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New York Giants' notes, 10.09.08

Yahoo! Sports Wednesday asked the question no defensive player in the NFL wants to think about. What would it be like playing against the New York Giants if they let Brandon Jacobs carry the ball 30 or more times in a game?

Here is Justin Tuck's thought on that scenario.

“I look at it as, if he wasn’t on my football team and I had to play against him, I wouldn’t want him to get 30 carries. I already told him, if at anytime in our careers we’re not on the same team, the first time I have to hit him, I’m going to try to knock him out the game so I don’t have to deal with him. Every play after that, I’m going to be diving at his ankle. He’s as big as I am. Man, they don’t pay me enough for that.”

Here is Giants' running back Reuben Droughns considering the possibility.

“I know what you’re saying about letting him just have a whole game. We’re not going to do that here, but that would be special. You see how guys try to tackle him now. They might try to take him on once, but then they turn away, try to take him from the side or ride him out of bounds.

“A whole game like that? Beastly. The defense would probably quit. Guys would be asking out all game, like ‘I don’t want none of that.’ ”

Jacobs, 6-foot-5, 265 pounds, is averaging just 16 carries per game, but is 10th in the league 380 yards rushing. He averages 5.8 yards per carry.

With Derrick Ward (33, 217, 6.6) and Ahmad Bradshaw (18, 119, 6.6) the Giants don't have to depend solely on Jacobs. That will be better for them as the season wears on.

Still, though, it's kind of fun to think about what Jacobs could do to a defense given 30-35 carries.

  • The Giants have the best offensive line in football, according to Cold, Hard Football Facts Hog Index. In fact, according to this measurement the Giants average of 5.85 yards per rushing attempt thus far in 2008 is unprecedented. The 1963 Cleveland Browns -- yes, the Jim Brown Cleveland Browns -- are the standard-bearers at 5.74 YPA. With the brutal schedule they have the second half of the season the Giants won't stay at this lofty number, but it is fun to look at.
  • Here is Eli Manning's take on why the Giants offense has played so well through the first four games.

We have always had the ability to make big plays and we have always made big plays, but sometimes we had so many negative plays where we had penalties or we had just some bad football being played at times where the big plays kind of cancelled out the too many bad plays we had.  It is just a matter of, hey, let’s just play consistent football, let’s play smart, let’s just kind of do what we are supposed to do and naturally those big plays will happen.  We have athletes; we have good players, so those things are going to happen and we take advantage of those long runs or the long pass, but let’s not hurt ourselves also with the bad plays and try to force things when they are not there.

  • NorthJersey.com suggests that it is time for the Giants to tear up Eli's contract and sign him for the rest of his career.
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Signing Eli

Is a great idea, and well deserved.

As far as how the offense has played, the best is yet to come. Let’s be honest, the offense has only played one really good “complete” game. I would say they’ve played good all year, and brilliant at times.

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by jrs1940 on Oct 9, 2008 8:01 AM EDT   0 recs

As far as Jacobs goes

I would never want to see him carry the ball 30 times a game.

The reason why can be explained in two words: Earl Campbell

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by jrs1940 on Oct 9, 2008 8:44 AM EDT   0 recs

Right, plus

he seems to get nicked up more easily than Campbell did (a bigger target, maybe?) We’re doing fine with him just the way we’re using him.

by george cronin on Oct 9, 2008 8:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

20-25

i think he should get more touches than he does now, maybe they’ll go up once we start playing against teams within the division.

by Hoyadestroya85 on Oct 9, 2008 10:26 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Touches

There will be games where he gets that many. It’s a loooong season, and he does get nicked up with the hits he delivers — and takes. I love the way they are using him, and getting touches for Ward and Bradshaw. No reason to get him beat up when you don’t have to.

by ETVal on Oct 9, 2008 10:31 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

on yahoo sports

on that same article they mentioned during the NFC championshig game, the very first play BJ just knock out woodson to the ground. They mentioned that many packers players said that woodson was not the same during the game and I agree, I have watched that game several times and you could see how there were plays were woodson would not even try. I rather play him the way the giants are using him right now, not risking him, as we saw last season that anything could happen regarding injuries, I rather have him play like that for many years than few years because the played the whole game and got injured all the time.

by Bajaserge on Oct 9, 2008 11:45 AM EDT   0 recs

Agreed

Less seems to be more in Jacobs’ case, and the Giants have the depth to protect him.

by ETVal on Oct 9, 2008 12:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ditto for me

you can’t really see the value of the punishment Jacobs delivers, not to mention what he must do psychologically to the defense. He may be only gaining a few yards at a clip early but a lot of his value comes when Ward and Bradshaw are getting their carries after the D has taken their " body blows". Even at that BJ always seems to get a couple of long ones that help out in the stat sheet.

We're only gonna score 17 points?

by big blue wrecking crew on Oct 9, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Exactly

He helps the other backs with what he does.

by ETVal on Oct 9, 2008 2:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jacobs

I think he’s as good a running back as Larry Johnson was 2-3 years ago. He got the ball 35 times every game, and look what happened to him. If the Giants didn’t have any adequate backups, I’d want them to be giving the ball to Jacobs more, but luckily they don’t have that problem and I like things the way they are. I’m obviously biased, but I think the Giants have the best running attack in the NFL right now.

by cjmulrain on Oct 9, 2008 3:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Not to throw sand in the gears here.....

But I agree with CJM’s thoughts. I think Jacobs is a complete beast – but he should be phased out of each game by the middle of the 3rd Q. Jacobs to soften up the D., then Ward and Bradshaw to run right past ’em.

And….if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it; but why have we seen so little of Bradshaw this season?
He is just SUCH a weapon.

Either way, I hope that the team keeps winning like this. Wins seem to make complaining about not getting the ball mysteriously disappear….

by Cody K on Oct 9, 2008 4:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Bradshaw

Cody, you will see plenty of Bradshaw before the season is done. The Cincinnati game is the perfect example of how the Giants will use him. As a game-changing, momentum-changing type player. They will use him when they are in trouble, and the only time they have been in any trouble was against the Bengals. You simply can’t get three backs equally involved, it’s just not possible. And you can’t argue with the production from Derrick Ward. He has been tremendous.

by ETVal on Oct 9, 2008 4:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

no Pacman post, Ed?

i figured that was news-worthy enough to discuss on a rival’s blog.

<tick, tick, tick, tick….> Dallas’ season could so easily go up in smoke with the pieces of trash they have on that roster.

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Oct 9, 2008 4:42 PM EDT   0 recs

A lot of us said it

They are teetering on the brink with him & TO. I mean honestly, why do people have so much faith in Phillips being able to keep that together? What has he ever done?

by potroast on Oct 9, 2008 4:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe tomorrow

I was working today and didn’t think getting caught writing about Pacman would thrill my boss. LOL!!

by ETVal on Oct 9, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL!!! Do you guys recall which "real" team Dallas lost to?

if I recall correctly, we’ve already beaten them. See you in week 9 my friend. On Monday there will be a discussion worth having. GO BLUE!!!

“that’s my quarterback…(sob) that’s my team…”
- terrell owens as a Dallas Cowboy

by NYcON on Oct 9, 2008 9:29 PM EDT   0 recs

LOL

Unfortunately, you are responding to a comment from a Dallas troll that I went ahead and deleted. I’m not dealing with guys bringing that tone here this week.

by ETVal on Oct 9, 2008 9:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good

Thanks….

We're only gonna score 17 points?

by big blue wrecking crew on Oct 10, 2008 2:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My bad

Didnt realise yall couldnt handle the language you know exactly what im talking about with Eli just listen to anything he has ever said. Its like a 16 year old vergin trying way to hard to sound like his older brother. I mean give me a break people inside yalls organasation admit people dont respect him. Just think how much different things would be if Samuels knew how to catch a ball.

"And if i dont do nothin ima ball" - Terrell Owens as a Dallas Cowboy

by DallascowboysTO on Oct 9, 2008 11:22 PM EDT   0 recs

nice spell check

you do “realize” (correct spelling) that 16-year old “virgin” (correct spelling) outplayed your quarterback and sent your “organization” (correct spelling) home without a postseason win for the 11th straight season.

by DallascowboysTO on Oct 9, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

11:22 PM? that’s way past your bedtime.

sorry “y’all”, i know i shouldn’t fuel the fire but I couldn’t resist.

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Oct 10, 2008 6:52 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

HAH

If all you have got is commenting on my spelling then thank you for proving my point. We all know it was yalls defensive front 4 that won that game. The giants have a strong team but it is definately not because of Eli Manning. Have a great day yall catch any baseball lately so nice to not have New York teams in there.

"And if i dont do nothin ima ball" - Terrell Owens as a Dallas Cowboy

by DallascowboysTO on Oct 10, 2008 7:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Defense wins Championships

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by jrs1940 on Oct 10, 2008 8:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

baseball playoff

you’re right, it’s much more fun to watch the playoffs with the Texas Rangers involved. Oh, wait….

by cjmulrain on Oct 10, 2008 10:16 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You forgot the Astros CJ

They are on at 9 tonight, Oswalt is pitching isn’t he?

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by jrs1940 on Oct 10, 2008 11:20 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Must.........fight.......urge............

Tough…………………to…………………….hold………………………..on

Want……………..to………………………slam………………………………..Dallas fan……………………………..

“He’s crashing!!!!!”

……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

Giants fan from the womb to the tomb

by jrs1940 on Oct 10, 2008 7:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Win or loss

Lets cut the bull shit and wait till they play eachother this season. I will be back win or loss I guarantee it.

"And if i dont do nothin ima ball" - Terrell Owens as a Dallas Cowboy

by DallascowboysTO on Oct 10, 2008 7:59 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

CHARGE TO 360!!

Clear…

I’ve gotta pulse…thready though…

by mrs.jrs1940 on Oct 10, 2008 8:34 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just hold it a couple'a weeks brother

we got your back!

We're only gonna score 17 points?

by big blue wrecking crew on Oct 10, 2008 2:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

fair enough Ed :)

that’s probably for the best. I won’t respond to anything else.

by NYcON on Oct 9, 2008 11:35 PM EDT   0 recs

Seems that TO

wants to be persistent. He obviously has much bitterness and a cowboy-colored look at reality.

by ETVal on Oct 10, 2008 11:46 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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