Never Too Soon To Start Thinking About A New WR...

by Cody K on Dec 1, 2008 5:47 PM EST Comment 27 comments

'm as fed up as you all are about this Plax issue. As some of you know/remember, I was one of the first to speak out in his defense last week. However this latest incident it a selfish, obtuse, inane, immature, and ridiculous act. I'm tired of his BS, and I think he's a complete idiot. Ok, I got that off my chest; but its all a moot point; as he's never going to suit up for the mighty GMEN again.

Now, let's turn our thoughts to the Free Agent WR's out there. The guys below are all in their contract years (special thanks to FFToolbox.com for the information) - they're listed with their current team, age, and yrs of NFL experience):

Miles Austin

Justin Jenkins

Dane Looker

Brandon Middleton

Koren Robinson

Derek Stanley

I like the upside of Marques Colston a lot. He's big and tough - and seems to have really good hands.

Houshmandzadeh is a very solid WR who could come on the cheap; but I don't think he's a huge upgrade over the guys there now

Thoughts?

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Ocho Cinco

He’s one I left off because he is still under contract to Cincy. Obviously he is a HUGE talent, but I think the Giants front office might be wary of bringing another “me-first” head-case at WR.

by Cody K on Dec 1, 2008 5:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

NO

the reason you would ditch plax would be because he is a distraction
plax has an attitude problem but Ocho Cinco is a three ring circus
the giants should settle for nothin less than Colston, TJ, or you can trade plax for some picks, nothing less than a first rounder, and then package those picks along with the picks they got for shockey and trade for boldin if they cant do that then they should keep plax
if he keeps causing problems you can trade him at the deadline
VVVV Roy williams got traded at the deadline and chambers did a year before him theres no reason plax cant be next

by gdizzle320 on Dec 1, 2008 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey Fellas, Dallas fan here

I come in peace, just wanted to point out that when Dallas traded for Roy Williams, they signed him to a long extension. Your info may be a bit dated.

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by BigDinSC on Dec 1, 2008 6:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

Definitely dated information, thanks.

by Cody K on Dec 1, 2008 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Here's the thing

Who on that list is better than what is in house?

Colston and Hoozie, definitely. Other than that?

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 1, 2008 6:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

TJH

Agreed that he’s solid – but I don’t even think he’s that much better than the guys in house.

by Cody K on Dec 1, 2008 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

As a 3-time

Houshmananana owner, I love the guy, though he is on the older side. I think Colston is obviously the most attractive name on this list, and would absolutely LOVE the G-Men to get him (he’s a Hofstra grad to boot…local guy and would stick it to the Jets), but the only thing that concerns me is he has a bit of an injury history. If they could put a package together for Boldin, you do that deal yesterday. He might be the best receiver in the NFL, he’s still young, and he’s tough as nails.

Other than those 3, there’s nobody on this list who’s an upgrade over what we already have. Re-sign Amani, draft a tall, athletic WR (doesn’t have to be a first rounder, but let’s stay away from the small, fast guys, none of whom have panned out for us yet despite picking a ton of them over the past decade), and have some competition next year.

by cjmulrain on Dec 1, 2008 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

*3 time fantasy owner...

by cjmulrain on Dec 1, 2008 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Colston and Housh

There the only #1 talent on there I think. i see so many teams every year through money at a guy who’s only been a great #2. You never know how that guy will perform when he’s 1) facing double teams he never got before, 2) facing the top corners on opposing teams, and 3) Difference in Scheme/QB. Best two examples of this are Peerless Price (playing opposite Moulds) and Jerry Porter (playing in the slot with HOF’s Jerry Rice and Tim Brown). Neither were remotely adaquete #1’s. Plax was is one of the few successful (I mean becoming what you paid for) free agent or traded WRs. The road is littered with guys who never performed the same. TO is only other one off the top of my head. I can think of a bunch of other guys who haven’t, Price, Porter, Keyshawn, Mushin Muhammad, Javon Walker.

by queler on Dec 1, 2008 6:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Alvin Harper

That’s another guy you can add to the 2nd banana list who went elsewhere and sucked (he left Dallas to go to Tampa Bay) – that attention paid to Michael Irvin was huge…

by Cody K on Dec 1, 2008 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

TO

was already a #1 by the time he left SF though. Granted, he was the reason they let Rice walk (blasphemy), but it wasn’t like another team was taking a shot in the dark on him.

