Something to think about?

by alireza317 on Jan 21, 2009 9:46 PM EST Comment 10 comments

I know this is not related to the Giants but I was just thinking about this. Jon Gruden gets fired the other day and he has won a Super Bowl in Tampa Bay recently. Then we look at the situation with the Bengals. Marvin Lewis has had limited success with them since he took over as their coach. He still has a job. Then lets look at the Bills after starting off hot they fizzled and missed the playoffs but Dick Jauron gets fired. Then take a look at Kansas City Herm Edwards did really did nothing with the Jets and has not done anything with K.C. so why does he still have a job? Gary Kubiak still has not done anything with the Texans and he still has job. I don't understand it. The following Coaches are out of jobs who actually have won games and the others who have done nothing still have jobs

Winners Losers

Mike Shannhan-Denver Marvin Lewis-Cin.

Jon Gruden-Tampa Herm Edwards-KC

B. Billick- Balt. Dick Jauron-Buff.

What gives doesn't winning mean anything anymore?

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Well you could say that Gruden won that SB with Dungy’s players.

by Ben16 on Jan 21, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Also

in Herm’s defense, he’s the only Jets coach besides Parcells to win the NFC East, and he took them to the playoffs 3 times in 5 years and won 2 playoff games, which pretty much makes him one of the top 3 coaches in Jets history. That said, he’s an awful, awful coach, and I think his Jets teams actually underachieved, not overachieved. The Jets have had a lot of talent this decade, they just haven’t been able to put it together.

by cjmulrain on Jan 21, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

on another note

I’m not a Yankees fan, but that’s an awesome avatar.

by cjmulrain on Jan 22, 2009 11:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

Now come to the dark side! Feel the Power!

by alireza317 on Jan 23, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Never

I’ll never turn to the Dark Side. You’ve failed, alireza. I am a Mets fan, like my father before me

by cjmulrain on Jan 24, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

??

Then lets look at the Bills after starting off hot they fizzled and missed the playoffs but Dick Jauron gets fired.

Jauron is still the head coach of the Bills.

Did you bother looking that up?

by Cody K on Jan 22, 2009 12:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I mean't

to say he doesn’t get fired

by alireza317 on Jan 23, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Gruden did win a Super Bowl

but he did it with a team that was mostly assembled by Dungy. He did not win a play-off game after that and had about a .500 record. Remember that the Bucs did give up something like four draft picks (high ones if I recall) and a lot of cash to get him away from the Raiders too. Chucky is not quite the evil mastermind people would have you believe.

by brisulph on Jan 23, 2009 7:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

In his defense

Then you can say he beat the Raiders who where his players in the Super Bowl because we all know Callahan could not take the Raiders anywhere the next couple of years.

by alireza317 on Jan 23, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It's all about managing expectations

Denver and Tampa had huge expectation, and both managed a 2007 Met like collapse this year. Baltimore was perennially a bridesmaid after winning that super bowl. Less would expected of the teams that kept their coaches and they had some built in excuses(Cin-No Palmer, Buf-Trent Edwards getting hurt)

by DoctorK16 on Jan 25, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs