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Touring the Nation, 1.27.09

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Every so often throughout the off-season I will go Touring SB Nation blogs for interesting tidbits from around the league. Here is what I found today.

  • Canal Street Chronicles is running a 2008 Season Autopsy series about the New Orleans Saints. Guess who was the first topic of conversation? Disappointing ex-Giant tight end Jeremy Shockey. 'Chronicles' labels Shockey's '08 season 'a waste' and wonders if he will ever be worth the 2nd and 5th-round picks the Giants will get. All I know is the Giants are thrilled to have the picks.
  • Blogging the Boys has some thoughts on the story that Dan Reeves might be interested in returning to the Cowboys as a consultant.
  • The Miami Dolphins have signed wide receiver Brandon London for next season, and The Phinsider is wondering exactly what Miami is getting. London, if you remember, was extremely impressive in Giants' training camp last summer and simply lost out in the logjam at receiver. I wish the Giants still had him.
  • Arrowhead Pride is wondering if former Kansas City Chief linebacker Derrick Thomas should be enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
  • Mocking The Draft, SB Nation's primary NFL Draft site, has its first mock draft up. MTD has the Giants selecting North Carolina wide receiver Hakeem Nicks with their first pick.

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It's funny looking back on

how long some Giants’ fans clung to the hope we’d keep Shock. His flamboyant style sucked a lot of folks into believing he was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Damn, first Mix, now London, both the kind of big WRs we need if we’ve seen the last of Plax. Hell, we could use another one, anyway.

by blue gonz on Jan 27, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

Re: London

He was a quality WR with promise. He caught everything and made some plays.

You can’t hang on to them all, however – and with higher draft picks (ie guaranteed $) ahead of him (Manningham, Moss) he had little chance to make the team anyway.

With Miami on the other hand…he could have a shot to get some real PT.

by Cody K on Jan 27, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

Please, don't remind me of Moss

My only hope for him is that maybe KG didn’t use him properly and if KG leaves, maybe…
From what I’ve seen, he has nothing but speed. Can’t seem to get clear, has bad hands, and doesn’t know what to do when he actually catches something. I strongly suspect he won’t be with the team another season. Oh well, it’s not like losing McCaffery or Jurevicious. We knew they’d be good when the Giants chose not to keep them.
London will be a keeper for Miami.

by blue gonz on Jan 27, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

The irony of losing Mix and London is

that management to a large extent probably based those decisions on the fact that, having Plax, they didn’t need another big WR.

by blue gonz on Jan 27, 2009 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

sorry ed but we are getting a 1st and 5th pick

vilma will be resigned by the saints which makes the saints second rounder (instead of their 3rd) go to the jets which leaves us w/ the saints first rounder which is pick #14 overall hel ya

by shenkthetank92 on Jan 27, 2009 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

No, no, no

We will not get the Saints 1st round pick. We get a 2 and a 5. It’s all right here. Vilma would have to be re-signed by Feb. 27, and the Saints won’t do that.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 27, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm

this says they want too http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20090124/UPDATES02/90123037

Either way, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES do we get the Saint’s #1 this year.

by queler on Jan 28, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's a question...

If a rookie receiver in the first 38 catches of his NFL career averaged 10.6 yards per catch for a total of 403 yards, and scored two touchdowns would we consider that guy a bust?

Those are the stats for Sinorice Moss, who, by the way, also happens to be the second fastest receiver on the squad by one tenth of a second. If you’re talking speed, he’s got it.

Considering that he has been injured for about one third of his NFL career I think we need to throw him a few more passes before we write him off.

by giant fan since 57 on Jan 28, 2009 4:55 AM EST reply actions  

Good research, 57

The stats surprise. My memories of him after a catch were that he seems to freeze up for a moment, think about what he’s going to do rather than react instinctively. The YACs belie that notion, but the prevailing opinion seems to be that he’s been a bust. Do you know how many times the ball was thrown to him? Maybe the conjecture that he hasn’t been used properly is correct.
He and Hix are the only true deep threats on the team. Unfortunately, Eli hasn’t been a ball of fire throwing the long ball.
Moss’s injuries, like Wilkinson’s are a concern. They both seem fragile. I do think the Giants are going to take a close look at him during training camp. As TerraByte says, the key might be health rather than talent.
I can’t wait to see who our WRs and LBs are after training camp.

by blue gonz on Jan 28, 2009 7:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

Both of these guys have reliabilty issues.

by giant fan since 57 on Jan 29, 2009 6:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if Reeves got caught

in the Madoff scandal or one of the other Ponzi schemes and needs the money?

by TerraByte on Jan 28, 2009 6:14 AM EST reply actions  

Other Ponzi schemes

Are you referring to the biggest one in history, the one the Government is running, paying off banks’ old creditors with new money coming in, taxpayer money?

by blue gonz on Jan 28, 2009 7:05 AM EST reply actions  

As Richard Nixon said,

“…we’re all Keynesians now.”

by blue gonz on Jan 28, 2009 7:07 AM EST reply actions  

My vote is for the

Federal Reserve. How many BBVers are aware that it’s not a government entity? It’s a private bank, not a public one. We don’t even know who currently owns it, although we know who the original owners were (JP Morgan, the Rothschilds, etc.) Here’s a quote from Woodrow Wilson a few years after he signed the law creating it in 1913:
“…I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled and one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world, no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the duress and opinion of a small group of dominant men.”
Jefferson’s words of opposition to a central bank were far harsher then Wilson’s. Andrew Jackson’s signature moment was his dissolution of the first central bank.
Enough, lest I extend this into a tedious rant (if it isn’t already such.)

by blue gonz on Jan 28, 2009 7:55 AM EST reply actions  

Wow

I’ve never seen that quote before. Very telling.

by potroast on Jan 28, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Right cj, I'm more of a libertarian than anything else.

Here’s a quote from another source, definitely non libertarian, that provides food for thought:
“Owners of capital will stimulate the working class to buy more and more expensive goods, houses and technology, pushing them to take on more and more debt until the debt becomes unbearable. The unpaid debt will lead to the bankruptcy of all banks, which will have to be nationalized and the state will take the road which will eventually lead to communism.” Karl Marx, of course. Looks prescient at this moment re the banks. For the most part, they’re insolvent. Right now we’re trying to get out of debt by taking on unprecedented amounts of more and far greater debt. That’s Bernanke’s theory. IT’s based on the fact that it was the only thing that wasn’t tried during the Great Depression. Will it work? I’m skeptical.
Never fear, the games will continue, a pleasant diversion from reality. We have little to say about what happens (just look at the people who make up Obama’s economic team, the same ones who got us into the mess in the first place.) So, go Cards!

by blue gonz on Jan 28, 2009 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

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