Will Shockey trade lead to Sean Payton's demise?

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 18, 2008 7:00 AM EST

Unfortunately this story came out tonight, too late to make the Wednesday Walk. We've talked in the past about the 2nd rounder the Giants got for Jeremy Shockey turning into a 1st rounder, but there seemed to be a few differences of opinion on just how that would happen. We can differ no more, this article seems to explain it:

If ex-Jets linebacker Jonathan Vilma participates in 85 percent of the defensive snaps (he has started all 14 games) and if the Saints sign him to a contract extension, the Saints would have to send to the Jets the second-round pick currently earmarked for the Giants.

And the Giants then would get a first-rounder. For Shockey.

Here is the rest of the article from The Sporting News

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They assigned Hagan Number 80.. he might think he’s pretty popular at the game this week when he sees his number everywhere

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

by Hoyadestroya85 on Dec 18, 2008 7:16 AM EST reply actions

Vilma/Shockey

I’ve heard that there is no way the Saints re-sign Vilma because of this. Anyone else hear that? I don’t remember where I heard it.

Even if the Giants don’t get the 1st, they still get the 2nd & 5th. So no matter what happens this was a steal, especially for a team that drafts so well.

by potroast on Dec 18, 2008 7:18 AM EST reply actions

Absolutely

When you look around and see some of the trades that are made, I don’t think it can be overstated how amazing it was for the Giants to get a 2nd round pick for Shockey.

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 18, 2008 8:06 AM EST up reply actions

doesn't sound like the Saints will resign Vilma

http://blogs.nfl.com/2008/12/11/saints-wont-extend-vilma-to-detriment-of-new-york-teams/

It's not easy being Giants fan in Philly.. but it sure is satisfying

by Hoyadestroya85 on Dec 18, 2008 7:27 AM EST reply actions

Maybe we can sign Vilma

since the Saints aren’t gonna extend him. I don’t know how he’s doing this year, but I used to love him at Miami, and he was awesome his first few years with the Jets before they switched to the 3-4. Pierce has looked pretty bad lately, and is getting up there in age….I would be ok swapping him for Vilma.

by cjmulrain on Dec 18, 2008 8:16 AM EST reply actions

Is it just ironic

that the picture shows Shockey dropping the ball or are you sending a hidden message, jrs1940?

by TerraByte on Dec 18, 2008 8:20 AM EST reply actions

LOL

I was just sitting here thinking the same thing about Shockey dropping the ball.

by Ed Valentine on Dec 18, 2008 8:21 AM EST up reply actions

I really wanted a picture

from the screaming match Brees and Shockey had, but couldn’t find one.

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 18, 2008 9:15 AM EST up reply actions

I thought

he was levitating it with his mind.

by ryanwk628 on Dec 18, 2008 10:24 AM EST up reply actions

i seem to remember

The reason this all works is because the #2 that the Saints gave us, wouldn’t be their’s to give us if Vilma meets the conditions. The Jets get the 2 for 2009 instead. Since the Saints no longer would have the #2 to compensate us, the Saints instead give us their #1 for 2010. Worth noting.

by queler on Dec 18, 2008 9:38 AM EST reply actions