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New York Giants finally finding respect

R-E-S-P-E-C-T!

It has been a loooong time coming, New York Giants' fans. That rumble you hear growing louder in the distance, though, is the sound of R-E-S-P-E-C-T building for your defending Super Bowl champions.

The Giants spent the off-season listening to the experts say they were champs, but they still weren't the best team last season. And they spent the pre-season listening to a host of predictions that they wouldn't make the playoffs, and might not even finish .500.

Eli Manning wasn't really that good. Michael Strahan was gone. Osi Umenyiora was hurt. Jeremy Shockey was in New Orleans. How could they possibly be any good?

Well, two impressive season-opening victories and the tide of opinion seems to changing.

 

 

Star-divide

The latest example, as pointed out Thursday in the comments by 'Bajaserge,' is this ESPN article ranking the top 5 young quarterbacks in the NFL.

In a ranking of the top 5 young quarterbacks in the NFL, Scouts Inc. came up with this:

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That is Ben Roethlisberger of Pittsburgh first. And, yes, Eli is ranked second -- well ahead of Tony Romo in the rating scale used by Scouts Inc.

No way that happened a year ago -- or even two games ago.

When asked the question 'Which of these QBs would you want running your team right now?' three of the seven experts selected Manning. Here is what they said:

Gary Horton: I want Manning because he is the unquestioned leader of a good team in a pressure-cooker market. He has a calm demeanor that permeates to his teammates and he can follow a bad play with several good ones. His footwork is excellent and he can make every play necessary. Plus he has developed into a good decision-maker who, like his brother Peyton, can make good pre-snap adjustments. There doesn't seem to be a situation that is ever too big for him.

Keith Kidd: Without a doubt, it's Brady. But I can't have him, so I'll go with Manning over Cutler. Manning was simply amazing in the postseason, outplaying Jeff Garcia, Romo, Brett Favre and finally, in the Super Bowl, Brady. Manning is playing with a tremendous amount of confidence, and he's in the toughest market of any player on this list. I'm impressed by his arm strength and maneuverability in the pocket, but what I love most is his laid-back demeanor. He doesn't allow a bad play to affect his overall performance. When he's in rhythm with the offense, Manning is a big-time quarterback who puts a lot of pressure on opposing defenses.

Tag Ribary: Manning is the guy I want from this list because he has made unbelievable progress. He can manipulate safeties and linebackers with his eyes. He is accurate and releases the ball with confidence. Plus, Manning has a strong arm with an efficient throwing motion. My quarterback needs to be smart, able to read coverage quickly and have some mobility in the pocket to avoid the rush. Manning can do all of these things effectively, and he now has a proven track record of playing well in the biggest of games -- which most of the players on this list have yet to prove. He may not be the best in each of these individual categories, but right now he is good enough in all of them.

So, it appears that Eli is finally being looked at as something more than Peyton's little brother. And the Giants are finally being looked at as something other than a nice team that got lucky.

Here are a couple of other examples of the respect the Giants are suddenly getting.

  • Football Outsiders, a terrific site I don't pay enough attention to, has the Giants ranked No. 1 in its weekly DVOA ratings. DVOA stands for Defense-adjusted Value Over Average, a complicated formula Football Outsiders uses to measure various parts of a football team.
  • Both of the bloggers I have interviewed recently, 'Van Ram' from Turf Show Times and Josh Kirkendall from Cincy Jungle have mentioned wishing Tom Coughlin coached their teams.
  • The Giants are No. 3 in the ESPN power rankings. A meaningless achievement, but a nice number.
  • CBS Sportsline has the Giants at No. 2. With this tantalizing comment:

They can throw it and run it and they can pressure the quarterback. Repeating is definitely possible.

Wow! That's respect.

Of course, all of this won't mean a thing if the Giants lay an egg Sunday against 0-2 Cincinnati.

It sure is nice to see, though. And long overdue.

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This is a bad omen

Soon as people jump on the GMen bandwagon, bad things start happening. Hey all you experts, jump back off!!

Anyway, I said this in an earlier post about which young QB you would want … interesting that Eli’s demeanor and personality is now listed as a reason he’s a top QB when that used to be the reason “experts” disliked him.

BTW, Football Outsiders is great.

by potroast on Sep 19, 2008 8:00 AM EDT   0 recs

Right on all points!

The Eli/demeanor thing just blows my mind. First he’s “lame” now he’s “cool headed”.

We're only gonna score 17 points?

by big blue wrecking crew on Sep 19, 2008 8:52 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Football Outsiders

is a little too technical and ‘stat geeky’ for me. But, it does bring out some great information. It is sort the the ‘Sabermetric’ approach to football.

by ETVal on Sep 19, 2008 9:00 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

don't forget that FoxSports

listed the Giants at 1st overall in their power rankings. Hopefully they’re sports news is more truthful/reliable than their political news.

by NYcON on Sep 19, 2008 10:17 AM EDT   0 recs

Missed that

I read a zillion sites, but don’t look at FOX very often.

by ETVal on Sep 19, 2008 10:28 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

can't say I blame you

they aren’t one of my bookmarks either.

by NYcON on Sep 19, 2008 11:47 AM EDT   0 recs

I hate respect

I really hate everyone all the sudden giving the giants Kudos and #1 ratings and “how can I not pick the defending champs as the best team”. I like playing with a chip. The Giants have always played better with a chip.

I think it was 2001 after the game off the super bowl loss to the Ravens and everyone thought the offense was going to tear the league up. Unstoppable. All year the offense struggled.

I agree with potroast. This is a bad omen.

Oh, and the Eli love now. That is just good media spin. Everything changes when you win.

by losangelesmets on Sep 19, 2008 12:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Respect

That is why I think Sunday is a dangerous game. The Giants should win in a walk. But, they are hearing praise this week. Plus, the Bengals do have some talented playmakers.

by ETVal on Sep 19, 2008 1:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

remember last week

when I predicted a blowout (and ended up being correct, if I may toot my own horn for a second)? Well, this week I do NOT expect a blowout. I think the Bengals are better than they’ve played and the Giants are gonna have their hands full with them. I think they’ll win, but it’ll be closer than a lot of people are expecting.

The thing last week was less about the Giants than the Rams: they are a truly awful team. They have the potential to make last years Dolphins look like the ’72 ’Fins.

by cjmulrain on Sep 19, 2008 1:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree with pot

I don’t want any respect, no kudos, and rank the Giants 32 every week. That’s just the way I like it.

That being said:

Giants 257 Bengals 3

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by jrs1940 on Sep 19, 2008 2:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Geesh!

Why give ’em 3?

by ETVal on Sep 19, 2008 3:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That is just awesome!

Eli’s Line 52-60 900 yds 20 tds
Jacobs 18 rushes 285 yds 8 tds
Bradshaw 10 rushes-300 yds 8 tds

that is a box score I would like to see

by losangelesmets on Sep 19, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well

I figure the Bengals will score 3 off the 2nd team defense

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by jrs1940 on Sep 19, 2008 3:48 PM EDT   0 recs

let's not go crazy

the Redskins are solid but they are clearly the 4th best team in the NFC East. as for St. Louis, they could honestly go 0-16.

let’s remember that this is a team that started 6-2 both of the last two seasons and both times hit a mid-season rough patch. starting 2-0 is great, but it doesn’t guarantee a playoff berth, much less another Super Bowl championship.

i hate to sound pessimistic, but call me after Week 8, and i’ll let you know if Eli and the Giants are “great.” i’ve been watching this team for way to long to ever buy into the hype.

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Sep 19, 2008 3:50 PM EDT   0 recs

I know

But I have to give ‘jrs’ a hard time.

by ETVal on Sep 19, 2008 4:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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