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Giants at Redskins, Open Thread

NEW YORK GIANTS (10-1) GAME #12 WASHINGTON REDSKINS (7-4)
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Date: November 30, 2008 Location: Washington, D.C.
Time: 1 p.m. EST
Stadium: FedEx Field
TV: FOX
Radio: WFAN (660 AM)
Final Score: Giants 23, Redskins 7

Thank goodness it's game day! We can stop talking about Plaxico Burress for a little while and talk about today's action.

Here is your Open Thread for today's Giants-Redskins NFC East clash. Enjoy the game!

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Plaxico has not distratcted me...

the wings are in the fryer

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 30, 2008 11:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Attaboy!

Hopefully, the Giants can keep their eyes on the prize.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 11:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

From Mike Garafolo
A bit of good news for the Giants: RB Brandon Jacobs, who was listed as questionable for today’s game with a knee injury, is expected to play, according to someone familiar with his status who requested anonymity. That is, of course, barring any setbacks in warm-ups.

MG

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 30, 2008 11:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Greek's picks

With everything else going on, no separate post for ’Greek’s’ picks today. Here they are.

Denver (8) at NY Jets
San Francisco at Buffalo (-7)
New Orleans at Tampa Bay (-4)
Carolina (3) at Green Bay
NY Giants at Washington (3.5)
Miami at St. Louis (9)
Baltimore at Cincinnati (7)
Indianapolis (-4.5) at Cleveland
Atlanta (5.5) at San Diego
Pittsburgh (1) at New England
Kansas City (3) at Oakland
Chicago (3.5) at Minnesota
Jacksonville (3) at Houston

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 11:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is it on Plax from me,

from NJ.com:

LANDOVER, Md. – Giants president and CEO John Mara and GM Jerry Reese held a brief session with reporters in the press box here at FedEx Field a few minutes ago in which Mara expressed regret the team is dealing with the Plaxico Burress situation.

“I’m disappointed this happened and that any of our guys would put themselves in this kind of situation,” Mara said. “Or first concern is for Plaxico’s health and well-being. We were very relieved to find out he is okay. But yeah, I’m disappointed.”

Reese seemed disappointed he hasn’t yet had a chance to talk to Burress.

“I reached out to him. I did not get a return phone call,” Reese said. “So I haven’t spoken to him yet.”
Giants WR Plaxico Burress will surrender to authorities when requested — without a warrant — and will address his legal issues as early as tomorrow, according to the lawyer who will be representing him, Benjamin Brafman.

Ok, enough about him.

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 30, 2008 11:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Brafman

Defended P. Diddy during his club + guns issue in 1999.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 12:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

me and brafman are tight

yo i live 2 blocks away from ben and we are pals plax unfortunatly is in good hands

by shenkthetank92 on Nov 30, 2008 12:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so

3 1/2 year mandatory sentence is the end of his career.

by TerraByte on Nov 30, 2008 12:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he won't do that

He’ll plea out to something and maybe get to spend a few days in the tombs.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 12:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I mentioned

this incident to the clowns at BloogingtheGirls and noone had a clue about it. SHine still doing time…. THats a shame.

by ProudYankee on Nov 30, 2008 2:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

According to Glazer

Giants will go after his $$. Plax is probably done with the Giants.

by TerraByte on Nov 30, 2008 12:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

since ed hasnt posted the inactives yet here they are

K Lawrence Tynes
WR Plaxico Burress
CB Sam Madison
RB Ahmad Bradshaw
LB Jonathan Goff
T Adam Koets
DE Jerome McDougle
DT Fred Robbins

REDSKINS
QB Colt Brennan
LB Marcus Washington
DT Kedric Golston
G Jason Fabini
G Chad Rinehart
DE Erasmus James
TE Fred Davis
DE Rob Jackson

by shenkthetank92 on Nov 30, 2008 12:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

no Bradshaw

I guess his next was a problem. With the rain and a Jacobs nixed could be see a bit of Danny Ware today.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 12:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well either Ware or Droughns

I can’t imagine the Giants are going to risk Jacobs with more carries with Bradshaw out. I wouldn’t mind seeing Danny Ware carry the ball a little

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 30, 2008 12:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jacobs and Ward

I doubt you will see anyone else carry the ball.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 12:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

NP

makes no difference to me whether i post them or somebody else does.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Hixon

and does Hixon get kickoff return duty or will it be someone else now that’s starting?

by McConkidonk on Nov 30, 2008 12:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta be Hixon

Hixon and D-Ward are the only ones who really have the experience. We’ll see.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 12:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

He’s got longer legs, won’t have so far to run.

by TerraByte on Nov 30, 2008 12:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we may see Moss returns punts

something he has done here and in college

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

when I say

“are we ready?” you say “aaaoooo!”

when I say “who are we?” you say “the last place New Orleans Saints!”

God, give me a break, so sick of the Saints

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Nov 30, 2008 12:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

help me

crosby or carny
evans, ward, welker, fitzgerald, or ginn jr…. which 3

by shenkthetank92 on Nov 30, 2008 12:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what pisses me off

is AP, he should’ve know better, hopefully no sanctions will be applied to him

by Bajaserge on Nov 30, 2008 12:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

a case can made that AP

was as dumb as Plax. Ray Lewis can give advice about how bad an idea obstruction of justice is.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I love Carney

That extra point was hilarious.

by TerraByte on Nov 30, 2008 1:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great start

I guess you can say the Giants are ready to play.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 1:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow!!

Toomer ran right PAST HIM! I didn’t know he had the jets!

by Cody K on Nov 30, 2008 1:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great start so far

Hixon looks great, and Eli was fitting those balls in their real tight that drive. And the Redskins are doing there best Notre Dame impression so far (2 straight 3 and outs)

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 1:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Boss Man!

that’s what happens when you blitz big…

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 1:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

A direct snap to Ward?

Next, Alford will have to try a direct snap to Feagles .

by TerraByte on Nov 30, 2008 1:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Eli

Is on F*ing fire. He’s on the $$ today; even in these conditions. I love it.

Hix looks great. You better believe Reese is going to say to Plax, “do you really think we need this BS, plax?”

by Cody K on Nov 30, 2008 1:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I gotta admit

that drive was scary in its efficiency. Eli was sooo accurate. If I were the Skins, I’d let Jacobs run it. At least the Giants wouldn’t score so fast.

by TerraByte on Nov 30, 2008 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

get up Shaun........

that’s not looking good. I hope he is ok…

by Cody K on Nov 30, 2008 1:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Eli looks great

Pretty soon teams will stop this ‘make Eli try to beat us’ stuff.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 1:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah no kidding

Was that Moose saying “pick your poison”?

by Cody K on Nov 30, 2008 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Toomer is looking great too, and the Redskins shot themselves in the foot with the penalty (too easy to make a Plax joke there, but I couldn’t think of a better way to phrase it)

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 1:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hall misses a tackle

on 3rd down. Kenny Phillips has made two drive-stopping tackles on third down. Those are things that decide games.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

golden opportunity...

Bummer, that’s when it hurts to settle for a FG instead of a TD.
Good drive though. Skins tightened up in the green zone

by Cody K on Nov 30, 2008 1:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yep

and I still hate calling it the green zone, especially the way we seem to struggle down there. I almost hate seeing us get first downs inside the 10, b/c I have little confidence we’ll punch it in. I prefer having the ball 15+ yards out, that seems to be how we score our TD’s.

Now let’s get another 3 and out.

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

One Plax thought

The minute we cut him the Cowgirls or Redskins will sign him and we will have to game plan against his ass twice a year. Keep this mind.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 1:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree 100% with you

This is the NFL; every team thinks they can cure the malcontents and headcases. There will always be a place for a troubled yet talented player. I’m not saying that this should be the only reason for the Gmen to NOT cut Plax – but the minute the GMen cut him, someone else will pick him up. Simple as that. And yeah, odn’t be surprised to see him in Philly, Dallas, or Washington.

by Cody K on Nov 30, 2008 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Philly

because Andy Reid tasting TO probably might make him skittish. But JJ and Snyder will be on the phone with Rosenhaus in no time flat.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ward screen

OK, I am officially tired of the ripping of Gilbride now. We have had a direct snap, a beautiful screen to Boss and another imaginative screen to Ward. The guy keeps adding stuff to this offense all the time.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 1:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the only time I criticize Gilbride

is when he tries to get too cute down by the goal line. With our O-line and Jacobs, there’s no reason to ever call a shotgun draw inside the 5.

In Gilbride’s defense though, the players have had a hard time punching it in when they get down there no matter what is called, so I don’t really blame all those problems on him

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

screen taken long by Ward

Redskins defense always had trouble defending that, even back to the Tiki days.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 1:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

screen pass

Ward broke it for 48 yards

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 1:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

obviously is early in the game

But are the Giants sending another “big” message" to the rest of the NFL saying, NOTHING CAN AFFECT US!!! AND WE WILL WIN GAMES NO MATTER WHAT

by Bajaserge on Nov 30, 2008 1:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Carney

never misses. I love me some old kickers

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 1:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Carney

the guy just keeps on making kicks.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 1:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

but what the heck

are with the kickoffs!

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 1:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I’m kinda surprised the Redskins have only had 1 leading rusher since 1933, and it wasn’t even Riggins. I always thought of them as a power-rush type team, so that seems strange.

Oh, and great sack!

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

they've always been a two back team

for as long as I remember until maybe now.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ah crap

If Portis is hurt and out for the rest of the game, my fantasy team will finish with a combined 6 points from my running backs this week, and I need a win to make the playoffs. I was hoping Portis could get a junk time TD or something, after the Giants put the game away!

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 1:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

that sucked

clean pick taken away by a ticky-tack penalty that happened 10 yards back

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 2:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ridiculous penalty

against Webster. And it costs the Giants a touchdown.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 2:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yep

that was complete BS

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That was a complete BS call.

Unreal. Just ridiculous. Some home-cooking for the Skins.

by Cody K on Nov 30, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

why no hix?

Uhhmmm…….why isn’t Hixon returning kicks??

by Cody K on Nov 30, 2008 2:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

cause hes the x reciever

and taking every snap on offense

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hixon

is playing every down, plus punt returns. I think the kickoff thing is just a way to give him a little break.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wow

Toomer is looking rejuvenated. And with that, Eli’s over 200 yards passing, with 7 minutes left in the first half.

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 2:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

c'mon

where’s the hands to the face penalty??

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 2:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think it's a catch

he had solid possession of the ball all through that roll, even if the ball did graze the ground.

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 2:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

D Ward

What the heck was he doing?

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 2:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

this sucks

we dominated this half and are only gonna be winning by 3 if he hits this.

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 2:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

never mind

good thing Suisham sucks

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what happens when phantom calls get made to negate a turnover

nothing more irritating than watching your defense dominate all game, then have one bad drive…where they step-up big and stop the drive with a pick…only to have it negated by some non-existent penalty that the referees seemed to pull out of their @$$.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 30, 2008 2:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah baby!!

Jacobs should have been in on the 1st play.

Great drive. Clutch play by Eli. Glad they didn’t have to settle for 3. Yadda Yadda Yadda.

by Cody K on Nov 30, 2008 3:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Redskins played "Bad to the Bone"

after that INT – lol!

Watch me paste this pathetic palooka with a powerful paralyzing perfect pachyderms percussion pitch.

by Mr. Met on Nov 30, 2008 3:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Every time I see that slant play

that Hixon did so well there, I think of Patrick Clayton missing that easy huge gain for the Cowgirls in the playoffs last year. Ah, the memories.

Watch me paste this pathetic palooka with a powerful paralyzing perfect pachyderms percussion pitch.

by Mr. Met on Nov 30, 2008 3:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

one quarter to go

Giants are in control, but they should still have more than 20 points.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We're getting into that non-competitive game range

where the networks switch to a “better” game. I think that’s why the Giants always play to the level of their competition.

by TerraByte on Nov 30, 2008 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh - I hate that corner pass on 3rd and 2

Watch me paste this pathetic palooka with a powerful paralyzing perfect pachyderms percussion pitch.

by Mr. Met on Nov 30, 2008 3:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hate giving it to Ward on 2nd and 1

when Jacobs is finally finding his groove.

But is anyone more awesome than Carney? One miss all year, and it was a block.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 30, 2008 3:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Execution and play calling tightened up a little too much in the red/green zone though

I really don’t get it; whether its Gilbride or failure to execute…

either way, the Giants have to just play better in the red/green zone. Sometimes the 3 just isn’t going to cut it.

by Cody K on Nov 30, 2008 3:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Moose made a good point

Saying that Plax speaking in the 3rd person was shirking the responsibility.

PS: Plax will be charged with criminal possession of a handgun. Grrrrrrrrrrreat.

by Cody K on Nov 30, 2008 3:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

well he has experience with this sort of thing

playing on the most lawless teams in sports history

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 3:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Siragusa has a little experience there too.

Watch me paste this pathetic palooka with a powerful paralyzing perfect pachyderms percussion pitch.

by Mr. Met on Nov 30, 2008 3:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true dat

although the Ravens only had the one keynote issue vs. the Cowboy teams that Moose played on will be legends for their off the field issues

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, don't compare Plax's situation to Taylor's

Taylor may not have been the greatest of guys, but he didn’t deserve what he got, and certainly didn’t bring it upon himself with an act of gross stupidity and recklessness.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 30, 2008 3:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i think the comparison

is apt in that Taylor fate might have been why Burress felt he needed to pack heat

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Taylor got shot in his home

if Burress is so paranoid about his safety, he shouldn’t feel justified bringing a gun around with him, so much as he shouldn’t be going places where he feels a gun is needed to begin with…which I’m glad Goose just mentioned.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 30, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Redskins must love junk stats

because this drive is going to serve no real purpose. Just like week one against the Giants, when Kiwi got that cheap-hit put on him on tone of the last plays of the game. And now Campbell gets destroyed by Tuck…just bad all around.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 30, 2008 4:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It was the end

down by at LEAST two scores, 1 minute left. It’s done. At a certain point, it’s considered foolhardy and just play DANGEROUS. It would be inexcusable if they were losing by 40, and this was equally as ‘done’ a game.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 30, 2008 4:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

three straight now in DC

i love when the Giants beat them in their backyard.

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Nov 30, 2008 4:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

11-1

Great game. Another great response to adversity from a very special team.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 30, 2008 4:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good win today.

Should be an interesting week ahead.

Watch me paste this pathetic palooka with a powerful paralyzing perfect pachyderms percussion pitch.

by Mr. Met on Nov 30, 2008 4:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah between Burress and Marbury

the sportscolumnists should be kept busy.

by DoctorK16 on Nov 30, 2008 4:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good win

it wasn’t the crispest game (they should have won about 35-0), but I’ll take it. 11-1 for the first time ever, not too shabby. I’m going to the game next week (even though I have a final the next day…eek). Last time I went to a Giants-Eagles game, they set a record for most sacks in a game. Hopefully this time they’ll tie a record for most consecutive wins against teams with winning records.

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 4:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

smart move

make sure he’s away from the team for the rest of the season, but it gives them a chance to hold off on making an ultimate decision until the season is over.

by cjmulrain on Nov 30, 2008 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate to say it but I agree -

Probably the smartest move for everyone, given the circumstances.

by Cody K on Nov 30, 2008 5:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great win

I might not have been the prettiest win, but not many of them are. The important part is that we are 11 and 1 and in control of the NFC. Next stop Giants stadium against the Eagles.

Go Giants.

Giants fan from Zantac to Prozac.

by Murfdog on Nov 30, 2008 5:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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