Reactions to Sunday's loss by the Giants
Here is some reaction to the Giants' loss to the Eagles on Sunday.
- From SI.com's Don Banks.
I know it's going to be the easy (snap-judgment-like) postgame take, but put me down for not buying the Giants lost to Philly because they were distracted by the never-ending Plaxico Burress melodrama.
New York had played at an extremely high level of efficiency for all but one game this season and merely was due a clunker. And as noted, the Eagles are no slouches right now. In this year's NFC East, especially in December, anybody can beat anyone, anywhere. ...
The Giants didn't lose focus because of Plaxico's legal troubles. They just lost.
That is a sentiment I agree with wholeheartedly.
- Eli Manning on the loss.
I think that’s just football. You have off games sometimes. Obviously, the conditions don’t help things, but for us, we’re not going to make excuses. We just didn’t play our best football today.
- Giants' coach Tom Coughlin after the game.
We didn’t play very well. We have no excuses. We got beat on the field. They had time of possession, they had rushing yards, they had every stat. I thought we got a real good shot in the arm right before the half with the blocked field goal and score, but we were not able to capitalize on it. We didn’t do anything with the ball in the third quarter when we had the wind and they managed to make first downs into the wind and really hold the ball the entire period. As I said, Philadelphia played well today and they played better than we did. We didn’t make enough plays.
- I generally hate agreeing with Mike Lupica of the New York Daily News. But, today I do.
There is no question that the Giants were distracted Sunday when they lost, 20-14, to the Eagles. But the distractions were not Plaxico Burress and Antonio Pierce and everything we have read and heard since that gun went off.
Here were the distractions for the Giants Sunday, in no particular order: Donovan McNabb. Brian Westbrook. All the Eagle receivers who made third-down catches in front of soft Giants defensive backs all day long. And that huge Eagles offensive line was a distraction, because it kept the Giants' defense off McNabb in every moment of the game that counted. So were offensive and defensive schemes for the Giants that seemed to have come from the moon.
Domenik Hixon dropped what would have been an 85-yard touchdown pass Sunday. Pierce played a lousy, listless game that even included dumb penalties. So of course this all played into the worst fears of Giants fans about the fallout of Burress being gone for the season and maybe forever. But it is only a calamity if it happens again, especially if it happens next Sunday night in Dallas.
- Jeff George of NFL.com points out that the Eagles defenders were not shy in saying that the Giants offense is not the same without Burress. Here is a quote from Brian Dawkins.
"Listen, I don't mean to take anything away from the rest of their guys or that receiving group, but not having Plaxico out there meant we could funnel our defense in different ways and force the ball more to where we wanted it to go. We were able to take our chances in man coverage on the outside and get nasty with pressure on the inside. You can do everything right with Plaxico and he is 6-5. He can make up for any advantage you create by simply mauling and out-jumping you. He makes you back up and back off. Did it make a difference? Absolutely."
- Peter King also highlighted the Burress issue in his 'Monday Morning Quarterback' columm.
Philadelphia defensive coordinator Jim Johnson and his men had a brilliant day -- and highlighted a big problem for the Giants. Maybe I wouldn't be writing this if Domenik Hixon catches the simplest deep ball he's ever had thrown to him in a football game, the sure touchdown on the first play of the second quarter. But the Eagles played a totally different defensive game with Plaxico Burress sidelined for New York, and it bodes ill for the Giants against tough defenses down the stretch (Dallas, Carolina, Minnesota).
When the Giants and Eagles played the first time this year -- a 36-31 Giant win four weeks ago -- you could see how Johnson consistently kept a safety deep, often to Burress's side of the field. "We had real matchup problems with Plaxico,'' Johnson told me after the Eagles' 20-14 win Sunday. "We always have. We had to double him a lot, and he was such a dominant force in the red zone.''
Burress had seven inches on the three Eagle corners he faced in the first game. Hixon is four inches taller than Sheldon Brown, Asante Samuel or Lito Sheppard, but he's a beanpole, and you can jostle him and be physical with him. Burress not only had a Yao-versus-Kobe edge, but he knew how to box out in the old Michael Irvin way -- you know, without getting caught by the officials.
The other thing Burress' absence did to this game was allow the Eagles to be much more physical against the running game. You could see it right from the start. Brian Dawkins wrestled Kevin Boss like he was trying to impress Vince McMahon on one of the game's first snaps, a sign the Eagles were going to try to beat up the Giants. "No question about it,'' Johnson said. "We were going to be the more physical team today.'' The safety being in the box was hugely helpful.
First meeting: The Giants rushed for 219 yards, averaging 4.9 yards per rush. Second meeting: The Giants rushed for 88 yards, 3.7 per carry. "Our run lanes were so much better this time, and we didn't let Jacobs get out on the edge,'' Johnson said.
- Ian O'Connor added that the Giants are in denial if they believe they won't miss Burress.
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Wow
The hospitals and clinics will be full of people with broken ankles suffered while jumping off the Giants bandwagon
Good God, I had no idea the Giants were supposed to win every game by 30 until Rapture.
Season’s over, I’m done, back up the truck!
See you all in August, maybe.
Eli stinks, Jacobs stinks, Burress and his 35 catches and 4 TD’s were the only reason the Giants were 11-1. The defense sucks, Coughlin sucks, Reese sucks, this organization is a joke, they are worse than the Jets, maybe even the Lions, bring back Dan Reeves, where is Kent Graham when we need a QB? Feagles is old, Carney is old, Giants haven’t drafted anybody good since April, God I am so sick of them.
