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NEW YORK GIANTS (12-4)
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES (10-6-1)
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Date: January 11, 2009
Location: East Rutherford, N.J.
Time: 1 p.m. EST
Stadium: Giants Stadium
TV: FOX
Radio: WFAN (660 AM)
Final Score: Eagles 23, Giants 11

Here is your Open Thread for today's New York Giants-Philadelphia Eagles divisional round playoff game.

We know what is at stake, and we know it should be a great game. Let's get a discussion going today that is worthy of the moment.

Enjoy the game. Go Giants!

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LETS GO BIRDS!

E…A…G…L…E…S… … EAGLES!!!

by thwalls on Jan 11, 2009 8:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm so fired up!

I couldn’t sleep this morning because I was so antsy.

GO GMEN!!!!!!!!

by potroast on Jan 11, 2009 8:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think that the bye week will be a big factor today.

When the Eagles beat the Giants last month, the Giants were in the middle of a grueling stretch in which they had played six teams with winning records. Their third week bye came too early in the schedule to do them much good. Contrast that with the Eagles, who played a Thanksgiving night game the week before and had ten days to rest and prepare.

Now it’s the Eagles who are beat up and the Giants who are rested. Anything can happen when these teams meet, but the G-Men get the edge today.

by django48 on Jan 11, 2009 8:31 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Did it make a difference for the Cards and the Ravens?

by thwalls on Jan 11, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cards and Ravens

Turnovers were the difference in both games. How often does Carolina cough the ball up 6 times? And Baltimore was +3, negating the Titans’ clear statistical advantage.

by django48 on Jan 11, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bye week

I think it was incredibly important for the Giants to have that bye. They were very worn down at the end of the regular season, with the grueling schedule and the fact that their bye came after Week 3 of the season. They needed the rest. Hopefully, that will translate into an effective Jacobs, and an active defensive line today.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm gonna be at a supposedly pro-Giants bar

in Crystal City, VA, so I won’t be here during the game. Lets hope to see a lot of this:

GO BIG BLUE

by cjmulrain on Jan 11, 2009 8:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

GIANTS!!!!

I expect it to be close, but…
I REALLY hope its just a complete blowout.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 9:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

G-MEN!!!!!!

Let’s go boys!!!!!!!!!!

by BigBlue4Life on Jan 11, 2009 10:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Do you think that the Peyton and Eli commercials will stop being played when they’re both sitting at home watching the Championships games next week???

by GreenInBaltimore on Jan 11, 2009 10:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

You should know.

McNabb was still pushing Campbell’s Soup on TV after all his failures.

by django48 on Jan 11, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

touche

I am just ENTIRELY over Peyton Manning and 54 sponsored deals, landing him in every commercial break, on every major network. I just tosses Eli in there since i think we’re playing you guys today.

by GreenInBaltimore on Jan 11, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually

agree with you about Peyton. I never understood the national love affair with Peyton while everyone turned Tom Brady into a villain – think about it, Peyton was born to football royalty, handed the QB position at Tennessee, was drafted #1 overall, puts up big stats b/c his coach designed a system where he could throw the ball pretty much at will, was surrounded by all-pro and even hall of fame type receivers, and yet consistently lost the big games. Brady, by comparison, had to fight to the very end for the position at Michigan (competing with a freshman Drew Henson, b/c he was a more highly touted prospect), wasn’t drafted till the 6th round, was a backup who only got in b/c the star QB got hurt, led a team with no all-pro receivers to a Super Bowl in his first year starting, and then led that team, still with no great WRs to two more Super Bowls. It wasn’t till last year that they built the system around his arm. Seems to me like Brady would be the classic underdog, while Peyton is the guy that nobody should like, yet it was always the other way around.

All that said, ever since the Super Bowl last year I’ve become a big Peyton fan, and Brady started to get on my nerves.

by cjmulrain on Jan 11, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think

Brady’s knocked people up.

Brady comes across as a Dbag where normally Peyton does not.

That’s all i got.

by Woogie526 on Jan 11, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Peyton

I think that his appeal is based less on his record than the fact that the guy genuinely comes off likable and funny on camera, with that deadpan sense of humor. I can’t see Brady going on camera with a fake mustache.

by django48 on Jan 11, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, you're right, 48.

Peyton seems to have inborn acting skills.
I think both Warner and Collins have story lines better than those of Manning and Brady. I always root for those two (if they’re not playng the Giants.) I’m indifferent to Manning and Brady (unless they’re playing Big Blue.)

by blue gonz on Jan 11, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ugh

NFL network just showed a montage of AP getting abused

by queler on Jan 11, 2009 12:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That was brutal

I had to close my eyes.

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the link

So far so good, the signal is ok but watchable

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants game me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Inactives

From Mike Garafolo, here are today’s inactives for the Giants.

GIANTS
RB Danny Ware
CB Rashad Barksdale
LB Gerris Wilkinson
OL Adam Koets
DE Dave Tollefson
DT Jeremy Clark
DT Leger Douzable
WR Mario Manningham

This means Lawrence Tynes and John Carney will be active today. MG also notes that Derek Hagan is active instead of Mario Manningham. Probably a move designed to aid the special teams. Hopefully, it pays off.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 12:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

just saw that too

all the DB’s are healthy? that hasn’t happened in a while? off to the bar in Super Bowl winning Sehorn jersey.

by queler on Jan 11, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Let's fu*kin crush them!!!!

