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All-Time Team defense is set

Spider Lockhart edged Jimmy Patton, 31-24, in the voting for the second safety position on our Big Blue View All-Time Giants Team. So, our defense is set.

Now we move to the offense.

Let's start with the least glamorous position on the offensive unit -- center.

To be honest, this should not even be a contested position. Hall of Famer Mel Hein should get this position, no question. Having said that, and probably biased the vote, I will put it out there for you guys to decide anyway.

Your nominees:

  • Mel Hein -- Four-time Pro Bowler and five-time first-team All-Pro is a 15-year Giants career. Elected to the Hall of Fame in 1963. Here is the Giants.com blurb on Hein: "Originally joined the Giants in 1931 and played 15 seasons for the Giants, a record of team service that is matched by only Phil Simms. He was named All-NFL eight straight years from 1933-40. Following a successful college career at Washington State, Hein wrote to three NFL clubs offering his services. The Giants bid the highest at $150 per game. Hein was a 60-minute regular for 15 years. He played in a Giants team record 172 games. Hein never missed a game in the National Football League or in college and high school. He took time out only in two games and was injured only once. Hein was named the League's Most Valuable Player after anchoring a line that helped guide the Giants to the 1938 World Championship with a 23-17 victory over the Green Bay Packers at the Polo Grounds."
  • Bart Oates -- Five-time Pro Bowler in an 11-year career. Two of those Pro Bowls came while Oates was a member of the San Francisco 49ers, however. Played on two Super Bowl championship teams.
  • Ray Wietecha -- Named to four Pro Bowls and honored once as an All Pro in a 10-year career from 1953-62.
  • Greg Larson -- One Pro Bowl appearance in a 13-year career spanning many of the Wilderness Years, 1961-73.
  • Vote in the attached poll. You have until next Thursday night.

  • Big Blue View All-Time Giants Team

    Punter -- Sean Landeta
    Placekicker -- Matt Bahr
    Defensive End -- Michael Strahan
    Defensive End -- Leonard Marshall
    Defensive Tackle -- Roosevelt Grier
    Middle Linebacker -- Harry Carson
    Middle Linebacker -- Sam Huff
    Outside Linebacker -- Lawrence Taylor
    Outside Linebacker -- Brad Van Pelt
    Cornerback -- Dick Lynch
    Cornerback -- Mark Collins
    Safety -- Emlen Tunnell
    Safety -- Spider Lockhart

Poll
Who should be the center on our BBV All-Time Giants Team?
Mel Hein
44 votes
Bart Oates
26 votes
Ray Wietecha
2 votes
Greg Larson
6 votes

78 votes | Poll has closed

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Ray was great...

He was the center that anchored the line for some great Giant teams. But based on career stats you are right to say that Hein deserves our vote.

by giant fan since 57 on May 23, 2008 7:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Besides being a great center

I remember reading about how Mel’s ability to accurately snap the ball in the single wing formation gave their offense an edge most other teams simply didn’t have. Really an all-time great in the NFL and not just for the Giants.

by rzor on May 23, 2008 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Right, rzor.

He was able to snap it to the back in motion, which no other center could do (successfully.)

by george cronin on May 23, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw a vote somewhere for the all time best

eleven NFl players. It included some one way players, like Jim Brown. Two Giants made the list, Mel Hein and Cal Hubbard. I think Hein is widely acknowledged to be the best center to ever play the game.

by george cronin on May 23, 2008 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Bart Oates

Bart did have an awesome episode of haunting Carl on Aqua Teen

by queler on May 23, 2008 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

however

I did not vote for him, I’m curious who’s not voting for Mel Hein. It’s like voting against LT. Another great stat, he is the only offensive lineman to win the NFL MVP award (1938)

by queler on May 25, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been looking over the names on the defensive eleven.

It’s an awesome bunch. My only qualms are with Marshall and Grier, but when all is said and done they were formidable plyers even if not HOFers

by george cronin on May 24, 2008 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes

It is a very imposing defense. When all is said and done I will do an analysis of what we end up with. I suspect it will be a team that only a few historic franchises could match.

by Ed Valentine on May 27, 2008 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love Bart Oates

But Hein is a no-brainer here

by JoshNY on May 27, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

ETVal

You must’ve read my most recent fanpost, thereby causing you to taint the voting, and even boast about it. Talk about corruption…geez…lol (only kidding now, pipe down)

We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.

by GAgiantfan on May 29, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Well

At least I didn’t use my Fidel Castro like dictatorial powers to forbid you from voting at all. Just warned of the dire consequences of not seeing things my way. LOL!!!

by Ed Valentine on May 29, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

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