“24 hours of losing…..we’ve had enough!”
Or better yet
“Welcome to the 24th hour of our 3 hour rebuilding plan”
All Giant season ticket holders will meet in the parking lot before the next home game for a season-ticket burning party to show the ownership of the Maras that we are just sick and tired of all this losing.
Giants fan from the womb to the tomb
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 8, 2008 11:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious!
When you all finish laughing, I hope you get the message. Chill. We lost, but we still have a great team.
by Ed Valentine on Dec 8, 2008 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Two quotes come to mind....
Turn The Machines Back On!!!! Turn the Machines Back On!!!!
Over….did you say over….Nothing is Over Until We Decide It IS!!!! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?……….Hell No, and it aint over now!
by Intellectual Derriere on Dec 8, 2008 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Question for you guys?
Should the Giants start Carr on Sunday? Shaking things up might stop the bleeding. I hate to panic, but this team hasn’t won a Super Bowl since Feburary, and I am starting to worry.
"24 hours of losing, we've had enough!"
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 8, 2008 11:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think
we need to bring back Ray Handley.
by Ed Valentine on Dec 8, 2008 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we're all optimistic
that this was merely an aberration, and not a complete indication of where the team is going. Hopefully yesterday was the perfect storm of playing a tough, hungry team that probably needed the win more than the Giants did, challenging weather conditions that made it tough to execute, questionable play-calling on Offense and failure to execute on D.
Look, the timing of everything non-football related last week definitely sucked – but let’s hope the team just puts this one completely behind them.
And for the record; Eli played GREAT yesterday, even in spite of the wind, which is something we haven’t been able to say in the past (he has been challenged by conditions like that in the past). So I think that bodes well for the future.
by Cody K on Dec 8, 2008 11:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good point re Eli despite what the stats say.
Mayb not “great,” but well, anyway.
by george cronin on Dec 8, 2008 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think theyre missing Osi more than Plax
The pass rush just hasnt been the same the past few weeks, perhaps theyre getting a bit fatigued.
I put that loss on crappy play calling and great performances by McNabb and Wesbrook
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
by bren on Dec 8, 2008 11:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize
Sorry, I didn’t know that measured criticism of a flat effort and bad game was unwelcome
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 8, 2008 12:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nobody said it wasn't
For an 11-2 team that has done so many wonderful things, though, there has been an awful lot of negativity today.
by Ed Valentine on Dec 8, 2008 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was more referring to the media
than the fans here, although a few of the posts here today have been a bit armageddon-ish
"24 hours of losing, we've had enough!"
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 8, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Boy....
You must be “One of Those Fans”… LOL!
I’m with you. Not everything is always rose coloured glasses. There isn’t a Giants fan alive that isn’t excited about this team’s 11-2 start. There isn’t a Giants fan that isn’t upset with how they played yesterday.
Yesterday’s steaming pile of shabookie should have Giants fans upset. It should have the entire Giants organization and team upset. To just dismiss it as only a bad game and start celebrating the 11-2 record and division crown is short sighted. I would say anyone who thinks it was all Giants bad play, and had nothing to do with Philly’s game plan are the ones in denial.
Hopefully the Giants will address the poor play on the field and find an answer to the holes that Philly was taking advantage of. They need to because there are still 3 regular season games to be played and hopefully 3 playoff games to win.
by Intellectual Derriere on Dec 8, 2008 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Losing battles, winning wars
If the Giants were 7-6, yesterday’s loss would have me pissed off until Saturday. As it is, I was pretty much okay by the time Tony Homo issued another great choke-job. The Steel is great this year.
For all the talk of how hard it is to be a fan of a losing team, I think it’s equally hard to be a fan of a great winning team. There are several pitfalls, and being married into a Patriots family and having UConn women’s basketball fans in my family, I know them well:
1. Entitlement. Fans feel that anything but blowout victories are losses. This means that wins aren’t as enjoyable, too, because they’re expected. What good is even a Superbowl if you felt it was deserved?
2. Doomsday. Whenever there’s a loss, to blow it out of proportion and take it more than the one-game issue that it is. Sometimes, when teams lose, it’s reflective of a systematic and organizational problem. I don’t think we have that.
Anyway, you can never expect me to have afterglow on a Monday following a loss. But let’s just say the pain of such a crappy game went away faster than any I can recall.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 8, 2008 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well plus
The Eagles are the best team in football, haven’t you heard? No shame in losing to them…..
"24 hours of losing, we've had enough!"
by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 8, 2008 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
instant newscycles
The "invincible machine that falls apart is an interesting story. Plus, it is a safe one.
From a writer’s perspective
If the Giants completely screw up the rest of the season the writers can say “see, I was right, they fell apart”
If, the Giants do what we all expect, pull it back together, refocus, and play the kind of football they are capable of, the writers can once again talk about their resiliency, and it will make for an interesting story line.
OTOH, had the writers said "oh, no sweat, don’t worry, it is just one game, and the Giants totally screw up the rest of the season, the writers come away looking like idiots.
Playing Cassandra is usually the low risk way to go. Predict disaster enough, and sooner or later you are right. And everyone forgets the times you were wrong.
My take? The Giants can still beat any team in the NFL, but it will be more difficult. Losing Plax was part of it, he is a big, dangerous weapon, but not all of it. Osi out, and Jacobs banged up are a big part too.
by NYERinSF on Dec 8, 2008 5:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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