Blow the hinges off this BITCH boys. Show the nation why you are the DEFENDING WORLD CHAMPIONS.

by ProudYankee on Jan 11, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

we're always stuck with aikman or the moose

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants game me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

good game??

and Aikman says maybe. I can’t believe this guy

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants game me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

let's go

5 minute drive, ending in a touchdown. Who’s with me?

by long time listener on Jan 11, 2009 1:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Mind if I join you guys?

WHAT A START!!!!

PLAYOFFS?!

by SSreporters on Jan 11, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

almost like the last time

we played them here, TD on a kickoff

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants game me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

agreed

let’s force the iggles come from behind which they are no good at it

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants game me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gilbride better not

be trying to pad his resume with these passes into the wind!

by The Pale Scot on Jan 11, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

good omen

there was an uncalled facemask on the kick return in the Super Bowl. And that drive ended in a FG, too.

by long time listener on Jan 11, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great coverage

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

if you're going to hit a guy out of bounds

at least make sure he doesn’t come back and get a hit on the ballcarrier.

by long time listener on Jan 11, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

absurd penalty

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants game me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That's just ridiculous

20 yard penalty for that?

by potroast on Jan 11, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

eli

You’re making me nervous

by long time listener on Jan 11, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

INT

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i had a bad feeling

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants game me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Eli

I’m not killing him for that. It’s a terrible play call to go that deep with a throw into the wind w/bad field position. The penalties are ticking me off, though. This is not how the Giants got here.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I thought that was a horrible play call.

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Turnovers have been the death knell for every losing team in the playoffs so far.

Get the ball and run it. Eli throwing into the wind on his own 12 isn’t a smart play call. Get back to basics here.

by Major on Jan 11, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Why would we not use our best player?

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Geesh

He rotates with Ward anyway. This was a DW series, that’s all,

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Go Jeff Feagles!

Dude was on the original Tecmo Super Bowl. Therefore, he’s awesome

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 1:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Field position

A three and out would be nice here. A turnover even nicer.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Officilals

As a Cowboy fan I hate the both of you, but it’s apparent that this crew is leaning towards a Eagle. It’s getting as bad as basketball.

I see things you don't see.

by LouieTheLip on Jan 11, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, Cowboys fan.

I appreciate honesty. It’s actually incredibly obnoxious.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm liking the shot of

Jacobs dancing on the sideline. Keep warm, come in, and blast them!!!

by NYinCalifornia on Jan 11, 2009 1:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Came real close to stripping McNabb

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the Eagles can't move the ball

for shit. There only first down I believe was the TD.

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

no they had a 1st down pass on their 1st play

other than & the short TD drive, they’ve moved backwards

by long time listener on Jan 11, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WHAT?!?!?!

You have to be joking.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, more like just a ridiculous AMOUNT of fouls

That one was legit. But where was all of these calls when Dawkins molested Ward under the pile?

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding

The helmet to helmet after he is down BS has to stop.

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

come on with those stupid penalties!!!!

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants game me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

damn officials

have me rooting for the Giants. I need a shower!

I see things you don't see.

by LouieTheLip on Jan 11, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

that's what I am talking about, BJ and more BJ

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants game me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 1:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ride Jacobs

until he just can’t go anymore. He’s got weeks worth of punishment stored up.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Can't enjoy the game

this crew didn’t waste any time screwing this game up. I’m sick already

I see things you don't see.

by LouieTheLip on Jan 11, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

JUST overthrew him

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 1:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Really?

I know he had a step, but a double coverage bomb on 3rd and long.

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think that wasn't the original play call

Smith just had Samuel and Dawkins beat so bad that Eli threw it anyway.

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Again with the deep throws

C’mon … w/this wind gotta throw short stuff.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good punt coverage

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Terrell Thomas

is a beastly special teams player.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think we know for sure

that Gilbride is auditioning for his own head coaching jobA

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants game me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Im fighting off the pessimism, but its not going to well so far

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ours has been worse

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

safety!?

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Safety, Grounding

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

YESSSSSSSSSSS

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yessir!

thank you, thank you.
i called that.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

haha, nice

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants game me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

With that shot of him

looking confused. I’d say you’re right.

by NYinCalifornia on Jan 11, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well played

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

7-5, we just need a two run double to tie it up

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 1:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

agree man, I just can't either

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants game me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no penalties on that one, thats a start

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 1:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Giants D

has at least shown up to play.

by potroast on Jan 11, 2009 1:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

now if we can start running the ball

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants game me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i cant wait till Gilbride is gone so I dont have to see these sweeps anymore

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 2:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the old packer sweep

has been part of the Giants play book for ever

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well when you have the biggest damn RB in the league, it doesnt add up

go straight at em

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At least we've been controlling the ball relatively well

meaning our defense won’t get too tired out, right?

by NYinCalifornia on Jan 11, 2009 2:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

agreed

but I will feel better if we had the lead

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants gave me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I haaaaaate those sweeps.

