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New York Giants' notebook, 01.08.09

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Peter King of SI.com came out with his 2008 All-Pro Team on Wednesday. I was a little surprised by the two Giants King selected -- defensive tackle Fred Robbins and center Shaun O'Hara.

Both of them are terrific players and probably deserve the nod, but it is usually commonly accepted that the Giants' best offensive lineman is Chree Snee and best defensive lineman is Justin Tuck.

Oh, that idiot wide receiver who played for the Giants before shooting himself made Don Banks' 2008 All-Disappointment Team. So did that tight end who got himself traded to New Orleans.

  • Speaking of Tuck, his ailing knee is still a concern heading into Sunday's game. We have to hope he is at least close to healthy because the Giants need him to make some plays.
  • As for Snee, he took a little jab at quarterback Eli Manning Wednesday. By the way, I keep seeing references to the ESPN the Magazine article with the Giants' offensive line on the cover. How come mine showed up with the Tennessee Titans defensive line on the front? I do live in New York.
  • Michael Strahan shared some perspective on this weekend's Eagles-Giants matchup with the Philadelphia Daily News. Among other things, Strahan wonders why Donovan McNabb doesn't get more love from Philly fans. It's a good question.

Here are a couple of non-Giants thought for the day.

  • The Browns have hired Eric Mangini as coach. Mangini's former team, the New York Jets, have become a laughingstock. The Jets have the Brett Favre fiasco. They blew a chance to get Bill Cowher as coach because owner Woody Johnson decided to go on vacation instead of interviewing the guy. They helped get a college coach (Jeff Jagodzinski) fired by talking to him without the school's permission. What a mess! Thank God I'm not a Jets' fan.
  • 'Pacman' Jones is apparently 'surprised' by his release from the Cowboys. There are really only two surprises here. One, that it took the Cowboys this long. Two, that the young man is still alive considering all the trouble he finds.

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Strahan's perspective:

“The Giants are a team that needs to play with a chip on its shoulder,” said Strahan.

“That’s what makes Antonio Pierce play well – the fact that he’s doubted,” Strahan said. “I’m sure he’ll be stressing that the rest of this week.”

God, I hope so.

by potroast on Jan 8, 2009 8:23 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, there's plenty of chip for the Giants shoulder this week

With everyone pretty much handing the game to the Eagles. Why even play? The Giants are a great team, with the potential for New England-like dominance. You’d never know it from what you read in the national press. All we hear is how the Eagles are like last year’s Giants, implying that the Giants are like last year’s poser, fake-a$$ Cowboys. Nothing is further from the truth. Against a healthy Giants team, the Eagles have NO chance. The Giants are getting NO respect here. Don’t be fooled by the -4 spread. The bookies will take your money.

by MJ20 on Jan 8, 2009 9:11 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If the Giants win

I am going to have SOOO much fun with the “This year’s Giants” thing! Of course, if they lose, I will have to wait for Philly to inevitably lose, then go skulking over there like a sore loser to taunt them about being this year’s Giants.
It would be so much better of THIS YEAR’S GIANTS would knock out “this year’s Giants.”

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Jan 8, 2009 9:28 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Way to bash a man while hes down

‘Pacman’ Jones is apparently ‘surprised’ by his release from the Cowboys. There are really only two surprises here. One, that it took the Cowboys this long. Two, that the young man is still alive considering all the trouble he finds.

Why should pacman news even be making our front page. Your writing gets ridiculous sometimes. As much as I hate the cowboys and the majority of the people over at the cowboys blog. Go read Rafael Velas write ups. That man knows football and does some incredible break downs for that blog. Wish we could get a guy like him over here. But thank you for your non-giant thoughts of the day, its truly why I come and read this blog.

by Giantsfan77 on Jan 8, 2009 11:01 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

-1

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Jan 8, 2009 11:12 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously, you are being unfair

Big Blue View provides you with updated Giants information all day long, sometimes 4 and 5 new stories a day. With the exception of the “wednesday walk around the NFL”, 90% of what you read on here is about the Giants. Go look at any other Giants blog on the internet, and see if they are giving you as much fresh Giants info as you get here on a daily basis.

The Cowboys are the Giants biggest rival, if something happens to them, I think most Giants fans will forgive the guy who runs this blog for TWO freaking lines of commentary about it. It was plainly stated those were “Non-Giants thoughts”, so if you aren’t interested in them, why read them and comment on them? You are only lending credence to the fact that they are thought provoking.

And by the way, I do read Rafeal Velas, and he does know football, and if you are a regular reader of this site, you would know that his blog has been linked here in the past.

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jan 8, 2009 11:35 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"I love me some me"

That’s the best quote that’s come out of this whole mess. Pacman’s IQ might – just might – be lower than Forrest Gump’s.

by Cody K on Jan 8, 2009 1:16 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's get some things straight here

Gang, I appreciate all of you who have stepped in and defended me in the wake of this rather nasty comment by ‘Giantsfan77’. I am a big boy, though, so it’s time for me to step up and handle it.
77, I am not sure what your issue is here. I am sure that your comment was a personal attack on me, and that is not going to be tolerated. The rule is simple — attack the post, not the poster. I write mostly opinion, so I expect people to disagree with me at times — sometimes even strongly. That is fine, and it makes this blog great.
The other thing that makes this blog great is that it is a community — a family, if you will — of fans who love the Giants. We do not, and will not, personally attack each other on this site. Disagree, sure. But, we will be friendly about it.
As for Pacman, it is my intent to give readers here stuff to talk about that they will be interested. sorry, but big news about the arch-rival Cowboys is something most folks here like to discuss. In case you did not notice, Bleeding Green did an entire post on Pacman.
I did not personally attack Pacman. Tell me logically how Pacman could possibly be surprised that the Cowboys would release him in the wake of his latest troubles? He has been extremely fortunate to get as many opportunities as he has been given. Also, saying he is lucky to be alive since he has a habit of being around nightclub shootings is hardly an attack. Fact is, he needs to change if he wants to live to be an old man.
If you don’t like the subject matter presented here, the style of writing or the rules of the community you don’t have to be here.

— Ed

by Ed Valentine on Jan 8, 2009 1:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm more suprised

that Robbins didn’t make the pro bowl, then that he made King’s All-Pro. He’s been playing out of his mind for the last three seasons and this has been his best yet I think. Plus it helps that King is definitely a Giant’s fan

by queler on Jan 8, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Way to bash a man when he's down"

Actually the poster was absolutely correct jrs. You think you’re some kind of expert? If you really want to know how to bash a man when he’s down , you need to provide explicit instruction, along with quotes provided by O.J. Simpson, Ray Lewis (allegedly) , and pacman himself. They have the first hand experience! (allegedly)

We're only gonna score 17 points?

by big blue wrecking crew on Jan 8, 2009 12:31 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oops meant to pick on ETval today, not jrs

just assumed it was jrs’ from the style! You guys are rubbing off on each other…………..jrs still has the high total for unheard of before grammar though.

We're only gonna score 17 points?

by big blue wrecking crew on Jan 8, 2009 2:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have to be honest

I wasn’t sure if you were kidding or not

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jan 8, 2009 2:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BBWC

Luv ya, but I’m not sure I follow your comment at all. I don’t have any idea where this thought that I was attacking Pacman came from. As I said earlier, let’s remember that we are friends here.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 8, 2009 2:54 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was being totally facetious

No ill will at all here guys.

We're only gonna score 17 points?

by big blue wrecking crew on Jan 8, 2009 3:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's tough

to get recognition on a line that featured HOF Strahan, and All-Pro’s Tuck, Osi. I’ve heard Osi’s name brought up more recently than Robbins. But I love the guy who stuffs the run. Anytime I line up on D in Madden 08, I start with Robbins.

by ProudYankee on Jan 8, 2009 12:58 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One of the things I love about this blog is that there's actually editorial content.

Pacman Jones is not a hard done by individual. He’s had every oppurtunity to be successful and he’s screwed it up with bad decisions.
That said, I find Giantsfan77’s blog to be informative and insightful. Oh wait, he doesn’t have one.

by NYcON on Jan 8, 2009 1:09 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait

In the Strahan article, I saw this: “He routinely speaks with former teammate Jessie Armstead, now a first-year coach for the Giants.”

How did I not know that Armstead was a Giants coach? He was my favorite player in the post-LT era, and I’m pretty excited to know that he’s back with the team. What is he, a LB coach?

by cjmulrain on Jan 8, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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