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Plax: Most talented Giants wide receiver since ... Homer Jones?

In a comment on my post Wednesday regarding Plaxico Burress, loyal reader BK0831 calls Burress "the most talented WR to play for the Giants in the last 25 years."

That comment seems to have drawn some reaction, so I went back and looked at the numbers. Not only do they prove Mr. Value Menu, er BK, right, I would go even further.

Look at the performances by Giants wide receivers going all the way back to the 1960s. You can make a case that, should Burress put up a couple more seasons equal to or better than his first two with the Giants, he could end up being the team's most dominating wide receiver since the 1960s. Homer Jones averaged more than 20 yards per catch four straight seasons from 1965-68.

Yes, that's right. He could wind up being the most dominant wide receiver in 40 years.

In an era where the pass was less prevalent than it is today, Jones never caught more than 49 balls in a season. But, he was a game-breaker who averaged 27.3 yards per catch in 1965 and 24.7 in 1967.

The Giants have not had a truly elite game-changing wide receiver since.

Earnest Gray caught 78 passes in 1983, but he was a one or two-year wonder. The Giants have had other pretty good wideouts like Lionel Manuel, Mark Ingram and Chris Calloway, but nobody with the physical ability to dominate a defensive back and change a game.

Up until now, the guy who has come the closest to being that game-breaker is Amani Toomer.

Toomer is the only Giants wide receiver to catch 70 or more passes in four consecutive seasons. He holds the team record of 82 catches in a single season.

Yet, having watched Toomer's entire 11-year career with the Giants I'd have to say I never considered him a truly elite receiver, a guy who commanded a double team and had to be game-planned for. Only three times in his career has he averaged more than 16.0 yards per catch, with his high being 16.8.

In seven seasons, Burress has averaged more than 16 yards per catch three times. He has two seasons of better than 70 catches.

He has had some brilliant moments with the Giants that make you think he has a chance to be on the Randy Moss-Terrell Owens-Chad Johnson-Marvin Harrison level as a playmaker. Yet, he still has too many moments where he looks like Tim Carter.

That frustrating inconsistency drives me, and I'm sure many other Giants fans, mad. When Burress is on his game he is as good as anybody. When he's not, he can act like a sulking, impetuous malcontent.

Burress and Jeremy Shockey lead a group of receivers that is probably the best in modern-day Giants history. With apologies to Mark Bavaro, Shockey is the best tight end the Giants have ever had.

If Toomer has anything left, and either Steve Smith or Sinorice Moss can be a reliable fourth receiver Eli Manning will have a group of receivers at his disposal as good as any in the league.

This is why Burress' willingness this off-season to, finally, come to voluntary workouts and catch passes from Eli Manning is so encouraging.

Maybe it is the first step toward Burress becoming the truly elite, game-changing wide receiver Eli needs to help him reach the top echelon of NFL quarterbacks.

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I went back only 25 years with Plax because that's how long I have been following the G-men, but I agree with your further analysis. With Shockey apparently ready to report, this team could actually be coming together. I do have to disagree about the comparison of Bavaro and Shockey. Bavaro was a devestating blocker and would have been a Hall of Fame TE had he not hurt that knee back in 1989. He would have played for the Giants into the mid 90's and projected as one of the best all around TE's ever. Shockey has wayyyy to  many drops and mental lapses to be called the best TE in Giants' history.
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by bk0831 on May 10, 2007 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

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Absolutely agree with billkohout re Shockey.  He's got a way to go to match Bavaro.  Startling difference in the two personalities, eh?

by george cronin on May 10, 2007 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

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Okay, re wide receivers, Homer "Rhino" Jones was a beast, 6'2'', 220, ran 100 yard dash in college, but you have to go a little farther to get the best wide receiver the Giants ever had, 5 time pro bowler, Del Shofner.

by george cronin on May 10, 2007 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Shofner
You are right. I was just looking for the last time the Giants had a WR this talented, not who the best one of all time was.

by Ed Valentine on May 10, 2007 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bavaro vs. Shockey
I loved Bavaro, and I agree he was tremendous. He will always have a special place in Giants history. I also agree that Shockey drops too many balls. But, go back and look at the numbers. Bavaro only caught more than 60 passes once, and never caught 70. In his 5-year career, Shockey has already caught 60+ passes FOUR times -- and I think most Giants fans would consider him under-utilized by Tom Coughlin. Shockey has 314 career catches, and should pass Bavaro's 351 this season. If you go by the numbers, you have to give the edge to Shockey.

by Ed Valentine on May 10, 2007 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Bavaro vs. Shockey
Going purely by catches, sure Shockey. But remember, he plays in an era where 4,000 yd passers are no longer uncommon. There are more balls to be caught (and I realize that isn't Shockey's fault). But as a complete TE, Bavaro was the better player. And George Cronin hits it right on the head: personality. Bavaro was focused.
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by bk0831 on May 10, 2007 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Bavaro vs Shockey
I would have argued that Bavaro was a more complete player a couple of years ago, but Shockey has become a very good blocker and is good as a receiver as Bavaro was. Also, no one works as hard as Shockey and I think he's actually very focused. I think his drops are mostly from a lack of connection with Eli and if the reports are true that he's reporting to NY next week, then we might see that resolved. I loved Bavaro, but Shockey is special too and we'll hopefully see more consistency from him very soon.

by potroast on May 10, 2007 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Lack of connection with Eli??
So when Eli hits him between the numbers and Shockey drops it, it's because of what? He has way too many drops. I've seen it year in, year out. I love the guy and his enthusiasm, but drops are always going to be part of his game. It started going all the way back to that playoff game in 2002. BTW, Bavaro was a devestating blocker, Shockey will never approach that.
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by bk0831 on May 10, 2007 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, lack of connection
In most of Shockey's drops it seems that Eli and him are not on the same page. The route, the velocity that the ball is thrown, whatever. It's like he's surprised. I realize this is just pure BS because there is no quantitative way to measure this, its just my personal opinion.

by potroast on May 10, 2007 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shockey
It's too early to say he's better than Bavaro.  We all follow the Giants intensely and have seen Shockey's infuriating tendencies, whether dropped balls on key downs, stupid penalties, missed blocks (these have gotten fewer), and you could even throw in his ridiculous statements.  

Because of these tendencies I really think he's still just bundles of potential. Bavaro maximized what he had.  Simms didn't throw a whole lot (especially during the Super Bowl years), and Bavaro made his catches count.

by mwilli on May 10, 2007 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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