I guess because KC sucked so bad I did not realize what Gonzalez’s stats were, but thats pretty good for a bad team and with Tyler Thigpin as your QB. If you think about it, its a very good move because you don’t have to give up much because of his age. You can draft a Kenny Britt (RU guy) late in the first round or second round. And give them a year or two to develop. Sign a cheaper FA WR like Shaun McDonald from the Lions to add a possion WR. TG is good in the Red Zone an obvious area of weakness and he can’t be covered by Saftey’s alone so it could open up Smith, Hixon & Boss in 2 TE formations. We’ll see but I like it. Very Giant Like

KG does not like to utalize the TE in his offense. Figures

It would be great to have a big threat at tight end in short yardage/redzone situations. It could also free up Steve Smith to work in space like he did before Plax did himself in. Also, I can only drool at the thought of a line-up with Gonzalez and Burress if he comes back.

TG has the size and he solves a lot of problems in the Green Zone. Garafalo is saying exactly what I’ve been saying … the options we’ve been discussing are both (maybe) unrealistic (Boldin) and don’t solve our need of presence in the offense now (TJ & draftee). This solves both of those issues and it pulls the secondary help out of run D, since without Plax defenses could load up in the box. And Landeta is right, draft a big WR and let him develop because TG might only have a couple of good years in him. Hell, this probably will help Boss develop into that guy. It doesn’t hurt to test the waters for Boldin, but this is an easy match & you don’t have to give up the world for him.

Oh yea that is pretty good. I know some Giant fans are down on Hixon but I really believe if he’s paired up with a legitiment #1 he could be a very good #2 deep threat. Remember this was his first year starting as a WR in his carreer and he is very young. He came in a tough spot and showed he can make a play or two. Not a dominating force by any means and he needs some support on the other end but if anther team is forced to put their 2nd or 3rd corner on him one on one he can hit a home run.

this idea. I was a big-time supporter of the move back around the trade deadline, and nothing has changed my stance. Gonzalez is a play-maker, and I bet he’s still got 2 solid years left in him, which is all we really need right now. He’d be the perfect insurance policy for Plax – he can be Eli’s safety blanket if Plax doesn’t come back to the Giants next year, or if Plax does come back, we have two huge weapons in the pass game. Do it yesterday, Jerry!

Gilfuck like to spread the field, 2 TEs with a few wideouts or bradshaw coming out of the backfield to receive would really give defenses a lot of places to be.
I’m really pissed off today, and all I can think about is that there’s no GD excuse why the Giants did not run for 250 yards on Sunday and have 40 minutes of possession.

A 2 TE formation with Gonzalez and Boss would be great because the Giants could run or pass effectively without tipping off the defense.

As for the Gilbride situation, if he doesn’t like the TE, he could just split Gonzalez off the line like a WR on passing downs. The Colts do this very effectively with Dallas Clark.

who are excellent receivers, with one or both occasionally split wide, creates all kinds of matchup problems for defenses. This is a great idea.

One thing I hate about the Yankees is they’re always throwing large chunks money at players who’s best days are behind them, and then they go to the Yanks and just stink up the place. In baseball you can get away with that, especially if you’re the Yanks.

But in football, where we have a salary cap, and one injury could sideline a player for the whole season, I don’t know if Tony Gonzalez, is worth it.

I guess I’d have to trust Jerry Reese. He’s been near perfect so far in his decision making.

JR made a blunder by not doing the first TG deal. Of course he had no way of knowing that Cheddar Plax would shoot himself in the leg. But TG would have helped a lot.

It also has the added feature of giving Eli another great target for SHORTER passes, hello.

in saying I’m not thrilled with this idea. Sure, Gonzales put up pretty decent numbers this season. He was also one of the only reliable veteran targets on an offense that struggled with consistency. I also don’t believe putting another sure-handed TE on the field will solve the challenges this offense suffered, which in my mind was stretching the defense and getting the safeties out of the box and forcing the DBs further off the LOS. In fact, regularly pulling a WR off the field to put in another TE might only compound the problem.

The parallels between BE and Plax are interesting:

Both were young guys labeled as “head cases” and each had their share of high-profile mistakes. Both had spoken openly to the press about their situations in the City they were playing and both had worn out their welcome. Both were (ARE!) maddening talents frequently plagued by a lack of concentration.

This would be a good example of low risk, high reward. I think that Braylon is the kind of guy that just needs a solid core around him. Clearly he’s talented…and he’s a prototypical #1 WR.

