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Time to send Shockey packing

Is a trade the only way out of this Jeremy Shockey mess?

Shockey apparently had a shouting match with GM Jerry Reese during mini-camp, and now coach Tom Coughlin is referring to him simply as "an issue."

Ralph Vacchiano said yesterday in his Blue Screen blog that "a trade might not be such a bad idea."

That's a stance that was advocated earlier in the week by Daily News columnist Gary Myers.

The Giants need the firepower Shockey brings, but that is canceled out by the problems he's capable of causing. They should have taken the second-round pick from Sean Payton when the Saints wanted him very badly. Maybe those talks can be revived. Unless Shockey shows that he wants to be here and is motivated to prove the Giants can win it all with him, then he's not worth the headache. They have already proven they can beat the best teams without him.

At this point, I agree.

With a healthy, happy Shockey the Giants are more talented. Are they a better team? The fact that they won the Super Bowl without him speaks to that.

Talented as he is, the Giants don't NEED him. And that, really, is Shockey's biggest problem.

The Giants have done nothing to Shockey. He got hurt, and the Giants won the biggest prize there is without him. He's not, and never again will be, the primary weapon in their offense. His feelings are hurt.

Waaa, waaaa, waaaa. Crybaby Jeremy. Let him go cry in New Orleans. Or Oakland. Or anywhere.

The Giants won the Super Bowl as a team. They don't need Shockey tearing that down.

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It’s a very bad sign that Shockey wasn’t humbled by the fact that his team won without him. If he’s still acting like this, then it’s painfully obvious that he’ll never grow up and act like a man. Time to ship his ass out.

On a positive note, I don’t think he can tear this team down. From the quotes we heard during/after the playoff run, his teammates know how he is and will likely ignore all this bs.

by potroast on Jun 14, 2008 8:35 AM EDT   0 recs

One Problem I see with a trade now...

After this episode I have to think his value has decreased even more to any other team. Do you shove a player off at his lowest value or get him on the field for two games and make him a part of the offense and then trade him (sort of the basketball showcase method). I am just never a fan of trading good players at their lowest value, unless you are okay with getting nothing back, because it is an addition by subtraction trade. Which this may be.

by losangelesmets on Jun 14, 2008 11:02 AM EDT   0 recs

Basketball is different

There are 82 games in a season – One or two games don’t make that much difference. The season ebbs and flows. But in Football, one game can make a huge difference on the season.

by NYERinSF on Jun 14, 2008 4:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed, but...

Of course basketball is different, but I also don’t think that pushing Shockey out there and getting him through Giants mini-camp would certainly increase his value and show people he has at very least recovered from his broken leg.

by losangelesmets on Jun 14, 2008 5:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hear you

But, the Giants do have good players to take his place. If they feel it’s unworkable they need to take what they can get and move on.

by ETVal on Jun 14, 2008 10:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What I don't understand

is how he’s upset about a “perception” that the team is better without him, despite every single key person denying that perception. You can’t argue against ghosts like that. To me, Shockey’s issues are about something else. Maybe he just can’t stand not being the sole center of attention – I don’t know. I’ve rooted for the guy many times but he let me down horribly with that drop in the 49ers playoff game that should never be named, and he hasn’t quite been the same since. I think he needs to go – even for a 2nd round pick.

Watch me paste this pathetic palooka with a powerful paralyzing perfect pachyderms percussion pitch.

by Mr. Met on Jun 14, 2008 12:01 PM EDT   0 recs

I think it's too late

to get a second round pick.

by george cronin on Jun 14, 2008 12:24 PM EDT   0 recs

from the article

“He was also miffed that he was not allowed on the field during Super Bowl XLII and had to watch from a luxury box”

I thought he had made the decision to not be a distraction.

He leaves town he is going to be REVILED in NY. This is a guy whose attitude is barely/ tolerated by fans. If he whines his way out of town now, it’s gonna be John Rocker Day when his new team comes in to town.

