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New York Giants' notebook, 1.13.09

Here are some New York Giants' notes as we continue to review the wreckage left by the Giants' season-ending loss to the Philadelphia Eagles Sunday.

Coughlin: Plays on the field weren't made

Plaxico Burress just destroyed one season. But he is still 6-foot-5 and one of the best wide receivers in pro football, so the Giants say they are ready to welcome him back with open arms.

So he can destroy another one.

This is a bad idea, and before it turns into reality, the Giants should put an end to it now. They cannot take Burress back, not after his reckless behavior in that Manhattan nightclub was the single biggest factor in this shot at greatness wasted. ...

The Giants still need that game-changing receiver, and it is up to Reese to find one. But he needs to find another one, preferably one who didn't spend the first half of the season unapologetically breaking team rules and the second half in handcuffs.

Burress already ruined this season for the Giants. They shouldn’t give him the chance to ruin another. He was a huge distraction with his irresponsibility — he was suspended one game, benched the first quarter of another — even before he pulled the trigger. By the time Burress shot himself, there was no mechanism for the Giants to get a quality replacement for the playoff run. Now they have eight months to find someone else.

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A few thoughts

I was watching the highlights from the last Super Bowl last night – and re. the pass play on the Helmet Catch: watch that again. Eli throws a wounded duck. I mean that thing is a serious wobbler. So, I guess my point is, he doesn’t need to throw the best looking ball: he just needs to put it on the money. I keep thinking back to that first pass to Steve Smith where it glanced off of his fingertips. Ugh. I’m still so mad.

Anyway, the other thought I had was this: everyone compared the Gmen last yr to the Patriots when they beat the Rams. Well, the next yr the Pats didn’t make it to the Super Bowl (which was the yr. the Bucs beat the Raiders): yet they won the next two SB’s (over Carolina and Philly) to start their dynasty years. Point is: this team will be back; and will be that much more focused next year. The team won’t be so unlucky with injuries and will catch more breaks with the schedule.

Point is: they will be back. Simple as that.

by Cody K on Jan 13, 2009 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

Injuries

Being injury free (after Osi) is the main reason they got to 11-1. It was a remarkable injury-free streak. Better to get some short-term injuries early and be healthy late.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Jan 13, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Eli can't throw wounded ducks on windy days in NJ

Last years wounded duck to Tyree was thrown on a warm evening in Arizona. Before the Giants make it back to a warm weather Super Bowl, Eli needs learn how to get to ball to open receivers on windy days in the Meadowlands.

by CNJGiants on Jan 13, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Super Bowl

was in a dome. So it was even better than just being a warm day. There was no wind whatsoever

by cjmulrain on Jan 13, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

for that matter

the wounded duck in the Super Bowl was perhaps excusable because he had just escaped a massive pass rush and barely had time to set himself; he was getting good protection at least early in the game on Sunday and there was no excuse for those wobblers

by JoshNY on Jan 14, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

politi and myers are pathetic cowards

good to see plax’ actual teammates arent so sniveling.

shaun o’hara is a scarlet knight and a great man.

by kendynamo on Jan 13, 2009 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

Man you love Plax.

That’s all I get out of your comments of late.

by Woogie526 on Jan 13, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

There's that word cowards. Again. You suppsedly left the site for good

 using it. They’re reporters telling it as they see it. That’s what they get paid for. You think they’re hiding behind their anaonymity as you accused BBvers who don’t share your views re Plax? Now you’re back spewing the same garbage. Grow up,man, and keep a civil tongue in your gourd.

by blue gonz on Jan 13, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Dynamo

That’s twice in two days you have called the folks here at BBV cowards. C’mon, man. People can disagree w/out name-calling. If you can’t then find someplace else to vent your anger.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 13, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Suspicious

Has anyone ever seen kendynamo and Plaxico in the same place???

by drunkUncle on Jan 13, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

That got a chuckle.

by Woogie526 on Jan 13, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

dont be so sensitive ed

the last few days have been emotional for all gaints fan and i could not help myself from commenting. im sorry i find certain ideas that have gained currency around here to be quite cowardly. i still enjoy this site and read most posts and felt compelled to represent the pro plax debate. so again, sorry you or other people took offense for being called a coward but c’mon, give me a break. have some thicker skin.

by kendynamo on Jan 14, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

"Coward"

noun
1. a person who lacks courage in facing danger, difficulty, opposition, pain, etc.; a timid or easily intimidated person.
–adjective
2. lacking courage; very fearful or timid.

I don’t think anyone on here lacks any courage. In fact, I think saying that we should suspend our best receiver for the season is more courageous than saying we should rush him back just so we can win. But really, nothing fans do while supporting their team is courageous or cowardly, other than wearing your teams paraphernalia in Philadelphia.

by cjmulrain on Jan 14, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I went to a Mets-Phillies game at CBP

earlier this year with my college roommate (Eagles/Phillies fan). I was wearing my David Wright jersey with my Giants Super Bowl Champs t-shirt underneath. We went to Chickie & Pete’s before the game, I was the only non-Philly fan in there for about an hour…I actually got booed as we were being led to our seats. I don’t know how I survived that whole day, to be honest.

by cjmulrain on Jan 14, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Irrespective of his past transgressions

I’m actually happy to hear the Giants players willing to forgive, though not forget, a person who is for now a teammate. Had they thrown Plaxico under the bus and subtly blamed him for their recent loss, I would have had less respect for the players left behind.

by rzor on Jan 13, 2009 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

Let's forgive Plaxico and wish him well elsewhere...

Made many big plays, has lots of talent but…too much ego. Pouts when he doesn’t get his way, can’t be bothered to run every route, consumed with himself. And in my opinion, most importantly will never stay out of trouble. We’ve already paid the price for his departure this year . Let’s not start the whole mess over again next year.

The Giants can’t just give lip service to keeping the high standards we are all so proud to point at.. Let him go.

by giant fan since 57 on Jan 13, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions  

don't care

pouting or no, he made the team better when he was on the field, and that’s the most important thing.

by JoshNY on Jan 14, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Plax

There are several issues the Giants have to consider, not the least of which are the contractual / salary cap issues.

Let’s say for a second that he is cleared of all charges. Can the Giants NOT take him back without ending up with a huge salary cap problem? If they were to say now, “well, even if he clears all the legal hurdles, we don’t want him back” they are open to all sorts of potential lawsuits.

Let it play out. Don’t take any action before June (again salary cap issues)

by NYERinSF on Jan 14, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

Sometimes

you just have to do what you know is right and I think this is one of those times. You can’t let the possible salary cap consequenses be the deciding issue here. It’s Plaxico and his likely potential to cause trouble again. I see no remorse in the guy. He just seems to me to be the kind of guy we need to avoid unless we want to compromise the high standards we all said we support. Otherwise we are no better than the Bengals or the Cowboys.

The lawyers will figure out the details.

by giant fan since 57 on Jan 14, 2009 5:36 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah Plaxico

Is starting to have a T.O.-like effect on the Giants. You can’t let his talent as a receiver get in the way of what’s more important, team cohesiveness and chemistry. There are other receivers out there, Jerry Reese will find the one right for this team. I also believe Hixon will get better, you know he’s mad at himself for dropping key passes against the Eagles— in our past two games against them. Ugh this past game. Why didn’t we run the ball, why didn’t we run any draws, why no slants, why give the ball to Eli for a sneak on 4th and 1 when we have a bulldozer of a runningback…. uuuuuuurggggghhhhhhh. I can’t wait for next season, though.

by mahmoodzaky on Jan 15, 2009 2:47 AM EST reply actions  

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