You have a 265 pound running back, and you’ve going to make him run 10 yards to the sideline first?

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

was shooting ones self in the thigh really that bad of an offense?

god i hope he comes back next year

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Missed Opportunities

The OL has done a tremendous job today giving hi protection.

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Missed it

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I thought Tynes was on for long FG?

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Plenty of distance

Just pulled it

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course.

Things not going well thus far.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Any kick over 40 yards is going to be suspect in this game.

by JasonB on Jan 11, 2009 2:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah

it’s brick and windy in the area today

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Giants are dominating

everywhere but the scoreboard.

by potroast on Jan 11, 2009 2:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately

only the scoreboard counts. I am bugged by the passing game. The wind is killing Eli and they need to go shorter. On the plus side, guys are getting open.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone

needs to get an Eli’s face and tell him to take the short passes.

by potroast on Jan 11, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Geesh

Can’t leave points off the board.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 2:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tuck has the coolest helmet in the NFL.

Sorry, just something I’ve always noticed.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

he wears a Revolution

Eli used to wear it at one point too. Anti-concussion helmet, should be mandatory IMO.

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this does not look good

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants gave me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Arm Punt there

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 2:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i hate that f***ng guy

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants gave me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hedgecock

That was a great block by Madison

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Disagree.

It’s been bad offense, but also good defense.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But not GREAT defense

The weather definitely is having a huge factor though.

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wind and cold is an issue here

the weather is just beastly in the NE right now

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Off tackle run on that play

all outside runs aren’t useless

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

NICE!

Eli had all day to throw that one.

by NYinCalifornia on Jan 11, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

shocking

Successful running plays that open up the play action.

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whoa!

Gilbride has stumbled onto something, I think. Thank goodness he’s our O coordinator.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wildcat

It is like the Wildcat all over again

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you ED

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants gave me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a tough call

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whoa

how can they do that? They can’t just take that run away!

by NYinCalifornia on Jan 11, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

haha, nice.

luckily that helped us, because that was bs.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

McKenzie's hurt

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

WTF is Eli doing?

Bad play calling in the red zone

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

goddammittt

first and five and second and five and two stupid passes….. ruuuun the ball!!!!!

My Dad and his steelers gave me the love for football, but the Giants gave me a Team

by Bajaserge on Jan 11, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Gilbride...

I hope you enjoy being the Raiders head coach.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

somebody fire up firegilbride.com

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kick the field goal

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Damn. This sucks.

They blitzed and just missed him. It is just too much pressure on the DBs.

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 2:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Damn!

Very un-Spags like to let his defense play that soft and give up three. That was bad.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, with the penalty

I was just happy we didn’t give up 7.

by NYinCalifornia on Jan 11, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I really wanted the lead at the half

I hate dominating games everywhere but the scoreboard.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

It’s something the Giants never do. They played soft all the way down the field and gave up an easy three.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about you but I've seen them play 6 DB's and rely on the front four to pressure

against the two minute drill. Osi and Tuck and Strahan getting sacks before the half doesn’t mean the Giants were aggressive in coverage downfield.

by Major on Jan 11, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Most frustrating first half ever?

An inept offense that has been able to move about 5 yards all half has 10 points to show for it? 90% luck as far as I can see.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Eli is struggling

with the wind. He doesn’t throw a tight spiral or have a big, cannon of an arm. Gotta throw more of the short screens and pound the ball. Be nice if we could get a turnover from McNabb, too.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 2:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This game is too much like Ravens-Titans for comfort.

Until that last drive, we’ve outplayed them by a wide margin. I don’t think Spags should have gone to the prevent with so much time left and the wind in our favor. The D has to keep attacking, no matter what. We’ve got to run more. Eli just doesn’t have it today, and as Major points out, BJ is doing okay.

by blue gonz on Jan 11, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wait, should we have the wind in the 2nd and 4th quarters?

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lots of Jacobs

and then more jacobs and then maybe a few more handoffs to jacobs

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

finally

they realize they have the beast in the backfield.

by potroast on Jan 11, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ooh!

Did anyone just hear Asante Samuel is in the locker room?

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Mark your calenders, three months till the draft

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hey, i want them to win

but we’ve all seen this movie before

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know. I am frustrated too

but if you expected anything different than this I think you were kidding yourself.

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true, i'll my bite my tongue from now on

and keep my fingers crossed!

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

I sense a Donovan McNabb-Campbell soup commercial coming.

by NYinCalifornia on Jan 11, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Robbins got hosed in the pro bowl voting

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

are you kidding me

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OMG

That was a great play by McNabb

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh come on!

How could they not sack him!

by NYinCalifornia on Jan 11, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

NOOOO!!!

HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?!?!?!?!?

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait....

to hear the excuses made for Kevin Killdrive now.

by Intellectual Derriere on Jan 11, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tuck's down

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just don't like

the way this game feels, at all.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

me too

either team is one big play away from breaking it open.

by long time listener on Jan 11, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck, not Tuck!

Oh, just so you know, DVR sez that the Eagles o-line put at least ONE giants d-line blitzer in a fucking bear hug at the line of scrimmage on the McNabb ‘miracle’ 3rd and 20.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Probably so

But Kevin Boothe also got away w/a mugging in the first half. We all know there is holding on every single play somewhere. The officials are not beating the Giants, they are beating themselves.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Best thing that could happen....

is for Kevin Killdrive to get violently i’ll and have to leave the game.

God, I hope he is either fired of named Raiders HC.

by Intellectual Derriere on Jan 11, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gilbride

is not having a good day. But he is not the only problem.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's not the problem

The problem is the Giants can’t get any pressure on McNabb w/out completely selling out with the blitz. Any RB is going to run away from a LB if McNabb can sit back in the pocket for half an hour.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but

the blitzes were working!

by potroast on Jan 11, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

how

bad is tuck???

by gdfther412 on Jan 11, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

this is actually ridiculous.

the cheapness needs to stop.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 3:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

reminding me too much of last time

Giants get the Eagles in third down and long but can’t stop them. Settling for FGs is never agood idea….

Fire Girardi! Paul O'Neill for manager!

by tiyuri on Jan 11, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pass rush

I just don’t want to see any more 3 or 4-man pass rush. Forget it. Sell out and try to make something happen.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Time to go all out. They were doing it in the 1st half & it was working.

by potroast on Jan 11, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If we picked good plays

we’d be up by at least 6.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hixon!

One of those were bound to be completed sometime!

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Clock management still scaring me with Eli.

How many times have we called TO because the play didn’t get called in time?

by NYinCalifornia on Jan 11, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

at least once a game

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gilbride cant eat and talk at the same time

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

too many

But Peyton does something similar. They take that time to read as much of the defense as they can and see if they can pick something up. I do agree; it happens to often that the clock gets to :01 and i yell at the screen.

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I just don't watch as many Colts games

but I don’t know that Peyton calls half as many time outs in those situations.

by NYinCalifornia on Jan 11, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Peyton

Honestly, as a Colts fan, it seems like they blow a timeout a half with that.

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jeez...

Is that the 5th or 6th sweep in a row?

by The Pale Scot on Jan 11, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

WHAT

Oh my goodness.

by NYinCalifornia on Jan 11, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

why bother activating Tynes?

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gotta go to Tynes

Why is he active if you won’t use him on the long ones? That’s 6 points.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 3:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

why isn't tynes kicking that?

what was the point of activating him. the coaching in this game on the giants side has been HORRIBLE>

by potroast on Jan 11, 2009 3:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but what are the odds of that happening

the offense has been shit since plax shot himself

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon defense.

Show them what you’re made of. Don’t let the announcers be right and give Westbrook ANYTHING.

by NYinCalifornia on Jan 11, 2009 3:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Forget the missed field goal

I would have punted there…go for a safety or something. Hahaha.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wow

when does spring training start…..this is such b.s.

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

come on, make a play D

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what has happened to Pierce this year?

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

fuck

what the fucking fuck

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wait, how do we not have the wind in the 4th?

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hate everything right now

We can’t let them get a touchdown here.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 3:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The D looks gassed

and this is ALL gilbride’s fault. he doesn’t want ot stick w/jacobs & this is what we are getting.

by potroast on Jan 11, 2009 3:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and plax, dont forget him

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Shitty play calling, stalling offenses, shaky Eli

and a whole lot of gift-wrapping for the Eagles from the Refs.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 3:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

See that, Gilbride?

Thats what happens when you commit to the run.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

anyone else concerned that eli seem unable to play here in the winter?

i hope this new stadium is such a wind tunnel

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

*isnt

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Won't win that challenge

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i disagree

the ball well over the 40 when he’s down

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Short

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well that was a nice season while it lasted

Go get us a WR Reese

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i dont know why they hired him in the first place

he was horrible in SD and Buffalo in all roles

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gilbride

You guys might as well forget the ‘fire Gilbride’ stuff. It’s a waste of energy. Criticize him for today, but he is not getting fired. It isn’t gonna happen. Oh, and the Giants did win a Super Bowl w/him calling the plays.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Its the players that made him look good

we’ve seen how poor they are w/o Burress and Manning got on an incredible streak last january, and had he had to play three games in NJ, I dont know that we wouldve even made it to the superbowl

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not over yet.

I would use the 2 minute offense right here

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Still time

But, gotta have 7.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 3:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ward's going into beast mode

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by MrNFL on Jan 11, 2009 3:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ballgame

2 straight fourth downs

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Im surprised there was no sweep on that play

we gotta get a WR this offseason, BAD

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Turnover, missed field goals

The INT and two missed FGs are a 13-point swing, and that’s your ballgame right there.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I know the run is working

but when you do it every play, it doesn’t.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry Ed

but every time the Giants are in short yardage they do exactly the opposite of what i think they should do. i know i’m not an OC, but gilbride sucks. these are exactly the type of situations that i’ve ALWAYS complained about his play calling.

by potroast on Jan 11, 2009 3:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If it doesn't work it sucks

if it works it’s great. On that last 4th down play Jacobs had a hole to his left and missed it. I know Gilbride is going to get killed today.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Squid

Provided, of course, that you give him the credit he deserved for the Super Bowl run, and for the fact that the Giants won the NFC East this season.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hes awful, trust me, I know many Bills fans who can attest to that

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

It seems like first down, we try a screen pass. Then second down, a deep throw. Then third down, an effing sweep.

by squid92 on Jan 11, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Play calls

You know what, the ‘best’ offensive line in football got beat on the two biggest short-yardage plays of the season. Forget the play calls. If they are that good they make it work.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That 3rd and 20 conversion they got

was just as big as the INT, I think.

Save the neck for me, Clark.

by Mr. Met on Jan 11, 2009 4:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

True

McNabb made an unbelievable play on that one. It always seems like Philly QBs do that to us. Sorry, bad dreams of Cunningham still haunt me.

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It hurts

but we did win the Super Bowl last year so we can’t be too broken up. Congrats to the Eagles.

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

of course we can

they blew a 12-4 season and a chance at history

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Correction

Plaxico blew an 11-1 season.

This was the time to build a dynasty, not lose in our first round to a team that had to have God intervene in two games on the last day of the season to gimp their way into the playoffs.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course we could have

but I think his bullshit midseason drama was tiki-esque in throwing the team off the tracks. They haven’t been the same team since that crap happened.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on Plax

though i still dont think what he did merits getting thrown off the team, but from the minute he signed here, we were a more explosive team….now we’re essentially back to the Toomer/Hilliard days…..no explosion or deep threats whatsoever

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Give the Eagles credit

I know we hate to, but ‘c/mon. They have played a terrific game. They made the plays, we didn’t. Let’s not go jumping off the bridge. You simply don’t win the Super Bowl every year.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Philly deserves the credit

Their defense played great. No one on the Giants made a play. 2 missed FGs, a horrible INT, bad officiating, Two 4th downs they were stopped, a great Philly Defense and just enough offensive plays by Philly result in a win.

As I said on their blog. Can’t root for them, but I do wish them luck. They played a great game.

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're too nice

I wish no one on any team I’m not rooting for luck.

I’m bitter as fuck, and I hope Tonya Harding’s husband is a Cardinals fan, and that he has a personal vendetta against Donovan McNabb.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bitter?

C’mon. We won a Super Bowl last year and had a terrific regular season. It’s a disappointing finish, obviously, and not what we hoped for. But, I can’t be bitter. We got beat, it happens.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course I can be bitter

you watch an entire season where we played like the best team all year, probably on the verge of building a mini-dynasty, and we just fall to shit at the end of the year, culminating in a loss to a team that has to thank God every day to even be in the playoffs.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Plax

This team was never the same without Cheddar Plax. Eli missed him a lot and the Giants need to look to replace him this offseeason.

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 4:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Give Kiwanuka and a first rounder for Calvin Johnson

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

do the Lions do that

They already have a bunch of picks because of the Roy Williams trade. Maybe they keep and build around CJ.

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well you cant really start a team with a WR

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

why not?

we dont need him once Osi comes back

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bad Eli showed up today.

I don’t blame Plaxico for this. How many receivers did he miss in the 1st hald?

Save the neck for me, Clark.

by Mr. Met on Jan 11, 2009 4:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Eli

I think there were too many deep throws. Not all his fault, but he didn’t play well.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Giants are not desparate. Just "concerned".

Grim lol.

Save the neck for me, Clark.

by Mr. Met on Jan 11, 2009 4:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

BAD ELI

Save the neck for me, Clark.

by Mr. Met on Jan 11, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

me too

I like 5 for number of reasons.

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think him having twins just at the right moment

in his life settled him down, and he is playing well. I also like him if for no other reason than Rush Limbaugh doesn’t. Still, I don’t care for his antics whatsoever.

Save the neck for me, Clark.

by Mr. Met on Jan 11, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

to victors go the spoils

Today he’s the Victor. Having lived in Philly McNabb is a class act and one of the reasons people like taking shots at him.

by DoctorK16 on Jan 11, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not following -

you’re saying people in Philly like to take shots at McNabb BECAUSE he’s a class act? That makes no sense, other than Philadelphians being a-holes.

Save the neck for me, Clark.

by Mr. Met on Jan 11, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and that's

exactly why it makes sense

by cjmulrain on Jan 11, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

McNabb is such a douche.

Save the neck for me, Clark.

by Mr. Met on Jan 11, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tough season guys, this was such a waste

Honestly, I would fire Kevin Gilbride. Too much passing in this game cost them. The defense did what they could and the offense sucked.

PLAYOFFS?!

by SSreporters on Jan 11, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't consider it a waste.

I’ve had a great ride with the G-men for the past year. It had to end sometime, I guess, I just wish it wasn’t today. Had we won today and then gagged against the Cardinals next week I’d probably feel even worse.

