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Eerily quiet so far this week

Am I the only one who thinks it has been kinda weird around here so far this week?

The Giants are playing Dallas this week, right? Or, can I not read the schedule?

Veteran readers of this site know where I am going with this. Here at Big Blue View we have a rather heated history of jousting with some members of Blogging the Boys, the Dallas Cowboys community here at SBN.

I know the Giants are on top right now, and we are of course happy about that. I expected some of the Cowboy faithful to come by this week and at least bring some bravado, some 'it looks bad now, but we will still come out on top' smack talk.

Shoot, I even had a 'behave yourselves when the Cowboy trolls come calling' post all written for when the ugly smack talk started.

And ... and ... and ... nothing. I have been looking for comments from Dallas faithful ... nothing. I have been checking site stats to see if we have been getting visitors from BTB ... barely any.

I hate to say it, but I'm almost disappointed.

Our old nemesis Terry did stop by and drop the following un-Terry like comment in a Fan Post.

... My Boys are a M.A.S.H unit and as long as we don’t get blown out by 3 or more TDs I’ll be happy.

I’m a homer but to think the Cowboys have a shot without Romo, F Jones, Kosier, possibly Witten, Spencer, Henry and Newman is just insane. The Giants would have to gift wrap the game to us which I seriously doubt will happen.

If you think I am trying to stir up something here, that's far from the truth. I bring this up because all of this quiet, this assumption that Dallas has no chance Sunday, scares me. I am not buying it.

I know the Cowboys are beat up and that things have not gone well for them so far this season. I know we have poked some fun at some of the problems Jerry Jones and company have experienced.

Let's be realistic, though. The Cowboys are 5-3, and still very much in the thick of the race for a playoff berth.

Tony Romo is hurt. There seems to be a tug of war between supporters of Brad Johnson and Brooks Bollinger over who should replace him. The secondary has been decimated by injuries and Pacman-itis. Now, stellar tight end Jason Witten has a fractured rib, though he seems likely to try and play.

Terrell Owens, of course, is not happy. I have an idea. Maybe Dallas should use the 'Wildcat' and snap the ball to T.O. on every play. At least then he couldn't complain that he didn't handle the ball enough.

Seriously, I don't want to poke fun at the Cowboys here. Beaten up or not, struggling or not, I still have respect for the talent on that football team.

The Cowboys are wounded, both physically with injuries and emotionally from all the distractions they have dealt with this season. Make no mistake, though, they are still very dangerous.

Owens and Roy Williams are a dynamic pair of receivers, and Witten is a great tight end.

DeMarcus Ware and Zach Thomas still lead an imposing front seven for the Cowboys on the defensive side of the ball.

The Giants should win Sunday. They are in their own building, the Cowboys are not at full strength, and this appears to be the Giants time.

Don't take a win Sunday for granted, though. I would expect the Cowboys to play like a desperate, proud team, which will make Sunday another test of will for our boys in blue.

Let's just hope Terry and friends still don't have anything to crow about come Sunday night.

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It’s only wednesday. That was my feelings on the lack of smack.

It normally starts when we start the cross-blogging posts.

by Woogie526 on Oct 29, 2008 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Giants fans

You’ll get no smack talk this week from Cowboys fans, I assure you that. Every Cowboys fan knows its going to take a miracle to win this game. Like I said, if we’re relatively competitive I’ll be happy. Brad Johnson just stinks too much for us to realistically think we can win the game.

Maybe in December we can renew the smack talk, but not this week.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 29, 2008 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

100% agree

The Cowboys will have something up their sleeve…they’re not going to come in and lie down. I would also point out that it’s sometimes better for a team under fire to go on the road (as Giants fans we know all about that).

by drunkUncle on Oct 29, 2008 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

More agreement

I think they’ll throw the kitchen sink to have a shot winning this game. On D I expect them to blitz Eli A LOT and on O I expect them to throw out some trick plays, especially with TO (end arounds & maybe a direct snap or 2). This will still be a war.

by potroast on Oct 29, 2008 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey I know.... Since Dallas fans aren't giving us the ammunition

let’s poke fun at all the Tennessee bandwagon jumpers! Seriously, I think all the guys showing up to my bar in titans’ jerseys aren’t new customers at all, they were just wearing Pats jerseys last year;)

by NYcON on Oct 29, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Now, THAT was funny!

and very likely true. heh heh heh

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Oct 29, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they probably had Colts jerseys

the year before that. (2005) – until the playoffs, that is. Immediately switched to Pittsburgh.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Oct 30, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cowgirl fans..

all ran back into the closet…..if they win another game …then they will come out!!!!!!!!!

"18-1, Write that Book"

by BigBl42 on Oct 29, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah .......weird week

I kind of enjoy telling my favorite troller what I think of his favorite player or, maybe suggesting a vacation “south of the border”. You can remember back a few years ago when our starting linebackers for the first round of the playoffs weren’t even in the NFL the week before……crummy feeling…NO SIR, I DON’T LIKE IT. So why rub it in? Still Brad Johnson won a Superbowl, didn’t he.. t.o. and R.W(the WR). are one heck of a tandem. Marion Barber…..enough said. Bavaro played well with a broken jaw so why underestimate Witten?
Ware as mentioned hasn’t forgotten how to terrorize a QB and could change the nature of a game in a single play. I’m not and I doubt the team is underestimating this still dangerous group even if certain normally delusional fans are disheartened (couldn’t resist a jab T). Can you imagine what we’ll hear if Dallas manages to pull one off? Here’s hoping for a dominant performance and maybe a Burress sighting.

We're only gonna score 17 points?

by big blue wrecking crew on Oct 29, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

go work

Everybody has injuries, we have that problems a few years ago, remember we were 6-2 and then Strahan went out, Osi was out, all the LB were out, it happens to everybody. What the cowgirls fans are doing is reverse psychology, saying out loud they are going to loose and there is no chance for them to win, but deep down they still know they have some weapons to fight back. Just like Tuck said, if they loose, they will always claim their team was not complete, if they win more to them because his team ws not complete. I just hope for a W, bad or good, I don’t care, is the cowgirls

by Bajaserge on Oct 29, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

I am a little worry like Etval that everybody is saying the cowboys will loose and all that. As matter of fact 3 weeks ago reading posts on the Browns website, everyone was sure that the Giants wil win by a big margin. it didn’t happen. but honestly we needed that “lost”, all the talk about being undefeated will do more harm than good. We can now focus on winning games. let the undeteated talk for the “mighty” Titans.
Like I said a few weeks ago, maybe in other years I would be worried, not know, this Giants teams is different, I don’t why but is different

by Bajaserge on Oct 29, 2008 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn't say

they would lose. I said despite everything the Cowboys are still dangerous.

by Ed Valentine on Oct 29, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and Ed

why not go ahead and do the “be kind to Dallas” post anyway? I could use a laugh.

We're only gonna score 17 points?

by big blue wrecking crew on Oct 29, 2008 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Well

I think I will keep that one in my back pocket. There will be an occasion to bring it out at some point, I’m sure.

by Ed Valentine on Oct 29, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

BAHH!! I don't want to hear it!

A) this is a rivalry game and the Cowboys and Giants will primarily play in fierce, closely contested games. I think this one will be a close one no matter which way it goes; especially with how well the Dallas D is playing right now.

B) I REALLY REALLY don’t want to hear another thing about how banged up the Dallas team is: “oh, everyone is hurt, its a different team, etc.” – everyone has injury problems. I just don’t want to hear a million caveats about how Dallas has injuries now. It’s part of the game, everyone fights through it – and its why you can’t sign cap killing contracts and trade multiple picks for high profile players.

by Cody K on Oct 29, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Its not so much the number of injuries

as it is the injury to Romo. If he’s playing, Cowboys fans would have entirely different attitude about winning the game.

