Shockey's bitterness is obvious

by ETVal on Jun 8, 2008 10:00 AM EDT in News

If it wasn't obvious before it's obvious now that Jeremy Shockey's relationship with the Giants is badly damaged.

Mike Garafolo of the Star-Ledger caught up with Shockey Saturday when Shockey was in New York doing a promotion for POWERade. This is what Shockey had to say.

The statement I would like to make about the Giants and speculation in the offseason is that whatever happens between the upper management, the lower management, the owners, any management, is going to keep between ourselves. Unlike the Giants, I'm going to be quiet. They've released multiple things about myself. If you look back into the media, theres always a source; well, I'd like to know who the source is, we'll go over here and deal it out ourself. Because I haven't said one negative thing towards the Giants in the newspapers, I have never expressed feelings about the things you guys made up,

That's pretty biting, bitter stuff from Shockey.

I don't know what to make of Shockey's accusatory tone. I do know that the Giants are DEFENDING SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS and they have no need to walk on egg shells around Shockey.

If he's going to be a Giant, the best thing Shockey can do is shut his mouth and play like the All-Pro tight end he has been in the past.

Of course, Shockey being Shockey I'm sure that isn't how this will go down.

[UPDATE: I wish I had read this earlier, but Ralph Vacchiano has a great, informative take on the Shockey situation this morning. It's a must read.]

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Shock's more of a head case than I thought, if, as far as I can recall,

Giants management never said anything to justify this kind of a reaction. Have I forgotten/overlooked something? Maybe Shock just wants out, but we know Reese won’t let him go w/o getting what he considers “value” for him.

by george cronin on Jun 8, 2008 10:16 AM EDT 0 recs

Enough of this crybaby already

I can’t take him anymore. Get rid of him. I’ve been a defender but no mas.

by DoctorK16 on Jun 8, 2008 11:52 AM EDT 0 recs

The stuff today

from Vacchiano and Garafolo really puts some perspective on the whole situation. Shockey is going to be a huge distraction on a team that is defending a Super Bowl title, and that’s garbage. He is, unfortunately, becoming a Chad Johnson-Terrell Owens type jackass.

by ETVal on Jun 8, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

Not to that level, but yes

he is a jackass. TO & Cinco have a reservation for a party of 2. If Shockey drags this on, then pull him a chair up to the table.

I think he just wanted to lay this out there and he might actually keep quiet about it now. Of course there is a very high probability that I’ll be wrong, but I get the sense that he just wanted to blurt this out & then use it to stop talking to the media. We’ll see. Anyway, as usual with Shockey he isn’t helping out locker room chemistry at all.

by potroast on Jun 8, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up 0 recs

The Real Boss

Shockey is done with the giants emotionally. At least the Giants still have Kevin Boss whom I think is going to make a good replacement.

Joe L

by kinglongo on Jun 9, 2008 9:09 AM EDT up 0 recs

I think this can be resolved

I’m usually not an optimist, but I see this as a family fight exacerbated by Drew Rosenhaus and the media.

From the Giants perspective, they think they have a talented player. If the player performs well, he makes the team, gets opportunities in games, and contract perks. They’ll even ignore some bad behavior so long as it doesn’t effect the team. Look at LT. He never worked out, did drugs, played pranks, and who knows what else. But as soon as he took the field, opposing QBs pissed their pants and forgot how to play. So from the Giants perspective, if Shockey plays better than boss, he’ll make the team. If he runs better routes and gets open more consistently than Burress, he’ll get more passes thrown to him. And if he blocks better and catches more passes than other TEs in the league, he’ll get a better contract. On the other hand, if he doesn’t behave and perform like a starter, they have Boss and Matthews to fall back on. They’ll take the best they can get and will do whatever they can to help Shockey be the best.

From Shockey’s perspective, well, he’s only 27. He was the go-to guy in college and probably even before that. The football world revolves around him. He knows what he needs to do. He can do it at home in Florida, he doesn’t have to come to New York. Sure, he’s had problems with injuries, but that’s not his fault. He’s still the impact player he always was. He’s never, in his mind, denigrated the Giants, so it’s unfair when the Giants, officially or through unofficial leaks, talk to the press about how he’s not on the same page with Eli and wants to be traded to a team where he’ll be ~~loved~~ appreciated.

I think this can be resolved. Shockey has had a lot of bad press. Some of it is his own fault. Some of it probably comes from coaches, teammates, and minor support staff who like to gossip about their jobs. Can you imagine what it would be like if there were reporters always hanging out at your job trying to dig up dirt on coworkers. You open the morning paper to find an article citing an unnamed source who said you didn’t get that report done on time because you were in the maintenance closet smoking weed with the pretty college intern. Sure, you were in the closet, but the report didn’t get done because your coworker didn’t send you the data you needed. And it doesn’t help matters to have this gossip reported in the newspaper.

Shockey is hurt. They won the SB without him. They proved the football world doesn’t revolves around him. Now he has to prove to everyone that he can win the ring. But he can’t do that if they don’t throw him the ball. Blocking is too anonymous.

There have been many cases of a player turning his life around. Terry Glenn was a problem with the Patriots before he went to the Cowboys. Randy Moss was a problem for the Vikings before he went to the Patriots. I have hope that the Shockey situation can be resolved by the Giants without Shockey having to go to another team. I think this next season will tell one way or the other.

by TerraByte on Jun 8, 2008 2:41 PM EDT 0 recs

A lot of "ifs" in there

Too many “ifs” in that 2nd paragraph to satiate my obviously biased, negative views on this issue; LT was, by far, more of a force at what he did – teams created offenses specifically designed to try to handle him alone! Although I do see what you’re saying….but….

I hope this isn’t the makings of a future train wreck.

4 words for Shockey, and they’re not “Shut up and play!”

More like, “Shut up and CONTRIBUTE!”

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Jun 8, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

Possible Solutions???

Shockey has to sit down and have a long discussion with Coach Coughlin. Thats the first step I can think of for him to recover from this paranoia of not “contributing” to the superbowl run. However he has to wake up and realize injuries happen to all players. Although he was unable to contribute, all players actually do “contribute” in different ways.

Joe L

by kinglongo on Jun 9, 2008 9:31 AM EDT up 0 recs

His contract goes one more year

Now, he can be a good soldier, work his ass off, and STFU, then someone will probably offer him a good contract.

Or, he can carry on with this crap, in which case the giants should just sit his butt down, and his value will go down (well, he might still get a good offer from the Raiders)

Side note – in the Vacchiano article, there were a lot of comments that Reese should have taken the offer of a second round pick – As I understood it, the Saints never offered a second round, they never got above a 3rd round

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by NYERinSF on Jun 8, 2008 2:47 PM EDT 0 recs

Contract extension.

Shockey signed a five-year contract extension with the Giants on October 12, 2005. The contract has Shockey earning $26.38 million through 2011.

Joe L

by kinglongo on Jun 9, 2008 9:18 AM EDT up 0 recs

And he wants to redo his contract?

by TerraByte on Jun 9, 2008 9:45 AM EDT up 0 recs

Havent heared about that...

No not what I have heard. Lets put it this way if the giants trade shockey then there payroll will open and then they wont go over the salary cap when they give manning, Burress and Jacobs a pay increase.

Joe L

by kinglongo on Jun 9, 2008 10:25 AM EDT up 0 recs

Who were the sources?

From the Vacchiano article:
according to sources both inside and outside the Giants organization, requested a trade and expressed a desire to have his contract redone.

Who were the sources? Maybe the Giants towel boy and the guy who sells hot dogs on Market Street in Philly.

by TerraByte on Jun 9, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

Sources

Would you really expect Vacchiano to give up who the sources were? I wouldn’t.

by ETVal on Jun 9, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

I thought what Vacchiano meaning..

I thought he meant he wants his contract redone for more money.

Joe L

by kinglongo on Jun 9, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

2nd rounder, 3rd rounder

Doesn’t matter now. This relationship is so fractured they couldn’t trade him for end zone paint

I’m so sick of Jeremy Shockey

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by jrs1940 on Jun 8, 2008 7:09 PM EDT 0 recs

WOW

You don’t think we could get at least a few gallons for him?....lmao that’s hilarious…

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Jun 8, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

End Zone Paint

Just sounded REALLY funny in my head

I was trying to imagine just the most obscure football related item, and end zone paint came to mind

I have a feeling I am about to have 2 useless road jerseys

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by jrs1940 on Jun 9, 2008 9:06 AM EDT 0 recs

Now there's a blog topic

101 uses for useless road jerseys. I’ll have to ask some of the guys at work what they did with their TO jerseys.

by TerraByte on Jun 9, 2008 9:43 AM EDT up 0 recs

my college roomate

cut the sleeves off his TO jersey, hung them up, and then lit the rest of the jersey on fire. This, by the way, was the jersey he wore every Sunday during the 2004 season (he now wears a Westbrook jersey). It should also be noted that this same roommate owned a Michael Vick jersey. Talk about bad judgment.

As for me, I save the useless ones, as they are a good way to prove you’re not a bandwagon fan. Living in DC now that the Giants won the SB, it would be pretty easy for people to label me a bandwagon fan if I were wearing shiny new Giants gear: not so if I’m wearing my #27 Ron Dayne jersey…

by cjmulrain on Jun 9, 2008 9:53 AM EDT up 0 recs