Save the neck for me, Clark.

by Mr. Met on Jan 11, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And while I'm in bitter rant mode

I’d also like to say “fuck the NFL” for its awful playoff format and seeding system…the system that has thus far given home field advantage to the wrong teams consistently, has allowed teams in the playoffs that have no business there, and forced #1 seeds to play teams they have absolutely not business having to face.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There's nothing to agree with

this is straight logic.

We played Philly because of a zip code instead of a record. San Diego made the playoffs because of a zip code instead of a record. Indy had to play a team on the road that they were 4 games better than because of a Zip Code. Atlanta had to go on the road against a team two games worse because of a zip code. The #1 seed in both conferences played harder opponents with better records because of zip codes.

I come from this little place called logic…and while living here, I’ve determined that a team with a better fucking record deserves more than a team with a worse fucking record…not for that team to be cheated because their taxpaying fan base happens to reside in a location further located east or west or north or south. It’s called bullshit. I tried explaining why the NFL does the playoff system that they do to my non-football watching girlfriend, and she couldn’t understand for the life of her why the system would be so dumb…and I told her I don’t know either.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, the top seeds should go regardless of division

But hey, we did better than Dallas, which is always nice

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kiss

Man, it is what it is. No system is ever perfect. So be it. We played lousy today. The Eagles played well. We lost. So be it.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's that attitude I dislike so much

when the fix is so simple, so logical, and so quick, why isn’t it done? When people just sit back and say “that’s jut the way it is, man,” that’s the whole reason it STAYS the way it is, rather than changing. This system isn’t perfect, and neither is any real alternative, but it SURE THE HELL would make a huge improvement over what we have right now.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

smh

dude are you serious? you lost. don’t be a crybaby about it.
teams that shouldn’t be in? psssssh

go get burped, have your diaper changed, and then come back and re-evaluate this post.

4th and 26!!!!

by kingofnorth on Jan 11, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's called logic and reason

apply it to your life some time…the difference it’ll make is staggering.

Congrats on your eventual loss to one of 3 AFC teams, all superior to your’s.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 11, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Easy, King

Stay classy in victory, please!

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here we go Cardinals here we go.

f*ck

Save the neck for me, Clark.

by Mr. Met on Jan 11, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Damn...

Dude is sleepin?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 11, 2009 4:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

we should deliberately avoid home field advantage next year

Eli cant handle the wind, that much is clear

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would say "hasn't learned yet how to master it"

as opposed to “can’t.” Maybe we can bring in Phil Simms to tutor him or something.

Save the neck for me, Clark.

by Mr. Met on Jan 11, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this about says it

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 11, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

or hope its not as bad at the new digs

anyone have any idea if it is, I know its in the same park

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Eli

I think part of it is he just doesn’t have that cannon arm that can cut through it. His arm is good, but it’s not John elway rocket.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's not the arm strength

it’s the spiral in bad conditions

by queler on Jan 11, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Either way

Shorter routes would have been more productive. The long throws just weren’t going to happen. He made one good one, that’s it.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Eli's next spiral will be his first

and this game was lost the instant Plax shot himself in the leg. He was eli’s security blanket, without Plax, manning is nothing special.

by CowboysSuck on Jan 11, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think its the strength...

As he showed in several plays, Eli can bomb the ball. The problem was his accuracy with what should have easily been four interceptions by the eagle. The only reason there were only two INTs is because the eagles defense had hands of stones when it came to unexpected balls.

by Biggs77 on Jan 11, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Lions?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 11, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol! A little late there.

Weirdest postseason ever.

I vote Cardinals. They haven’t ever won a superbowl.

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Jan 11, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I figured a little humor was in order ;-)

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 11, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

gotta be Arizona

Warner was good for the Giants, he never complained when they replaced him

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by bren on Jan 11, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I told you guys were too confident

This game really was a toss-up

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Jan 11, 2009 4:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Joe_D

Congrats on the win. Now, please, go celebrate and let us be miserable on our own.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was never confident

for the record…ha

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jan 11, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This has been the weirdest postseason ever.

If the Steeler’s lose today, all four teams with a first round bye would have lost. I think now you have to go for the Cards, a team that’s never even sniffed the Super Bowl.

Although the Giants won today, I still give them props for a great season as a marked team. It’s tough these days to repeat and the Giants handled the pressure admirably for most of the year. The Giants, while I don’t like ‘em, are a class organization. Can’t say the same about the Eagles.

Go Cardinals!!!!

by Brandon Worley on Jan 11, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Funny that any fan thinks they can speculate about what is and isn’t a “class organization”, especially one whose team is the definition of a classless, back-stabbing, finger-pointing bunch of cowards.