You guys just don’t understand how awful Brad Johnson really is unless you’ve actually watched our last two games. Sure, the dude won a SB 6 years ago, but that was a long time ago. Right now, he’s an old, slow, weak armed qb who simply cannot play at an NFL level anymore. His longest pass completion last week was 14 yeads….let me repeat that…14 YARDS!!! Having T.O., RW or even a healthy Witten means absolutely nothing if you don’t have a qb that get them the ball.

To me, this anticipated loss goes on Jerry Jones, for not signing a veteran qb in preseason that is decent, like a Billy Volek, because if we have a decent backup, we could easily win the game. With Johnson, there is simply little hope.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 29, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

"we could easily win the game"??

Really?? so you are saying if Volek is the QB you could beat the Giants easily? Because I think even with Romo a “W” is not guaranteed. I agree Dallas could win, but not easily, anything could happen as the Giants beat Dallas in the playoffs last season.

by Bajaserge on Oct 29, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think

Terry is talking smack there at all. Hell, we all know the Boys are better with Romo than without him, and that Brad Johnson is showing signs of being finished. He’s ripping his own guy, not talking junk on us.

by Ed Valentine on Oct 29, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, thats not what I'm saying

I’m saying if we had a solid backup who actually can play at an NFL level, I think we’d have a much better shot at winning the game because a decent qb can at least distribute the ball to our talented wideouts, something Brad Johnson is not capable of doing.

I was in no way saying the game could be won easily, hell, the 2 games we won with Romo weren’t easy. Sorry, if you misunderstood what I was trying to say.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 29, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Terry

If you read my previous reply, I actually found myself in the odd position of defending you. I know there’s no trash talk coming from you this week.

by Ed Valentine on Oct 29, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, none whatsoever

and I promise even if devine intervention takes place in or Jerry makes some kind of deal with the devil and we somehow manage to win by some miracle, you won’t hear me chirping at all….at least until December any way. ;)

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 29, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think

you’d have to put in Bollinger at this point. Regardless of mistakes you’d have a chance with some just heaving the ball downfield to your deep threats, otherwise the advantage at WR is gone.

by queler on Oct 29, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you go over to BTB

the majority of Cowboys fans feel the same way. I can’t imagine you’d find a Cowboys fan who supports Brad at this time.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 29, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't be like Wade to use Bollinger.

He proved when he coached the Bills that he didn’t know squat about QBs when he favored Johnson over Flutie.

by george cronin on Oct 29, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Giants

win hands down. No smack talk, just real talk. We are healthier at every position, they are not. They are starting a rookie core in the secondary against our championship wideouts. Smith, Plax, Tooms, and even Boss should get their stats padded this w/e.

Our O-line just allowed ZERO sacks against Blitzburgh in their building. Our D mauled not just Big Ben, who is mobile, but the Steeler’s wide receivers. They were serviceable but when our linebackers laid the smack down, it was painful to watch. Our special teams is healthy and performing well. Feagle’s is the ultimate field placement punter, locking opp inside their 20 like clockwork.

We are just a stronger, healthier team on Sunday. Come December will be the more entertaining test. This w/e is more like a quiz.

by ProudYankee on Oct 29, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Cincinnati took them to overtime

just saying – anything can happen.

by the way, my favortie back-and-forth with Terry ever was before the start of the 2007 season. i was arguing that Tom Coughlin was a better head coach than Wade Phillips. looking back, arguing for Phillips was kinda like arguing for Ryan Leaf, no?

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Oct 29, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, Wade isn't that bad

but obviously you were correct, Coughlin is a much better coach, at least so far any way. Wade still has time to redeem himself, but he’s definitely running out of time. I think Jerry fires him after the season if things don’t turn around dramatically after the bye.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 29, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be easier for Wade if Jerry would stop

managing the team from the owners box. Jerry has put him in a very uncomfortable position.

by giant fan since 57 on Oct 29, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cincy

Also had a healthy Palmer who we destroyed, physically.

by ProudYankee on Oct 29, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

for the fans

watching that would be worse than chinese water torture.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 30, 2008 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

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