Some sick part of me would love to see him on the Eagles just watch McNabb throw at his feet for the next two years. And watch Eagle’s fans head fall off from the 180 they do convincing themselves they liked Shockey, just like they did with TO.

by queler on Jun 14, 2008 12:49 PM EDT   0 recs

The Super Bowl thing

was a safety issue. He coudn’t move around and the Giants were protecting him. And he wants to whine about that. Great!

by ETVal on Jun 14, 2008 10:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Reviled in NY if he leaves?

Probably, but so what? Sometimes that inspires an athlete to play harder, usually it has no effect

by NYERinSF on Jun 15, 2008 3:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

but it’s always interesting

by queler on Jun 15, 2008 5:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Too Early

Let him move through the season and see if he can mature as a team player. If he hasn’t made the cut then get a sweet deal. He is still maturing and now is the time for him to focus on eliminating his faults and becoming solid.

by johnd134 on Jun 14, 2008 3:30 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm with you John

At this point, let him play his way out of the hole he’s dug. If he plays well, he’ll get back in everyone’s good graces. If he doesn’t play well, he’ll watch Boss. If he’s a distraction, the Giants will do to him what the Eagles did to TO.

by TerraByte on Jun 14, 2008 4:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mature as a team player?

He’s been in the league 6 years! If his behavior right now doesn’t make it obvious that Shockey is about Shockey and not the team then nothing ever will. He isn’t going to change.

by ETVal on Jun 14, 2008 10:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

2nd round?

I keep hearing that the Saints offered a second round, but I distinctly remember that during the draft the report was that they only offered a 3rd round,

by NYERinSF on Jun 14, 2008 4:11 PM EDT   0 recs

shockey base salary

For some additional info – here is the base salary for Shockey

2005 – $900,000
2006 – $950,000
2007 – $850,000
2008 – $2.225 million
2009 – $3.25 million
2010 – $3.825 million
2011 – $4.508 million

http://www.jeremyshockey.info/contract.html

I am not sure if teams would want to renegotiate before taking him, but I just don’t see him being worth 4.5 in 2011

by NYERinSF on Jun 14, 2008 4:35 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow

kind of shocking that this guys salary is due to triple and he’s going out of his way to bite the hand that feeds him.

We're only gonna score 17 points?

by big blue wrecking crew on Jun 16, 2008 2:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Only $850k in 2007?

Wow! That’s barely enough to make the payments on his tatoo…..

I’m guessing there were some strong performance incentive dollars to be had.

Since I think he would be shunned by the rest of the team if he deliberately caused trouble this year I’d be inclined to hold onto him. He can still play and even though we all think Boss is the tight end of the future, the future can be derailed by injury or regression when we least expect it.

by giant fan since 57 on Jun 15, 2008 7:21 AM EDT   0 recs

Two ways

He’s made his stock bad in a way, because some teams will shy away from players with big mouths. That hurts us because we will catch hell getting something decent in return.

There are two ways to handle this at this point, and only two that I see:

1) Send him wherever for whatever amount as soon as possible. Just take the hit, bite the bullet, and send him onward. There is great potential that the seeds of teamwork that were planted last season could be pissed upon by Shockey this season. That is, if this is left undresolved. Resolve it by sending him on. Enough said.

2) Piss him off even worse – pay him and send him home. Don’t let him hang around or work out with the team. I’m sure that the front office can figure out a way to do it. Any time there is a contract, there will also be loopholes. Take advantage of this and send him home.

I think the former choice is better than the latter, but either one works for me. The end result is that he wouldn’t be around, and that’s best for us in the long run.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on Jun 16, 2008 9:58 AM EDT   0 recs

When did Shockey turned me off?

When he dropped that pass in the endzone in that playoff Fiasco in San Francisco along with his obscene gesture back in 2003.

by mlabot on Jun 16, 2008 8:38 PM EDT   0 recs

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