We Need......

by GiantsCauseway on Jan 6, 2009 7:15 AM EST Comment 23 comments

FIELD POSITION....activate Laurence Tynes for kick-off duty, Carney has a weak leg. A PASS RUSH....the blitz paxkage has exposed the secondary too much, we need something out of the D-Line .Zero-Cuahion For Their Receivers....this 10 yard pass or the quick slant needs to be disrupted at the line of scrimmage. A BIG DEFENSIVE PLAY....to shift momentum quickly. RUN, RUN, RUN....A steady diet of Brandon Jacobs & Ward will wear down Philly & keep their offence on the sidelines. PLAY CALLING....no stupid trick plays out of Gilbride, see previous entry Kevin, STEVE SMITH & KEVIN BOSS,,,,no drops. LUCK....couldn't hurt.

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Consider it done....

All of it.

I think the Giants will have two kickers active for Sunday

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jan 6, 2009 8:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Why...

So Tynes can kick it out of bounds again?

I understand the complaints on Carney’s KO’s being too short, and they are valid. The flip side of that is the coverage has been better w/Carney’s KO’s resulting in a longer field for the opponent.

Carney this year:

79 KO’s – 60.4 Avg – 21.8 yds avg return = Opponent Avg Starting position = 31.4 yrd line

Tynes this year:

14 KO’s – 64.0 Avg – 26.8 yds avg return – Opponent Avg Starting Position = 32.8 yrd line

If I include the TB’s and KOB numbers in those totals, they only improve Carney’s numbers compared to Tynes. In the grand scheme of things, it’s not a huge difference, but I’ll still take Carney over Tynes for every kicking situation, any day of the week.

Ultimately the Giants will need to get another kicker this offseason. Whether that’s in the draft, FA, or even trade, I don’t know. I think it’s safe to say anyone associated with the Giants, team or fans, want somone who is both accurate on KO’s and XP’s, but can hit the endzone on KO’s. Unfortunately neither kicker they have now can do both…actually neither can hit the endzone of KO’s with any regularity.

by Intellectual Derriere on Jan 6, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know if he's a senior

but sign me up for the kicker from Ohio St. That kid nailed a 51 yarder last night (granted, it was in a dome, but for a college kicker, 50+ yards is impressive no matter what). Ohio St. has always had good kickers…too bad the rest of their squad is always overrated.

by cjmulrain on Jan 6, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I never said

Tynes would be the other kicker. Joe Danelo is TANNED RESTED AND READY BABY!

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Jan 7, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

NYT Articles from a few weeks ago

Did anyone see that NYT article from a few weeks ago that analyzed field position and the average points scored per starting yardline? I will look for the graphic and analysis, but the difference between starting at the 20 yr line or starting at the 30 yrd line was something like.25pts per possession. I will look for it again, but they were trying to make an argument for the current way yards are measured with the sticks and not some new more accurate technology. One of the results of the study was the scoring margins on field positions between the 20 yrd line and the 35 yrd line was minor on a per possession basis.

So, I would rather have another Defensive back or LB on the roster to manage westbrook than spend it on 2 kickers.

by losangelesmets on Jan 7, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

AP

said if they start on the 35 they can get a 3 and out and still leave the offense starting inside the 20, that’s not good

by queler on Jan 7, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Case in Point

Indy vs. San Diego.

Very frustrating to give the opposing team a short field and start within your own 20. UGH!!!!

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jan 7, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That's a good reason to have Hixon return punts,

but I understand why they don’t. I’d like to see Manningham get a shot at it, but TC won’t do it this year.

by blue gonz on Jan 7, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

several good points

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Jan 6, 2009 8:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

D-line especially needed rest

Therefore I think we’ll see the same D-line that we saw most of the year until the last few weeks. Tuck & Kiwi looked absolutely gassed (& sick) in those games.

by potroast on Jan 6, 2009 9:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs