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A look at the Giants' safeties

Let's look at the safety position today as we continue our look at some of the most interesting position battles we are likely to see this summer when training camp opens for the Giants in Albany later this month.

I am going to do this a little differently today. I will go player-by-player, then make some predictions.

  • James Butler -- Butler is entering his fourth season, and last year was his first as the starting strong safety. He had 69 tackles and just one interception last year. The Giants might move him to free safety this season. He's decent, but nothing special. Really, he seems like an adequate guy just holding a place until someone better comes along. That might happen this season.
  • Sammy Knight -- The 12-year veteran was signed as a free agent to replace Gibril Wilson, who bolted for big money in Oakland. Knight is a strong safety, which means Butler may have to move to the other side. Knight started 15 games last season and had 79 tackles and four interceptions. He can still play, but he can't provide the dynamic play-making or off-the-edge blitzing that Wilson could.
  • Kenny Phillips -- The Giants' No. 1 draft pick was the perfect choice, the guy the Giants seemingly wanted all along with the 31st pick in the draft. He figures to push either Butler or Knight aside for a starting spot before the season is over. NFL Draft Countdown said this about Phillips prior to the draft, "The next in a long line of top Hurricane safeties, following in the footsteps of guys like Bennie Blades, Ed Reed, Sean Taylor and Brandon Meriweather ... could rank amongst the Top 10 safeties in the NFL relatively early on in his career."
  • Michael Johnson -- In a look at the safety position, here is what Giants.com had to say about Johnson. "Will give Butler a run for his money at free safety. Going into his second year Johnson showed flashes last year of being an impact player on defense. Drafted in the seventh round out of Arizona, Johnson showed a lot of raw athletic ability, starting five games. His speed and ability to attack the ball was on display, but he’s still a little raw." Giants fans can only hope that the flashes Johnson showed last season turn into consistent excellence. A Phillips-Johnson combo would give the Giants a pair of exciting, young, athletic, play-making safeties at the back of their defense. That would be the ideal scenario.

Others in the mix

Undrafted free agents Nehemiah Warrick and Terrance Stringer are the only other safeties on the roster. Warrick, cousin of Peter Warrick, played for Michigan State and has the reputation of being an aggressive player with a chance to help a team, at least as a kick coverage guy. He seems like a guy who might be worth keeping an eye on.

Final thoughts

Butler and Knight could do an adequate job for defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo. If either Phillips or Johnson -- and preferably both -- are able to step up and take starting roles the Giants have a chance to have an exceptional secondary.

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Exactly how I see it

The best case scenario is definitely the young guys taking over. Butler is barely adequate. He might have good football knowledge, but he just isn’t a playmaker. I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Johnson so far and hope he can take the next steps. I can’t wait to see Phillips in live game action.

by potroast on Jul 15, 2008 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

michael johnson

He kinda reminds me of Frank Walker, he was a guilty pleasure for me :)

by queler on Jul 15, 2008 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh!!

Frank Walker? King of the big play and even bigger mistake? Thank God he’s gone.

by Ed Valentine on Jul 15, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Frank Walker is one of those guys who became a superstar in my Madden ‘04 franchise that consumed my life (along with my 3 college roomates) my Sophomore year, so I always expected him to become a superstar in real life, alas, it never happened.

Also in this category: Visanthe Shiancoe and Jesse Palmer (Manning got injured for the season in the very first game, and I somehow managed to get to the Super Bowl with Palmer as the QB winning league MVP…very realistic, no?)

by cjmulrain on Jul 15, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i second that

Shiancoe was an absolute beast in Madden. i used to throw to him more than Shockey even. maybe that’s how the Vikings front office scouted him. that’s the only explanation for his 5 year, $18 million contract.

as a side note, Eli got a hip flexor or some lame injury in my last Madden season, and I had to replace him for one game. I threw four TD passes and rushed for a score with Jared Lorenzen against the Jets. so to answer your question, yes, Madden is super realisitc because the Jets really are that bad.

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Jul 16, 2008 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

cmon

he was practically a walk-on, he’s was just a little raw.

by queler on Jul 16, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Kenny Phillips

is anything like the people he’s being compared to, I’ll be on cloud nine. I’ve been secretly jealous of our division rivals having all the fun at safety… well, except the Cowboys. Roy Williams is a pleasure to watch flail about in the secondary. Anyway, with a nickel package involving Sammy Knight and Sam Madison, I’m a little concerned about the speed of our secondary.

by rzor on Jul 15, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I hear you

about Madison and Knight. It is possible, though, that their roles will diminish as the season progresses. We’ll see how it plays out.

by Ed Valentine on Jul 15, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like watching

Williams too. Just not so much in run support but , he can cover my tight ends and wide outs any day.

We're only gonna score 17 points?

by big blue wrecking crew on Jul 15, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phillips

Can’t wait to see Phillips in action. I saw some footage of him as a Hurricane and he looks pretty fierce…a real hard hitter. I know that scouting film footage always shows the players best plays I still think he’s causing more of a buzz in NY than his first round predecassor, Ross did in ‘07. Guess we’ll see

by giantbeliever on Jul 15, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

My guess

would be four. That is what they carried last season. If McQuarters makes the team i could see him also spending some time learning the safety position in the event of injuries.

by Ed Valentine on Jul 16, 2008 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Youth

Would not be surprised to see the season start with Knight SS and Butler FS.
Phillips will push out Butler by mid-season and Johnson may be at SS shoprtly afterward.

A better long term solution – Phillips and Johnson.

by MSP Giant on Jul 19, 2008 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

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