Also, not sure if you were talking about him with this, but keep in mind that while Boldin has had Larry Fitgerald opposite him the last few years, he also had one of the best seasons ever by a rookie WR before Fitz got there.

by cjmulrain on Dec 1, 2008 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

right

I’m saying those are the guys you go for. Shouldn’t Boldin be on this list. I’m hugely in favor of throwing the bank at him. Or is he just destined to be a cap cut.

by queler on Dec 2, 2008 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

TJ Who's Your Mama

For sure or leverage some of our extra picks from Shockey and/or spare parts to get Calvin Johnson from Detroit

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 1, 2008 9:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

it would take a lot more than "spare parts"

to pry CJ from Detroit. that’s really the only player on that pathetic excuse for a team that is worth holding onto.

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Dec 1, 2008 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well you dont really build around a WR

So they might be better served by maximizing his return.

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 1, 2008 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

could you imagine

without him, there’s literally not a single NFL-caliber player on that team developed by Matt Millen. If they trade CJ, that would have to be a record turnaround of players for a sports franchise (even quicker than the post-Isaiah Knicks!)

by cjmulrain on Dec 1, 2008 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I will throw Bryant Johnson name in the ring.

Alright Colston and TJ are layups. Huge talent, probably really expensive and lots of suitors. if they can get one of these guys great, but here is a player I really like; Bryant Johnson.

Bryant Johnson is a underutilized talent in SF and previously in AZ. He is 6’2". Big, athletic with questionable hands. I haven’t seen him much this year, but I use to watch him in AZ and could not believe this guy did not get more playing time, but with Boldin and Fitzgerald, It was tough to find time. He has not proven to be a number 1 guy, but I think he could add that height and strength at WR that the Giants lack.

Anyone have an opinion of this guy?

by losangelesmets on Dec 1, 2008 11:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

6'2'' isnt really that big

considering how tall Plax is, Toomers gotta be bigger than that too. I would imagine Plax wont be replaced immediately.

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 1, 2008 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

he was great in college

But I don’t think you can say he was under utilized in Arizona, Boldin played him out of a job

by queler on Dec 2, 2008 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Before I read

any comments I stopped reading the list. I would take MQ at the drop of a dime. Except for his injury history the guy is awesome. We’ve all seen his talent and we should all want him. Big bucks yes, but the funny thing about that is we have so much cap space.

by ProudYankee on Dec 1, 2008 11:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

MQ

I totally agree. HUGE upside on that guy. I just don’t think that the Saints let him go for nothing….They’ll try to match or even franchise him.

by Cody K on Dec 2, 2008 11:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Not Reese's style

to go heavy into the free agent market. I wouldn’t expect any big free agent signings.

He seems very invested in building from youth

It is possible he could trade up and go for a big receiver in the draft.

Toomer is great this year, but I don’t think he has that much gas left in the tank. Hixon and Smith are doing fine, but I don’t think either one is a dominating number 1 receiver.

That’s the pity of Plax – he has the talent to be one of the top 6 receivers in the league.

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by NYERinSF on Dec 2, 2008 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but...

Plax is a big time receiver, but its not predicated on speed or precise route running, he has great size and hands…..so we can find another big play receiver who might actually do things that Plax couldnt do….and perhaps trading up to get a first rounder might be a feasible way to do so.

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Dec 2, 2008 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Free Agents

I’m just worried about having the same problem as the Eagles

by queler on Dec 2, 2008 4:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by problems..

you mean that we need to sign a bigtime free agent wide receiver??
(eagles fan, I’m not here to start anything dont worry)

I don’t think we need to sign one, a TE yes, but thats a different story.
desean jackson, kevin curtis and hank baskett are solid, although I would want a bigtime WR like TJ anyday for mcnabb..

Honestly I think the Giants have the deepest receiving corps in the league and will still burn my eagles this sunday :(
losing plax is good for your team

by Manoovi on Dec 2, 2008 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs