Giants vs. Raiders: 'Kudos & Wet Willies' style preview
I know this was posted as a Fanshot, but I had to celebrate the return of Carl by highlighting it here.
Considering the statistics -- the 1-3 Oakland Raiders are 32nd and last in the league in yards per game and passing yards per game. The 4-0 New York Giants are first in total defense and first in pass defense -- it would be easy to say all the Giants need to do this afternoon is show up.
The Giants have avoided that sort of attitude against weaker opponents the past two weeks, and have spent this week warning against it, as well.
"We definitely throw it out the window," defensive end Justin Tuck said. "Matter of fact, I don’t even feel comfortable talking about it. We realize that they have a young team, a lot of guys banged up. But they have a team that has a lot of speed. When they have a lot of speed and we don’t play an assignment right or something happens with a miscommunication or whatever, they can turn one play into 80 yards real quickly. So for us, even though we are number one and they are 32nd, we just want to go out there and play our style of football and let the chips fall where they may. Hopefully everything works out like the rankings say they should. But sometimes it just doesn’t happen that way."
"That team is dangerous," Tuck said. "You watch one film and you see the personnel they have. We always put speed on the board and you see their personnel and you see how they have 4.34s, 4.39s, 4.4 flats, 4.32s (in the 40-yard dash) and that can be scary sometimes. We know that we have to be on our Ps and Qs, because if you make a mistake against this team… obviously JaMarcus doesn’t have the greatest stats so far, but if we make a mistake they can go for 80 yards on one play that easily. We have to play our style of defense and play it well."
That said, whether Eli Manning plays or not this is a game the Giants should win handily. Still, I have been nagged all week by the feeling that this game won't be as easy as the victories over Tampa Bay and Kansas City. So, let's do the 'Kudos & Wet Willies' preview.
There will be lots of 'Kudos' Monday if ...
- The stats don't lie. On paper, these teams are mismatched and it should be a miserable day to be an Oakland Raider. Still, the game has to be won on the field.
- The Giants get an early lead. If the Giants get a lead it will do two things. First, it will demoralize a weaker opponent. Second, it will force the guy who might be the league's worst passer into throwing more than he wants to.
- The Giants don't make mistakes. Same as the past couple of weeks, for the Raiders to challenge the Giants our boys will have to hand them easy points or easy opportunities. Play mistake-free, it's on to face the Saints with a 5-0 record.
There will be lots of 'Wet Willies Monday if ...
- David Carr plays like the guy who got run out of Houston and Carolina. This, of course, is if Carr has to play at all. I actually have confident that Carr will play well enough if the Giants have to turn to him today, but still ... if the guy the called 'Mittens' in Carolina shows up, that will be a problem.
- The Giants insist on challenging Nnamdi Asomugha. There are plenty of things the Giants can do on offense today without trying to prove they can complete passes against the guy considered the league's best cover cornerback. I'd like to see Steve Smith catch a bunch of balls, but I want to win more.
- The Giants run out of healthy bodies. If the Giants keep getting guys hurt, Carl Banks is going to have to come out of the radio booth to suit up in the second half.
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Well all signs seem to point to
Eli starting today..I didn’t hear what the outcome of yesterday’s 4pm check-up was, but he did go thru the walkthrough drills..Asamugha is a guy to stay away from, and I don’t know how familiar Seymour has become with their defense but he is dangerous and needs attention..They also have alot of speed on that team, so we need to stay focussed..This game won’t be a cake-walk if our guys go out there flat (which so far they haven’t)..The other plus we have today is Coaching..The Raiders staff is dysfunctional..Cable is a lousy coach who has his staff totally in dis-arrray, and the players are very confused..The Hanson incident Cable caused has them all that confusion..Coaching is definitely on our side. Our players show up knowing what is going on, while their players are standing around wondering what is going on.
Lets go Gints.
That is all.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction my fried, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
STONE COLD LOCK OF THE CENTURY
…OF THE WEEK. hahaha i love it. ill be at the game today fellas, im expecting bloodshed.
by GiantsReignSupreme on Oct 11, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions
hell yes.
should be victory. Have fun at the game.
Yes this should be a happy romp..A cold beer, Hot-dog..
and a trouncing…Now that’s what I call “Clean living” guys!!!..Have fun at the game GRS!!..try took hook up with the Brit..teach him the art of tailgating..He probably is over here by now..We should have gotten his itinerary..I couldn’t show him a good time since I live in South Florida now, but I’m sure you guys could show him a good time!!..Especially Tito!..Post-game celebration at Foleys Irish Bar..Is that bar still there?..I wish I was still in NY..If our guys continue their current trend of not taking any team lightly, we are in for a very relaxing day.
Carl rocks
Giants will win this game in the neighborhood of 20-7. I don’t see it being pretty. I think the Giants are going to keep things very close to the vest, try and keep everyone healthy for next week.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Oct 11, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions
Carr
Looks like Eli will start but if he doesn’t or comes out early I have a good feeling about how Carr will perform. I don’t care what they called him in Carolina or what all the armchair psychologists say about his ptsd from playing behind a porous line in Houston. He’s got good skills, a strong arm and experience. I may have missed something along the line but everything I’ve seen of him since he’s been suiting up in Blue tells me the team is in good hands if he has to replace Eli in this, or any other game. Funny, I don’t recall seeing Lorenzen being pigeonholed the way Carr has been in different circles, and Lorenzen, as far as I’m concerned, was a joke of a backup for an elite team like the Giants to carry.
The reality of Eli’s injury is that it’s likely to plaque him and the team for the rest of the season. I’m sure Coughlin and the rest of the organization realize this. I trust that they know what they have in reserve. They’ve proven that they excell at identifying talent that’s capable, more than capable, of stepping in and up when adversity throws a monkey wrench into the works.
The Giants effin rock in every way.
Yuck, 32nd in total offense
At 208 total yards a game, i really can’t find a word for it! I didn’t realize it was that bad until i looked it up. For an NFL team, this is just plain unacceptable. Any fan base deserves better than this!
Won't be able to watch today
So I’m hoping for no drama. If kenny Phillips was healthy the Giants secondary might catch more balls from JR then the Raiders. I’m expecting something in the neighborhood of the 23-3 Denver dropped on ’em.
Giants (with Eli): 26
Raiders: 6
Go G-men!
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Haven’t heard anything to make me think anything different — all signs point to Eli Manning starting.
Yes indeed, Jim
But I think the score will be more like 35-3..Which is a risk I take since in ’86 I told the fans in the stands that we were going to score 49 on the 49-ers!!..Score: 49-3..I wish I had a lotto ticket back then!
Schedule
Giants fans,
Great win at home nut…..plz take a look at youe schedule there (lol) You have probably played the weakest schedule in all of football so far. Don’t start beating on your chest untill you finally play some one that has a team.
As for baby Eli, he has never really showed me much? Peyton proves every week that he is (great) but baby Eli is simply riding on a team that wins with (defence)
I would rate him in the area of between 10-15 out of all the NFL – Qb"s. Scoring 28 on the (Radas) does not make you great (lol) . Now if he can do that on lets say # 1 the Jets or lets say the (Saints) (Ravens) (Colts) or even the (Vikings) then yes we can say something good about him. But with the teams you have played this year, great is not a word for (Baby Eli) Ps…GO SAINTS
Sainthog..what are you smoking?
When have you guys ever won anything?..Er, never…Don’t request “plastic” at the grocery store..Ask for paper bags, so we can all watch you wearing them on your heads again..That is cool..and don’t forget to write “Aints” on the bags!
Eli's got the 2nd highest passer rating in the NFL
higher than the mighty Drew Brees. And you’re saying that Eli can’t be called a great QB b/c he doesn’t beat good teams? LOL (I can’t stress enough how absurd I find that statement) – if that’s the case, Drew Brees probably shouldn’t even be QBing a high school team. Let me know when he beats an 18-0 team in the Super Bowl or wins regular season games against all 4 teams that end up playing in the conference championships.
"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09
The thing is....
we know what we have. Most of us have been Giants fans for a long time. Long enough to know that no matter how good they are, they always used to play to their comp.
If these games were close, I’d be saying that too about the weak schedule. But the scores of these games, aside from the Dallas one (and BTW, NFC BEast division games are NEVER a soft part of the schedule), don’t tell a 1/3 of the story. The Giants have blew every single one of these teams out.
And the problem against the Cowboys was not Eli, tho you’d probably say it was all defense in that one too wouldn’t ya!
As for Eli not showing you much…well apparently anyone who isn’t a Giants fan really has no clue what this guy has done.
I always love how the GIants “win with defense”, yet they scored plenty of points when Eli won the SB and last year led the league in points for most of the season. In the playoffs, the running game was non-existant, they scored no defensive TD"s either. Who the HELL DO YOU THINK SCORED THOSE POINTS!??? Cuz it sure as hell wasn’t the ST.
No one here gives a shit about how anyone "rates’ a QB either. If Eli’s leading the league, he’s overrated..whatever.
Giants 5-0, Saints 4-0.
Giants have an offensive juggernaut (literally and figuratively…) and a defensive juggernaut as well.
Saints? Offensive juggernaut (tho somehow the Jets? shut you down? REALLY!?) and an average defense (regardless of how good a rookie QB made you look….).
Yea, you got Eli’s kryptonite in Darren Sharper, but I think that’s part of the checklist for this Sunday. We’ll see.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
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