Back during the season, when the Gonzalez rumors were flying, I did this story

http://www.bigblueview.com/2008/10/11/633186/giants-pursuing-tony-gonza

Doctor K made this statement in that thread:

and he gives you plax blow up insurance

We had no idea how right he was at the time

From scout.com

Tight Ends Who Should Get Starter Consideration

Owen Daniels/Houston Texans/RFA – He’s having a breakout season and the former fourth-round pick out of the 2006 draft should get at least a first-round tender from Houston.

Bo Scaife/Tennessee Titans/UFA – Tennessee has a run based offense, but when they throw it, there’s a good chance it’s going Scaife’s way. He’s having a breakout season and should receive significant interest in free agency. He probably fits best in a West Coast offense because of his athleticism and movement skills.

L.J. Smith/Philadelphia Eagles/UFA – The former second-round pick out of the 2003 draft has been somewhat of a disappointment. However, because of the lack of available veteran talent, Smith could still receive a decent of interest in free agency.

As far as WRs, and Im not up to date enough to know who got extensions but T.J. Houshmandzadeh is a great WR. He consistently out plays Ocho Cinco.

Arent Roy Williams and Lee Evans on the market or did they get extensions? I think roy may have as part of the trade but he didnt seem to happy in bigD.

One other guy we want to look at if AZ doesnt keep him is Karlos Dansby. Hes a beast of a LB

Trade for Tony, sign Housh.

The reasons in that article lead me to believe that some sort of piece should be brokered b/t Plax and Coughlin, b/c there is no one else available to fill his spot; a trade being an unsure thing, and available free agents lacking Burress physical presence.

Trading anything for a 33 year old TE is suspect, i dont see how this would aid Boss’ development either, w/o Gonzalez, I would not be surprised to see Boss playing in Miami next year the week before the superbowl-remember the NFLs newest attempt to get the Pro Bowl legitimacy…what a crock.

Anyway, our best option is Burress b/c he wont cost us any draft picks or extra cash and wont hinder the development of a future pro bowl TE in Boss, Furthermore Darcy Johnson looks like he can be a more than suitable second TE; look at what Shiancoe did in Minnesota this year, Johnson seems to have the same ability and is bigger.

I was in favor of this during the year, but Boss is proving himself to be a stud in the making and another diamond in the rough find by Reese

So short of trading for CJ or Boldin, bring back Plax (if he’s not imprisoned) Gonzalez still wouldnt address our lack of a WR, Boss is enough of a Red Zone target.

before we worry about trading for more receivers.

in the games I have watched (remember, I don’t have satellite) Clark played very well. I also like Wilkinson. He has a great nose for the ball and some speed. Good at breaking up a play too. But so far he has not been too durable.

Everyone will be on me for saying this but if I were Reese I would find a way to honorably dispose of Toomer. I can’t see getting rid of Moss before him. I know, I know, Toomer has made some fantastic clutch catches, but there comes a time for every wide out to ride off into the suset before they embarrass themselves like Chris Carter did at the end. I’m going out on a limb and saying that Moss right now has more upside than Toomer.

Moss has more speed than anyone we have. the right offensive coach should be able to take advantage of that. Steve Smith is definitely a keeper, as is Hixon, though there is no reason he shouldn’t be returning kickoffs. We’ve yet to see what Manningham can do and we also have a couple of young guys to test.

Yeah, we don’t have Plaxico but looking at it realistically, based on the greatest need, we’ve got to fix this linebacker situation before it kills us.

The Giants can still be proud of this season. But the quest for perfection must go on. The one thing missing from the Giant’s legacy is the dynasty tag associated with dominating a decade with multiple Super Bowl wins which the 49’s, Steelers, Patriots, and (ugh!) the Cowboys enjoy.

How about Gruden getting the axe!

Or, who knows, maybe I forgot it like a lot of things these days I can’t seem to remember….ha ha. Interesting to speculate about how that might have turned out.

Not trying to intrude on your personal life, but didn’t I read that your new name on the board is the result of a move to the midwest? Recently Ed suggested that we all get together for a weekend at training camp next year. I think that would be a great idea. If we got to meet in person I think it would enhance our daily experiences of communicating on the board.

   I sure don’t miss that. It’s funny, I spent a lot of years in New England and never thought twice about escaping the cold. Freezing our butts off every year just seemed normal. Even when I moved south it wasn’t to escape the climate but once I got here it was great. Did you know that there are less than 65 sunny days each year in New England? Nowadays when I go back I feel like a visiter from another country and I can’t believe I tolerated that kind of weather for so long.

   The only thing I miss about the weather in Mass is the cool summer weather, and the great smallmouth bass fishing in crystal clear lakes like Quabbin reservoir and Lake Winnipesaukee.