Enjoy your offseason in classy Dallas.

by pdxGreen on Jan 11, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Green

Go have that argument at Blogging the Boys. Brandon showed some class stopping by. Leave it be, and stay classy in victory.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

But I take exception to what is clearly a cheapshot at the Eagles organization on a day in which they performed admirably. I content that Brandon could have made his point about respecting the Giants, and left it at that.

by pdxGreen on Jan 11, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The taste of sour grapes is sweet. They’re still stinging from week 17.

by JasonB on Jan 11, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think anyone can deny that the Cowboys are completely unqualified to decide who is class and who isn’t

by JasonB on Jan 11, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LMFAO

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Jan 11, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it was a good game.

i hate hate eli’s face. he always has this look on like it’s not his fault, it’s everybody else’s.

anywho, GO EAGLES

4th and 26!!!!

by kingofnorth on Jan 11, 2009 4:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Gilbride Strikes again

I hope Gilbride leaves to the raiders because I am so sick of his play calling.

by John W on Jan 11, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gilbride

I know today wasn’t his finest hour. But, I will say over and over and over this game is not entirely on him. The opportunities were there, and the plays did not get made.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bummer

Off to the gym to burn out my frustration.
Weird playoffs.
Cards could beat Eagles
If Cards win SB, Warner will go to HOF.
Based on our last few games, maybe we should have seen this coming.
Wait’ll next year!

by blue gonz on Jan 11, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yep .. weird

All the favorites are going down. Just shows you that it’s an unpredictable game. Still, we had a shot and we have a team that will have a shot for years to come.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Still, at least we can enjoy this...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jan 11, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

Lou, thanks for the laugh

by cjmulrain on Jan 11, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just for the record.

Eagles penalized 8 times for 61 yards. Giants 6 times for 49.

by Freak on Jan 11, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i just put up a fan post about it

but, Philly fans your going to feel the same way if the Phillies don’t win the series next year, you’ll still be too high from last year to care, that’s how I still feel

by queler on Jan 11, 2009 4:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i always hate the

“well we just won last year” argument, but i agree with you that 2007 is the exception to that rule. that was such a great run. sure this loss stings, but there will be other seasons. what really sucks for me being an IU (Indiana University) and Knicks basketball fan, i’m basically in hibernation until pitchers and catchers report.

LET’S GO YANKEES!

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Jan 11, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

April can't come soon enough.

Thanks for another great year, Ed. See you over at Bugs & Cranks.

by django48 on Jan 11, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cool

I’ll be here throughout the off-season, too. This is still my favorite place.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course I'll be checking in here from time to time.

We’ll have a lot to discuss this off-season, the WR situation, Jacobs’ and Ward’s impending free agency, Spags, possible FA pickups, the draft. Fortunately, we have a team that’s pretty solid in most areas, and we’re talking about a few tweaks here and there rather than a complete overhaul.

You said it yourself a while back. This season must be considered a success even without a second straight title.

Still, I would have liked to continue my daily BBV ritual another three weeks

by django48 on Jan 12, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

weirdest statistic ever?

i can’t believe that.

what offsets Westbrook’s lack of production was the fact that they were 5,567 of 5.568 (99.9%) on third-down conversions.

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Jan 11, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In Reese we trust.

When is draft day?

Save the neck for me, Clark.

by Mr. Met on Jan 11, 2009 5:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

April 25-26, 2009

Can’t come too soon.

by Biggs77 on Jan 11, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Carney

Was the second kick blocked, or did Carney’s age finally catch up with him? It looked blocked but I’m not sure. Still, 2 of his three missed kicks were in the same playoff game? Embarrassing…

by Biggs77 on Jan 11, 2009 6:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not blocked

He just didn’t have the leg to make that kick into the wind. Tynes should have been out there. His lack of leg strength finally hurt the Giants.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Meh...

Carney was having a great season… he just blew it. They made the only logical choice kicking wise. Could Tynes have made the difference though?

by Biggs77 on Jan 11, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You know what sucks

I’m not even looking forward to baseball season. After the way the last two years have ended, I wish the next NFL season would just start right back up. And baseball’s always been my favorite sport.

by cjmulrain on Jan 11, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

btw, it's times like these

I wish New York basketball didn’t die this decade…The Knicks suck, St. John’s sucks, and even NY High School basketball is way down. There’s only 1 NY team in the Top 100 nationally…usually there’s like 5 or 6 at least.

by cjmulrain on Jan 11, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not if the Cavs

win the title this year.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if I agree with that

part of me feels like if he wins in Cleveland, he’ll say “ok, now it’s time to prove how great I am, by leaving the champs and going to a terrible franchise and single-handedly turning them around.” Of course, that could just be wishful thinking on my part.

And besides, if not Lebron, Dwyane Wade is a nice consolation prize

by cjmulrain on Jan 11, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Baseball/football

It’s funny, earlier this year Ed wondered whether if our two cities had the chance to swap your NFL title for our MLB title… we just might have done it.

by JasonB on Jan 11, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

NFL History!

At lease we made NFL history. First game with a score of 23-11. Oh joy

by Biggs77 on Jan 11, 2009 6:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Osi

Osi’s injury finally came back to haunt us. You just can’t lose two big gun’s like Strahan and Osi and still expect the same results. The decrease in sacks was evident and it also screwed up our rotation.

Ernie Acorsi was right you can’t have too many pass rushers.

I don’t care what anyone says I think Kevin Gilbride’s playcalling in the first half killed us in the end. They ran the ball well until they got in the red zone and then they just abondoned the run. And throwing the ball with our backs to the endzone into the wind was stupid.

by John W on Jan 11, 2009 6:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

two key moments

3rd and 20 on the PHI 20 – Giants just got 3 off of Big Fred’s INT, had McNabb sacked but let him loose and the Eagles end up with 3 on the drive.

