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Weighing in on bloggers vs. the media

The musical maestro of the sports blogosphere, Ryan Parker, e-mailed me a link to his latest creation Sunday. It's a song that tackles the hot-button issue of sports bloggers vs. journalists.

I have been both, having worked as an editor and reporter for 20 years, and it is a topic I usually stay away from discussing. I would rather stick to the football I cover at Big Blue View and the baseball I write about at Bugs & Cranks .

Yet, with Buzz Bissinger's vicious attack on the blogosphere still fresh, I feel a need to weigh in. Parker's song gives me a good excuse. I'm posting this in both places, and I hope the powers that be in both groups will forgive me. But, I felt I needed to write it for both audiences. By the way, Bugs & Cranks readers will get a kick out of Parker's B&C screenshot.

The debate between the blogosphere and mainstream sports media is getting old, but Bissinger was particularly vehement in his hatred of bloggers.

Speaking to Will Leitch, editor of Deadspin during a Bob Costas special, Bissinger was bitter.

"I really think you're full of [expletive]. I think that blogs are dedicated to cruelty, dedicated to journalistic dishonesty."

Bissinger completely misses the spirit of what the blogosphere is all about.

Bloggers are NOT journalists. We are fans. We are SUPPOSED to be emotional. We are NOT supposed to be objective. And, despite what some in the mainstream media still want to believe, we ARE entitled to our opinions.

Bissinger and others who have blasted the blogosphere -- like Rick Reilly, Costas and Michael Wilbon -- cling to the old belief that they decide what is important. They tell us what they think we need to know. They know more because they get to talk to the players. That makes them the EXPERTS.

Hogwash! Tell me Tony Kornheiser knows more football than I do and I'll laugh in your face. Yet, he is on Monday Night Football so his opinion is supposed to be valid and mine isn't? That's nonsense.

There are writers in the mainstream media who are extremely good at what they do. There are others who are just idiots with an agenda. These days, I'd put Mike Lupica in that category. I wonder when the last time was that he actually went anywhere near a lockerroom.

The same holds true with bloggers. There is good and there is bad. I'll be honest, I'm a little older than most bloggers and some of what I see in the blogosphere offends me. So, I choose to ignore it. Just like I choose to ignore writers or columnists whose work I don't like.

When it comes to reporting facts, that has always been and will continue to be the job of the mainstream reporters.

When it comes to opinion, mine is just as valid as any mainstream columnist, talking head on the radio, or reader who chooses to comment.

It's opinion. I watch the games. I read the accounts. I see the quotes. I know the Yankees and Giants inside and out. I don't need a press pass to figure out that Ian Kennedy is pitching terribly and deserves to be back in AAA. Or, that Jerry Reese has done a brilliant job in his short tenure as Giants' general manager.

Why is my opinion less valid than Mark Feinsand's or Peter Abraham's? Reality is, it isn't. And, there is nothing wrong with me having a place to share my opinion.

These mainstream guys who are complaining are threatened by bloggers. Sports  news has become more a discussion instead of a one-sided lecture, and they don't like it. Quite simply, they are less important than they used to be.

Get used to it, fellas. Blogs aren't going away.

BallHype: hype it up!

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Wow Ed

Nicely said. I finally saw the Bizzinger thing over the weekend, and he just comes off as a bitter old man. I really felt bad for Leitch, because it looked to me like Costas had set him up for a Springer-style ambush. Sorry, but most reporters are jerks, and few of them are “experts”.

I can tell you the sun is shining in South Florida right now, it don’t make me a Meterologist.

The problem with blogs is that its making the average reporter work harder to give people like me information that I can’t get somewhere else. That’s what makes Garafolo so good, he does give us info that we can’t get from other places

Keep up the great work, and I’ll keep giving you great replies :)

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by jrs1940 on May 5, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Great points

I agree with everything said here. Just to add one more point, I think that the mainstream sports journalists do have some value when it comes to giving us insight into teams\sports that we don’t follow closely. If Wilbon gives me his insight into the Hornets-Lakers matchup, then I’ll probably listen. I’m not going to spend my time reading up on other teams in the blogosphere. As soon as they start spouting off about the Giants or Yankees, then I tune them out. They simply do not have as much insight into my teams as we (blogging community) do.

Also, great point on the average reporter jrs. MG is very good. If these guys want to stay relative, then they’re going to have to work their butts off for it instead of cruising along.

by potroast on May 5, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

There are five sports stories

Facts- wins, e.r.a., completitions, etc.
Breaking news- trades, boat scandals, retirements
Direct access- interviews, pictures, sound bites, insider stuff
Interest pieces- retrospectives, local legends, stadium reviews, surgery comebacks
analysis- the stuff you yourself bring to the discussion

You can fit most pieces into a combination of these. Writers may be upset that blogs undermine the breaking news aspect, and provide competition for interest pieces and analysis. But the thing is, the best sportswriters should excel in an age of internet blogging. Because while fans like direct access and interest pieces, it is exceptional analysis that really shines on the internet.
Blogs drive tv and print media to perform better, to put a better product out there. If I watch sportscenter, or read sporting news, much of the analysis- if there is any- is suspect.
To me, the best sportswriter brings his (or her) own voice and viewpoint which cannot be replicated and which I will seek out. It is clear, it is intelligent. Sometimes it is scathing- but only when it proves a point and is rarely vindictive.

And most importantly, the writer makes me think about my own opinion, rather than getting me more worked up to simply voice my own thoughts.

by vherub on May 5, 2008 12:06 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Their grammar and spelling is horrid

I quit reading the local newspaper when the local sports guy incorrectly spelled the hometown name. The next week he incorrectly spelled the county name. How can he cover the college/high school scene if he can’t spell the name of the street on which they play? I know there are editors and spell checkers and such, but that is simply horrid.

And as for the ‘big guys’ , if you took 3 pieces of dried – up monkey crap and glued it to a piece of plexiglass, you’d have something worth more than the credit I give most sports analysts.

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on May 5, 2008 12:34 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Ed, your comments jarred my memory and made me

realize that the days of the great sports journalists are over as far as I can see, guys you read every day because they knew what they were talking about and wrote like angels.

by george cronin on May 5, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Ed

Your last 2 sentences sum it all up for me…......Good job

We're only gonna score 17 points?

by big blue wrecking crew on May 5, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

The great A.J. Liebling

famously said that “Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one.”

Up until recently, that freedom was the province of a select few. Nowadays, anyone with a keyboard and an internet connection can set up their own virtual printing press.

And thank god for that. No longer am I solely dependent on the likes of Mike Lupica or Steve Serby when I’m jonesin’ to read some commentary on my beloved Giants, Knicks or Mets. I can now reliably find insightful, well-reasoned analysis of my favorite teams on at least a half dozen blogs that I regularly visit.

The best bloggers – at least the ones I most enjoy reading – are fans whose love of a team or the game is their primary motivation for writing. Guys like Lupica and Serby are more in love with their own words or their role as media personalities than they are with the subjects they cover. Ed is spot on when he writes that these guys “are less important than they used to be.” They’re not used to sharing the limelight with writers who are their equals – or better – in talent and smarts. Gotta gnaw at their guts a little, I reckon.

The poster formerly known as jj pisarcik

by knickfan on May 6, 2008 1:44 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Knickfan, on the money

Lupica has only been occasionally interesting for years, where he used to be a must read. Serby is a Jet lover who writes the same article every year about the Jets going to the SB and just changes the names (I actually wrote the Post about 10 years ago about this, and they printed it….I still have the clipping somewhere)

Garafolo, Mushnick, Schwartz, and Dellapina are my must reads

I am a huge Phil Mushnick fan. Anybody that critical of Mike and the Mad Dog and John Sterling HAS to be good

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by jrs1940 on May 6, 2008 9:23 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Parallel to what is happening in the all news and communications

Warning – Very META – not about sports at all, but rather about media and communications -

It is also a plea for Net Neutrality If you value this blog, and others like it, learn about Net Neutrality .

The history of communications has always been a battle between those who want to control information and those who want information to flow freely.

Back before the Guttenberg invented the printing press, only the church leaders and nobles could afford to have scribes. They basically controlled the flow of information

In the years after the printing press was invented, the technology spread, and by the time of the American revolution, almost anyone could afford a press. There were hundreds of “pampleteers” at the time of our revolution, Thomas Paine being the most famous and influential. They were, essentially the bloggers of the time.

Over the next two hundred years, the ownership of the media in this country became more and more concentrated – A small number of large corporations control what you see on TV and read in newspapers and magazines. They have control the political discussion, and set the agenda.

Then came the explosion of the internet. It is almost like the printing press revolution in high speed – suddenly, the “powers” can’t control things anymore. It not only threatens there control of information, it also threatens the revenue stream – As I have noted before, I own a small business (small shameless plug – we sell great organic chocolate. if You haven’t sent mom a mother’s day gift yet, now is great time) . I hardly advertise at all in print – almost 100% of my ads are online.

The large corporations want to take control of the conversation again, and protect their revenue. That’s why net neutrality is such an important issue. I really urge you to learn about it

Save the Internet


Net Neutrality on Wikipedia

Hands Off the Internet

by NYERinSF on May 6, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I agree...

Your comparison to the printing press is very true.

by giant fan since 57 on May 7, 2008 7:00 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Sounds about right

FJM’s skewering of Bissinger is worth your time too, for those who want to read more on the subject.

I think they summarized it very well when they said:

Picking a random blog comment and wielding it as a club to bash “blogs” is like picking a random romance novel off an airport bookstore shelf and saying, “This book sucks. Fuck you, Tolstoy—your medium is worthless!”

by JoshNY on May 7, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs


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