’ve got the one of the best passing attacks in the league, Smith has replaced Smith and Manningham and Nicks are studs. Give me one good reason we would want a 35 yo diva?
*AMAZING!*
The week before the Jets game all we Saints fans heard was trash talk and a lot of smack. Could it be that the Giants have fans who actually know football and understand the league??? Kudos to the Big Blue View on some serious NFL chat.
I gotta’ admit though, some of that smack was a lot of fun!!! Good luck boys.
SAINTS 34 – giants 14
by Just 'Nother Day on Oct 13, 2009 4:34 AM EDT reply actions
i'm a saints fan who's not so....
over confident. i think the saints will win( would have to turn in my who- dat card if i didn’t) but it’s gonna be close, to me who ever turns the ball over the most will lose, and our D has done a great job of getting picks,it’s sharper’s history with eli,that gives me hope.
*Back At Ya'*
This is the Saints, not the Raiders. If it makes you feel any better, I’ll give you another field goal, ok? (Of course, now I’m temped to give the Saints another touchdown!)
See ya’ in the Big Easy! Either way it’s going to be absolutely amazing!!!!!
by Just 'Nother Day on Oct 14, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly, it's the Saints
Don’t let a 4 game win streak convince you that this is a dominant franchise. The Saints are only favored by 3 because you’re at home. If the game were in Jersey, the Giants would be favored by three. You’re vaunted D has beaten a rookie, a backup, Trent (are you kidding me) Edwards, and another rookie. Let’s see how the Saints play against a real team and QB before we douse each other with the celebratory gumbo.
*And*
so far this season the Giants offense have beaten 4 high school teams and a community collage. Not fair picking on unarmed men!
(Cool comment about the “celebratory gumbo”, though!)
One thing I think we can both agree on is, BOTH of our hearts are already in our throats! Good luck boys!
by Just 'Nother Day on Oct 17, 2009 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Jet Game
wow thats some funny stuff,comparing the jets and giants. Saint fans cant be that naive,that the Jets with their first year Qb and pretty much no receivers with speed . Yeah they got off to a good start,but their not the giants I said it before and I`ll say it again 27-9 Gmen Saints are in for tough time. If you dont believe look at what we did to those Dull-Ass Cowgirls on their opening day of jerry world lol And yes we have gotten better and stronger since.Your Saint are in over your heads and you dont even see it coming I normally dont talk smack But if I`m wrong I `m the first to say so. This years Giant team is probably the best we have seen in a very long time. And the best thing about that is their so young they should be around for a long time
spoken like a jets fan
this is the kind of stuff the jets fans wuz typing, i’m glad to see most of the giant’s fans have a better understanding of the game.
and william l just like the giants are not the jets, the saints are not the dallas cry babies
your head coach is the best offensive coordinator in the NFL
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 13, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
jets
hopefully all the “experts” who were saying the jets were better than the giants after the first couple weeks have realized that they were being foolish
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