1st and 5 on the PHI 23 – Giants draw Eagles off-sides then call three consecutive passing plays resulting in a net total of zero yards and have to settle for 3.

that 3rd and 20 conversion was a huge momentum swing.

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Jan 11, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, there was a 3rd and 10 on that same drive. That’s the drive where the Eagles regained the lead for good. They converted a 3rd and 20 & a 3rd and 10.

by JasonB on Jan 12, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The throw by Eli

that turned into a pick and led to the Eagles first score was maybe the stupidest play call of the season. That was Jacobs time right there.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Congratulations Giants Fans!

I’m a Cowboys fan just so we have full disclosure. You guys had a great team and a great year…I wish my team would have played as well as yours did this season. I know what it feels like to have your season end before it should, it’s just frustrating. The Giants will be back in form next year, and I hope the Cowboys can give them a run for their money.

"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams

by Jim Vance on Jan 11, 2009 6:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thank you

Yes, this season feels like it ended before it was supposed to. We were in position to accomplish so much more, and it just didn’t happen.

by Ed Valentine on Jan 11, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tough end for season

Being an Eagles fan I can say the Eagles have exceeded my expectations this season and I sure most Giants fans are disappointed by not going further in the playoffs. But I got to say the Giants were the best team in the NFC for most of the season. And I truly enjoy reading the insightful posts on this board the past week. Better luck next season.

by calunker on Jan 11, 2009 8:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Things I learned

1. Gilbride still has some work to do on play calling. Some of the choices today did not give Eli, the WRs and The RBs the best chance to make a play.

2. A talented WR does not equate a #1 WR. Although I was ready to chuck Burress under the bus, I think I underestimated his impact on this offense. At times a lackadaisical route runner, sometimes dropped easy passes, but the mentality of a #1 WR and the ability to make that big play is what separates a talented WR from a number 1 WR. I would have like to have seen some plays to Moss today, but that is just because he did not get anything and he is perfect for some short, quick slant routes.

3. This defense is still great. The DBs are awesome, The interior and exterior linemen and good if not great even with only recording one sack (?) today.. If we can continue to draft great pass rushers and get some depth at LB, it will continue to stay great.

4. The redzone and 4th and inches need some work. They had been great on 3rd down this year or at least it feels that way with Smith emerging and I can not remember having a 4th and inches problem, but settling for FGs and getting blasted twice on 4th and inches can’t be allowed. Something needs to be done to be more effective in these situations.

5. I do not think any thing drastic needs to be done with this team. I would not be surprised to see Gilbride gone and they do need a #1 WR if Burress is done. i do not think a Kiwanuka for Calvin Johnson is a god trade for either team. He can solve some of the Giants LB depth next yr with Osi back. He is very versatile and guys like that are extremely valuable.

Thanks for all the fun conversations this year. I wish it had ended on a better note, but we got beat by a better team today. Trust me, I hate saying that since the Cowboys are the only team I despise more than the Eagles.

Ed and Jrs, great blog. I will be back on draft week and to see what everyone else thought the problem was today.

Thanks.

by losangelesmets on Jan 11, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

#4

It’s usually the case that two opposing fans will see the same play differently. One guy thinks his team didn’t make a play, while the other sees it that his team did make a play.

So with that in mind I’d invite you to consider that your 4th & 1 problem was that you were facing the #3 run defense in football. This was a great rushing team against a great run stopping team. Something had to give.

I think if there’s one matchup to look at on those two plays it was Bunkley vs O’Hara. Bunkley won that battle both times.

by JasonB on Jan 12, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll agree

that Bunkley beat O’Hara. But we averaged 4.3 yards per carry, so it’s not like your vaunted run defense shut us down. Those were, IMO, bad play calls (at least the Eli sneak was…the Jacobs one was just a bad read on Jacobs’ part, if he’d cut left he gains 5 yards). Our run game was doing just fine against you guys – the problem was our coaches didn’t stick with it. I’m sure that’s a problem you’re sympathetic to.

by cjmulrain on Jan 12, 2009 8:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

#3 rushing DEF

Jason, you guys have a great Def. I have no problem admitting that. They forced our offense into mistakes by making plays. However, given our success in this game rushing and the fact that we have one of the best Offensive lines in football (Eli had as much time as he wanted in the pocket today even on all out blitzes), I believe we should always make 4th and 6 inches.

The 4th and 2 play. Know I said get it t Jacobs all game long, and as cj said, the lane was seemingly there, he just went the wrong way. I don’t know if he would have made it; it seemed clear and I am certain less pissed at missing the 4th and 2 than the 4th and 6 inches.

All in all, the Giants settles all season long for too many FGs. I think the evidence is clear given Carney’s successful year though rarely ever used for a kick over 45 yds. It was not just a statement for this game, but in general.

by losangelesmets on Jan 12, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we won

In an ironic twist the NFL merged with the PGA to form PFGL – Pro Footgolf League. Rules are you play a game of football and the team w/ the lowest score wins…so Giants win!!!!

by giantbeliever on Jan 11, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs