Thoughts From The Armchair: NFC East Champs Edition
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 8, 2008 12:00 PM EST
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Some thoughts from me on yesterday's game:
- I know I am beating a dead horse, but Kevin, Kevin, Kevin.....you slipped back into "Madden 09" play-calling yesterday. What was with the fancy toss plays? Pound, pound, pound. Trying to run to the outside all day played to the Eagles' strength.
- Moose, we get it, you don't like the Giants, but you are doing your viewers a disservice when you gush about the Eagles for 3 hours like they are 12-1. Giants played like absolute garbage yesterday, and were still within a short and curly of stealing it. Either get over the fact Jerry Jones doesn't sign your checks anymore, or go work for ESPN.
- Hix, you've been handed the keys to the kingdom, gotta get your head in the castle, son. Dropping that touchdown pass, inexcusable, Eli can't throw em' any better than that. That bobble on the punt could have been disastrous, too. We know you have talent, get out there and show them.
- I've decided it's no longer therapeutic to talk about bad officiating.
- I'm not buying into the "teams are figuring the Giants out" nonsense. It's baloney. If the other 31 teams don't know what the Giants are about, they have no business collecting a paycheck. Teams have been trying to beat the Giants for weeks by keying the run, and Eli made them all pay. Yesterday was just a bad day, and I would be very surprised if they don't respond well next week.
- Brandon, you gotta get healthy bro. Same with you Aaron, watching you two guys limp off every week is frustrating.
- One more thing on the announcers yesterday: After spending 40 minutes talking about how the Eagles had the wind in the first quarter, why would they think the Giants called time out before the end of the 1st quarter to let the Eagles kick with the wind? Dumb.
- By the way, going "with the wind" has little meaning at Giants Stadium. The wind at the top of the stadium is rarely blowing the same way at field level this time of year. Case in point: Sav Rocca hits a punt "with the wind" for 30 yards in the first quarter, while Feagles hits one for 42 "against the wind".
- NFC East Champs. Not bad for a franchise that has never won more than 8 games following a Super Bowl appearance. Enjoy it, click the "Fan Shop" link on the left, buy a "NFC East Champs T-shirt", and relax guys. There isn't one fan in football who wouldn't trade positions with us.
Three quick NFL thoughts:
- Ben Roethlisberger was running for his life on every play last night. Props to him and the Steelers for finding a way to win that game.
- A funny thing happened on the way to the Jet dynasty, huh?
- I saw the last 10 minutes of the Cardinals game yesterday. Shame on you, Cardinal fans, for going home early and not being in the stadium to watch your team celebrate its first division title in 33 years. Don't give me all this "Protect The Nest" BS when your stadium is half empty at the end of a game that sees the Cards win their first title in the desert. Apologies to the good people at Revenge of the Birds, but Cards fans have to do better than that.
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There isn’t one fan in football who wouldn’t trade positions with us.
I can honestly tell you that the way the Eagles are playing I would not trade places with you. If we get into the playoffs NO ONE is going to want to play the birds. I certainly dont envy the Giants and the Plaxico thing either.
Giants fans should no better than anyone that its not the “best” team that wins the Super Bowl, but rather the hottest team
an Eagles fan should be an Eagles fan during an 0-16 season
That "if"
Is a pretty big word, friend. A team that ties the Bengals, gets their hat handed to them by Baltimore and then whups the Cardinals on two and half days rest doesn’t scare me. Eagles dominated the Giants for most of the game yesterday, and had a 3 point lead to show for it for most of the 2nd half. Again, the Giants were a hairsbreath from stealing it. Let’s not get carried away by this 2 game sizzling hot streak your Eagles are on.
“Ifs and buts” don’t win rings.
"24 hours of losing, we've had enough!"
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 8, 2008 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Final score
The Giants dominated the Eagles the first matchup and the Eagles were within a hair of stealing that one at the end.
That’s they way these games are. Don’t act as if the final score takes anything away from the win. I’m sure you weren’t downplaying the Giants win earlier in this season because the score was closer than it should have been.
I'm the one that said "IF"
my not wanting to switch places is contingent on the Eagles getting in. If they dont obviously i’d rather be in your position…
What i’m saying is the Giants seem like a team in turmoil to me. getting into the playoffs would mean that we’d be riding a 5 game win streak and would have beat the entire NFC East the last 4 weeks of the season.
C’mon man, if you’re honest with yourself you have to say that the Eagles beating the Browns, Redskins and Cowboys isnt that far out of reach
Hello Run Game! Boy have we missed you!
I hear you
but anything can happen. I think ‘in turmoil’ is kind of strong, to be honest. It’s one bad week for the giants in what has been a great season. No need for panic around here.
I agree
One loss is nothing to panic over… but what if the Giants lose next week? 2 straight division losses? Will it be time to worry a bit then?
And let me say… I along with all Eagles fans will be rooting for the Giants next week and I’d be very surprised if you guys didn’t win that game.
agreed...
Dallas is imploding. I’d pick the Giants by two TD’s
Hello Run Game! Boy have we missed you!
No you hope the Cowboys are imploding.
It will be sweet to put the death nail in Mcnabb’s Eagle career.
If that happens
I am sure there will be lots and lots of gnashing of teeth around here. Fact is, though, the Cowboys will be desperate for a win. The Giants won’t. I just want to see the Giants play well. And, yes, I would love a ‘W.’
Most of the folks here are sophisticated enough
fans to have long ago expected that winning two of our final four games would be likely. I just hope this week is one of the wins.
by giant fan since 57 on Dec 9, 2008 4:50 AM EST up reply actions
Who on the 98 Broncos shot themselves in the leg while getting help from a star linebacker to hide the gun?
Hello Run Game! Boy have we missed you!
Lol
stop harping on the Plaxico situation. Its over. Everyone will have to deal w/ it.
If we were in this situation last year, I’d be feeling like the sky is falling. Thankfully for us, it happened this year. A year after we won the best SB ever played. A year after Reese’s nacht for finding talent off scrapheaps and later draft rounds.
We have more than capable play makers who will stretch the field for us, the key is to get them on the field and start tinkering w/ them. The Gints will do this soon enough, and we will find our identity again come playoff time, yes fellow freinds I do believe we have gone away from our identity.
We have loads of talent littered up and down this roster and this team is built to take hits like the loss of Plaxico. Your inability to understand that is remarkable considering what you have seen from this team all season long.
The Gints will come out to Texas, guns blazin. Tooms, Hixs, Smith, Boss, Moss and everyone else who needs to step up now that Plax is gone, will.
This team isn’t built around one player, ie Eagles, Cowboys, Skins, Vikes, etc… The Eagles lose BW for a month and they will go 1-3 or 2-2 at best. Depth is what we are loaded with. Just watch.
sorry for the double post...
but i dont think the giants would go better than 2-2 without Eli.
Every team has guys who cant be replaced quickly
Hello Run Game! Boy have we missed you!
BW
Brian Westbrook. He’s the playmaker on that O, and Mcnabb’s saftey valve.
Def
agree on the Eli part, Him nor Tuck can be lost at any point for the rest of the year.
Problem is
You have to worry about getting in. We don’t. You are not being honest with yourself if you said you would trade your 7-5-1 for our 11-2 record and NFC East title. Don’t be silly.
by Ed Valentine on Dec 8, 2008 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
The Eagles have like 20
Teams in front of them. Your superbowl was yesterday. Enjoy Christmas at home with your familes, once again. Be sure to cheer for the Giants on their way to the real Superbowl.
The Eggles
Are actually looking at Atlanta and Dallas for that 6 seed that, according to 700, is the envy of the conference. They have a patsy game against I think Cleveland, but given their inconsistency that could go bad … I don’t think it will. But they’ve got to finish against Washington and Dallas, which it’s probable they’ll split. That leaves them at 9-6-1, and with their crummy division record Dallas and ATL would best them by winning 2 of 3. Now, if the Eggs can put 3 straight up — unlikely, but not inconceivable — they’d be at 10-5-1, and that would force ATL to win out … otherwise the Eggs are your 6 seed, playing Arizona or Minnesota … a winnable game for anyone over .500 in the NFC.
And in that case, we’d get that rubber match. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you, 700. But I’m glad you’re not opting to trade places.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 8, 2008 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
drop the 0
Its two teams ahead of us. If we beat the Browns, Atlanta loses next week, and you guys beat the cowboys, the 6th seed has our name on it
Hello Run Game! Boy have we missed you!
Not going to argue with you guys
But I’d rather be 11-2 and in then 7-5-1 with a basketful of “ifs” and “buts”
I didn’t say the final score diminishes anything, I just think you guys are getting a little carried away.
You gotta be in it to win it, and you guys got work to do.
"24 hours of losing, we've had enough!"
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 8, 2008 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Any idea how the wind is going to play at the new stadium?
I’ve been kind of worried about that,b/c it can kill any semblance of home field advantage, as we saw yesterday.
I think the play calling was really what did us in yesterday, especially those two tosses on 2 and 1
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
I would
be surprised if the architecht didn’t take wind factor into consideration. He may not have built around it but something to diminish the notorious swirling winds that invade the Medowlands and Eli’s passes.
well...
it was fun having good civil rival chat with you guys. If we’re lucky we may get to see you again this year… theres a lot between now and that.
I appreciate that i can come over here and talk Eagles/Giants without it getting personal!
Happy Holidays!
Hello Run Game! Boy have we missed you!
i would trade posistions
but don’t blame the officiating that game as the Eagles had two huge non calls on blatant pass interferences.
Another thing, as JasonB said don’t sugarcoat that loss with the score. we won by a lot more than the scoreboard indicated. I know blogging isn’t formal journalism but just own up that the eagles on that sunday came and played better than the giants. us eagles fans did just that a month ago.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
I agree
that the Eagles dominated way more than the scoreboard showed. If the halves were 20 seconds shorter, we would have been shut out. That said, it cuts both ways: the Giants have dominated a few games where the score has been closer than it should have been (both Redskins games, the first Eagles game, possibly others), and I’ve heard the fans say “we kept it close, the Giants aren’t that good.”
Chill with the cockiness, eagles fans
on one hand we lost bc we’re a team in turmoil, on the other hand bc the eagles are “dominant”? this game came down to bad offensive playcalling, crucial dropped passes, and AP getting beat out by BW.. for example, 2nd TD run, we load up in the box, BW cuts left, AP overpursues, BW to the right and scores. the only mental mistakes made were by antonio pierce and kevin gilbride otherwise the rest of the team played as they always do but had some bad luck in execution with dropped passes, eli suffering with the wind (5 yards short to amani toomer in the end zone, etc)… and hahaha, no, i wouldnt trade my NFC east 2008 division championship and playoff spot for your 0 superbowl “i tied with the bengals, yes ties exist” shirt, if, but, the falcons/saints/bears/bucs/cowboys blah blah. I’m happy with where the gmen are at. Keep in mind this game was a learnign curve for how teams will defend us when theres no threat of plax.. look for kevin boss to be used differently, instead of running along the seam on 2nd and longs and 3rd and longs we’ll have him running curls or whatever so there is no way he can be double teamed by an end and a linebacker as the eagles did for some plays on sunday. i fully expect us to rebound from this game and beat the cowboys. one thing i’ll give props to the eagles for: o-line play. you handled our pass rush as good as any playoff-caliber team and i guarantee you Osi was at home running into walls bc he wanted to rip McNabb into shreds so bad. By the way, that “wave” to the giants fans.. i wouldve chucked my beer at him.
that's exactly what I said at the moment
It would have been hilarious to see that loser no-ring schmuck with a $9 budweiser dripping off his Chunky soup hawking face
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 9, 2008 7:31 AM EST up reply actions
700
Let’s just let it go. Move on to your next game, and we are moving on to worrying about the Cowboys and getting ready for the playoffs.
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