some will never be satisfied. the same people that bash Eli are the ones that said the Knicks were better off without Patrick Ewing (they’ve done pretty well since that trade in 2000, eh?), call Derek Jeter overrated (already has four rings and an outside shot at 4,000 hits), and question Mike Piazza’s sexuality when he was putting up offensive numbers that no other catcher had ever sniffed at.

“I’m so tough on my guys because I want them to win so much.” – Harry Caray. i think that quote defines New York sports fans.

Once said this about Phil Simms:

“Everybody is pretty tough on Phil, but someday they are going to look back and say "I wish we had a guy like Simms”

I think the same can be said about Eli.

All I can say is this: I’m proud of the way the kid has handled himself, improved his play, and matured in an impossible situation. He has outplayed all of the “top” QB’s in the league at one time or another. I’m glad he is a Giant, and I am glad he will be for a long time.

Does he make me scream at the TV sometimes? Absolutely. But so did Simms, so did Kerry Collins, and don’t even get me started on the nameless rabble that came in between those two.

I’m not going to worry about some hack at the Dallas Morning News just trying to suck up to his readers, or a guy from ESPN, who obviously has no clue what Eli has done this season, including the second half.

I hate the media, long live the blog!

is the last place you need to listen too. Eli is a great qb. I’d say that ring on his finger says everything.

I think Eli’s just not very likeable, and that’s his image problem. He looks pouty out there on the field, and he seems like the rich preppy type off it. It’s really taken me until this year to “like” him. Even after the Superbowl, I was more just grudgingly accepting.
Bottom line, the kid’s an accurate passer, he doesn’t get rattled by pressure, and he doesn’t fall easily in the pocket. He’s proven he can win big games. He’s won in the cold and in the heat, on the road and at home. He’s a good quarterback, and the naysayers basically can’t take an objective stand against his development and results.

Matt Berry is talking about fantasy, that’s a real stupid quote to be compiling. What worries me, is I don’t think Eli is a good bad weather QB. Actually, scratch that, he just doesn’t play well in wind, which is unfortunate in Giant’s Stadium. Now we were talking about how Eli goes in to the huddle with 3 plays. Obviously in that kind of wind teams are going to the stack the line, so I can see Eli choosing the passing play. Maybe it’s still Gilbride’s fault for giving him that option in that kind of wind. Either way, some is making a bad decision throwing that much in that kind of wind. The same thing happened in the Redskins game last year.

I think one of the problems is Eli even admits he doesn’t throw a particularly tight spiral. That makes a huge difference in the wind.

They just said he had a shitty game — which he did.. Well, the entire team didn’t have a great game… Although, I think we only threw at Webster once. That guy is a stud cover corner.

It happens to every QB though. Did you not read the media when McNabb was struggling?

QB Eli Manning is the first quarterback in Giants’ history to throw at least 20 touchdown passes in four consecutive seasons.

You look at that, plus the ring, plus the SB MVP – and if that doesn’t say it all…..I don’t know what does. Eli has proven himself time and again. Come on, if the Giants’ backs are to the wall down by 4 with ~2 mins left…WHO ELSE do you want as your QB?? Seriously, think about it – how many times has Eli looked miserable only to come up with an amazing drive to end the game? The kid pulls a rabbit out of a hat more times than not. Let the media hate on him and discuss his demise all they want while I look forward to the next game winning drive.

I think its the media. They are always looking to take down a “golden boy”, Not that Eli is a “golden boy” (that’s Brady, IMO), but Eli has has some great growth and success within the past year.

He wasn’t the only one who had a bad game last Sunday…the whole team looked kinda crappy. You guys are friggin’ 11-2, the only 2 games the Giants have lost were just bad games. I said the same thing after the Cleveland game that I will say (type) now: its just possible they needed that loss to get their heads focused to where they should be: on the field.

The Plax thing has to have been distracting, for crying out loud.

I have listened to the media “bag” on Peyton for years: “he’s not clutch” and “he chokes in the playoffs”. One would think after overcoming an 18 point deficit in the AFCCG and winning a Superbowl (finally) the media would shut-the-hell-up. NOPE. This year, after two knee surgeries and no training camp, Peyton “is on the decline”. Why would they treat Eli better?

Eli rocks. He has a quiet strength to over-come adversity. He will be fine. And, I am hoping for an all-Manning Superbowl!!

Genetics. Archie. Peyton.

I don’t think we’ve seen even close to the best of Eli yet.

No giants QB will ever have fantasy value at home during the winter, its too windy…..so I hope the new stadium isnt quite as drastic in terms of wind effects.

I think this type of hating will be present throughout his career….but that trade isnt look so bad now that Merriman has been outed as a steroid user, which subsequently ruined his ligaments.

weep , weep sniff…………..it’s not fair……..weep , sniff……it’s not fair!
Maybe he could put a little more wobble on it and try not to hit them in the chest with the ball so the world will think he’s better.

Since this has turned into something of a Manning vs. Manning vs. Manning discussion, and since many of you are new, I thought I would give you guys the link to the story we ran in the offseason comparing the 3 of them

http://www.bigblueview.com/2008/5/31/542145/mannings-among-men

Eli is more advanced than Peyton as far as where he’s at in his career but what all of us Giant fans are enjoying is how he’s improving to get to where Peyton CURRENTLY is, learning how to adjust plays before the drive by reading what the D puts out…… and I speak for the majority of Giant fans when I say we have faith in the fact that he’s clutch and comes through for his team in high-pressure situations (ref : 52 sec TD drive, cowboys div victory… game-winning SB TD Drive.). He has played well throughout the regular season with one slip up at the Browns; I don’t blame him for the loss against the Eagles, the man did everything he could with what his receivers were putting out and with the winds at the Meadowlands. Eli puts up those Ws and we giant fans love him for it.

The fact that it’s Eli’s career high isn’t exactly an awe-inspiring factoid about him. If we need to compare him to Peyton (which I think is an unfair standard of comparison, but a popular one), Peyton has had a higher percentage than that every year except as a rookie. Eli has that 61.1% in his age-27 season; Peyton has been at 65% or higher every season since age 26.

And using won-lost records to compare quarterbacks is almost as poor a means of comparison as using it to compare pitchers. The fact that Eli is throwing fewer interceptions and netting more yards per attempt this year is a lot more significant. His passer rating is actually higher than Peyton’s this season as a result.

Saying that Eli has nothing left to prove is just silly.